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Gsync or FreeSync?

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jloor

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So I have been out of the loop for a while when it comes to GPU technology. Removing cost as a consideration, what is the best GPU and monitor combo for Gsync or Freesync?
 
It will be another month before we have monitors with freesync so it will be hard to state now which is the better performance wise. Price will be in AMD-freesync combo favor.
 
When FreeSync hits the shops and if it performs the same as GSync then it's a no brainer. Get FreeSync because nVidia will support it. They'll just call it GSync. They aren't going to pass up on using the tech in gaming laptops just to push their desktop DRM module.
 
Well the issue i see is minimum refresh rate. Assuming freesync works as well as Gsync(which is pretty well in most games) then it comes down to the monitor, I've seen Gsync monitors that go as low as 30fps holding sync so far i've only seen promoted freesync/adaptivesync monitors at 40fps floor. Not really sure monitors of equal performance will be cheaper.
 
Darakian said:
Freesync, open standards are good for everyone.
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Freesync is not an open standard. Adaptive sync is. Freesync is proprietary to AMD.

Gysnc is available and you can read plenty of independent reviews on how well it works. Freesync is still absent from the market and from reviews for some reason.

Relayer said:
When FreeSync hits the shops and if it performs the same as GSync then it's a no brainer. Get FreeSync because nVidia will support it. They'll just call it GSync. They aren't going to pass up on using the tech in gaming laptops just to push their desktop DRM module.
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Freesync won't peform the same as Gsync and NVIDIA will not support Freesync. Stop making shit up.
 
PRIME1 said:
Freesync is not an open standard. Adaptive sync is. Freesync is proprietary to AMD.

Gysnc is available and you can read plenty of independent reviews on how well it works. Freesync is still absent from the market and from reviews for some reason.



Freesync won't peform the same as Gsync and NVIDIA will not support Freesync. Stop making shit up.
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Not a great rebuttal. As far as performance between the 2, it is unknown though likely Gsync will be slightly better. And Nvidia, although a great lover of proprietary software, would have to be moronic not to support Adaptive sync being it is now a standard recognized by VESA.
 
I think its funny when you can determine who a poster is without seeing the username
 
Could have sworn that Nvidia already stated that they are going to allow GSYNC onto laptops even if there isn't a GSYNC module in it. Seems like that means they are supporting something other than GSYNC. Mixed vendor DX12 rendering is the next hurdle for Nvidia to lock down with proprietary software. Oh wait DX12 is Microsoft's baby...

:)
 
PRIME1 said:
Freesync won't peform the same as Gsync and NVIDIA will not support Freesync. Stop making shit up.
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I'm not making any shit up. You simply have a major reading comprehension problem. Is English not your first language? There were no big words in my post and you seemed to miss the smallest ones. Sometimes the details get lost in translation. Other than that, reread what I said and open your eyes this time.
 
cageymaru said:
Mixed vendor DX12 rendering is the next hurdle for Nvidia to lock down with proprietary software. Oh wait DX12 is Microsoft's baby...

:)
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They'll just lock their customers out of that feature and they will thank them for it. :D
 
Wait a year... In 2015 we will finally see gsync ips screens, and it will take some time for their price to stop being taxed with novelty.
 
Relayer said:
When FreeSync hits the shops and if it performs the same as GSync then it's a no brainer. Get FreeSync because nVidia will support it. They'll just call it GSync. They aren't going to pass up on using the tech in gaming laptops just to push their desktop DRM module.
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this. plus, open standards are better than vendor lock-out.
 
Relayer said:
When FreeSync hits the shops and if it performs the same as GSync then it's a no brainer. Get FreeSync because nVidia will support it. They'll just call it GSync. They aren't going to pass up on using the tech in gaming laptops just to push their desktop DRM module.
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And this is why tech forums suck now adays. No one regulates anything, and people like you confuse others and flat out mis inform. Please do some research first. :rolleyes:

This is one of thise Brand A vs Brand B arguements, except we have nothing but promises from Brand B. Until FS shows up and is comapred, this thread is worthless.
 
IMO, you should chose your GPU based on other factors as well, as they will probably have a bigger impact on your overall experience.

If Freesync and Gsync works equally well, then look at other factor to decide on your GPU, and invest in the corresponding monitor.

