ol1bit
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No youtube, that is big!
HTPC +silicondust and place for the Vive!
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I think Google is doing the right thing here. The whole point in these devices are that they are just a simple endpoint device, it's the service you're paying for. I should be able to use a single device of my choosing to access ALL services that I pay for, instead of needing 3-4 different devices.
With the American and World Wide Public being raped and gang-banged by greedy lying Government officials working in unison and on the behalf of big businesses it's only going to get more profoundly interesting when they take away Net Neutrality.
Trust me, if Amazon could charge Youtube for fastlanes ... they absolutely fucking would. And trust me, Verizon, ATT, Comcast, etc etc will be charging Youtube and Netflix for access to their lines.
It's not going to get better it's going to get much much much worse.
I really hope all of you are signing those petitions that are all over the web. Easy to do.
Not sure if you're joking, but this has absolutely nothing to do with net neutrality. Amazon and Google have no obligation to carry each others service, but doing so would benefit