Everyone have their own reason for sticking with AMD or nVidia and it's pointless to debate on that. All I'm saying is whatever your preference are, stick to it and invest in the corresponding monitor, as we will have both in the market anyway.
 
Rav3n said:
And this is why tech forums suck now adays. No one regulates anything, and people like you confuse others and flat out mis inform. Please do some research first. :rolleyes:

This is one of thise Brand A vs Brand B arguements, except we have nothing but promises from Brand B. Until FS shows up and is comapred, this thread is worthless.
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Another person that lacks reading comprehension. Let me repost what you quoted from me and I'll highlight the important little words, ok?

Relayer said:
When FreeSync hits the shops and if it performs the same as GSync then it's a no brainer. Get FreeSync because nVidia will support it. They'll just call it GSync. They aren't going to pass up on using the tech in gaming laptops just to push their desktop DRM module.
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When and if. Now reread it and use those two words where I posted them and try to understand the statement.

Laptops are going to use eDP for Gsync. They aren't going to put in modules that use power and raise the cost and complexity unnecessarily. nVidia also isn't going to leave themselves out of consideration for people who buy DP1.2a compliant monitors because they aren't going to support the dynamic refresh capability. That would just be stoopid!

Now, this is when it's released and if it performs the same. When and if.
 
jloor said:
So I have been out of the loop for a while when it comes to GPU technology. Removing cost as a consideration, what is the best GPU and monitor combo for Gsync or Freesync?
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Impossible to say - noone reviewed any freesync monitor so far and the combo part will depend on gm200/Fiji not even annouced gpus yet.
 
Rav3n said:
And this is why tech forums suck now adays. No one regulates anything, and people like you confuse others and flat out mis inform. Please do some research first. :rolleyes:

This is one of thise Brand A vs Brand B arguements, except we have nothing but promises from Brand B. Until FS shows up and is comapred, this thread is worthless.
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Try reading more than once, you seemed to miss the --- IF --- in his statement. The rest of your statement is just too pointless...
 
Since G-sync and Freesync are basically the same thing. Freesync will become the standard, and G-sync Will be like Physx. Just a fad.

Nvidia doesn't control the Monitor industry, which is why Freesync will win. Not everyone wants to pay $100-150 more for a monitor, when another monitor can do the same thing.

Either way its going to really help move the PC gaming forward. Just like DX12 letting us mix and match Nvidia and AMD cards. Great things in the future for PC gaming!
 
They'll likely perform similarly in the best case scenario. Nice of Nvidia to get the ball rolling on variable refresh, though. Competition doesn't involve one company doing R&D and simply ceding everything to their counterparts - it's back and forth stuff like this that actually incentivizes progress.
 
kirbyrj said:
Not really...I can't find a Freesync monitor to purchase. I might not like Nvidia's move with G-sync, but I can at least buy it.
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Very true. But since Samsung, LG, Sony, Acer, etc etc etc all going to support Freesync which is "Free" and not Gsync where you pay a $100-150 premium. Which one will do you think will become the standard?
 
DASHlT said:
Very true. But since Samsung, LG, Sony, Acer, etc etc etc all going to support Freesync which is "Free" and not Gsync where you pay a $100-150 premium. Which one will do you think will become the standard?
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I agree
 
There isn't a licensing fee or extra charges for implementing it other than the fact that you need a better monitor scalar as far as I've been led to believe. Did you read something more than that? Of course monitor manufacturers are going to slap the new hot trending word on a monitor and charge more than the regular version. I'm sure that many people who live in America are familiar with the term "Capitalism."

With GSYNC you have to pay for an Nvidia module to be added to the monitor, in addition to the things I listed above for FreeSync. Having to pay for a module makes for unnecessary charges and markups on the GSYNC monitors.

What we really need is a high end, mid range, and low end FreeSync / GSYNC comparison. But of course we need some FreeSync monitors on the market first. :)
 
I'd wait for Freesync monitors to come on the market and hopefully drive the price of the G-Sync ones down a bit.

If I understand correctly, Freesync is a bit more convenient because it seems to work in all situations, even on the desktop and windowed or borderless modes. Apparently G-Sync might work on the desktop/windowed mode in Windows 10 (as someone on Geforce forums mentioned that his G-Sync display shows the red light on the desktop with that OS and latest Nvidia beta drivers for Win10).

For example the PCSX2 PS2 emulator uses borderless mode for fullscreen so G-Sync won't work there even though emulators would be one of the things that would benefit from G-Sync the most.

It remains to be seen how Freesync handles strobe backlight modes.

The G-Sync module afaik replaces the display scaler, the reason Freesync is cheaper to implement is that the scalers supporting it are built on a larger scale than Nvidia's modules. Don't know what kind of differences are caused by the Nvidia having a separate processor and RAM for the display scaler compared to the Freesync implementation.
 
I love how some members are saying GSYNC is superior when the freesync monitors haven't even come to market yet. Thread crap much? :rolleyes:


They should be hitting the shelves in less than 2 weeks. I think we need to give the technology a chance instead of automatically coming to a failure conclusion.
 
PRIME1 said:
Freesync is not free

http://techreport.com/news/26919/freesync-monitors-will-sample-next-month-start-selling-next-year

Additional hardware costs and premium charges from monitor manufactures.

I've never seen so much BS used to try and sell a product.
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What you are posting is based on questionable and outdated information. You refuse to correct your claims even in the light of new information which contradict your precious beliefs.

Here is what an actual manufacturer of monitors has to say (emphasis mine):

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I'm not sure about the other brand/models/makers... but the cost for us to enable Freesync is minimal. AMD is not charging us licensing or fees... In fact, it is just a firmware update to existing scalars so for us the cost is essentially $0.00 as long as it is performed during the assembly/manufacturing stages of production for the monitors - normally, firmware for all monitor types including non-freesync versions is installed during the manufacturing/assembly stages... So, yes - FreeSync is "Free" in that sense...
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http://www.overclock.net/t/1534242/...fe-at-2015-international-ces/70#post_23376996
 
Rvenger said:
I love how some members are saying GSYNC is superior when the freesync monitors haven't even come to market yet. Thread crap much? :rolleyes:


They should be hitting the shelves in less than 2 weeks. I think we need to give the technology a chance instead of automatically coming to a failure conclusion.
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True but most of us believe Gsync may be marginally better simply because of their manufactured scalar, but it still isn't guaranteed like you say. Even if it is, marginal is the word I would use.
 
If Free-Sync proves to work as well as G-Sync, eventually nVidia would have to relent and enable support for G-Sync on DP 1.2a monitors if they want to grab any market share from AMD, however when this will happen we may never know, but I don't think it'll happen unless FreeSync is proven to work at least as well as G-Sync. If F-Sync isn't as good as G-Sync when the monitors hit the shelves, you can expect nVidia to stick to their G-Sync for a while.

That being said, G-Sync is proven to work, and works very well. I would wait at least until the first FreeSync monitors hit the shelves first and read reviews that compares F to G before making that decision.
 
The Nvidia module is LED PWM Dimming/Flicker Free. I recall reading about Philips who tries to cut costs by making their 27" 1080p G-Sync TN use PWM (can't find the source but it was from PC Monitors whose Philips contacts claimed the Philips used PWM initially), but Nvidia refused to change their hardware. It will be interesting to see if Freesync monitors use PWM to cut costs.

PWM+G or F-Sync=Fail due to the increased blur. Consistent motion looks noticeably blurrier as well as stuttery.
 
PRIME1 said:
Freesync is not free

http://techreport.com/news/26919/freesync-monitors-will-sample-next-month-start-selling-next-year

Additional hardware costs and premium charges from monitor manufactures.

I've never seen so much BS used to try and sell a product.
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Oh so they're taking a page from Nvidia's book then right? I guess Freesync is not free the same way 3.5GB isn't 4GB on the GTX 970.

Phew, good thing these monitors haven't been released yet then... I mean, how silly of us to buy something that isn't what's promised.
 
PRIME1 said:
Why would anyone apologize for you being wrong :confused:

Now people have to wonder if AMD will abandon Freesync just like they abandoned Mantle.
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Boy ignorance galore from you, WOW. Mantle isn't abandoned, it served its purpose. AMD said months ago that if DX12 incorporated the same functions of Mantle then they gladly see Mantle fade. But they aren't abandoning it at all. They stated that any new developer that wanted Mantle 1.0 functionality would be better served going DX12. That means other existing partners would still be utilizing Mantle and further iterations. Also keeps shills (case in point) from blaming them if developers hindered DX12 incorporation by using Mantle instead(well still using DX11).
 
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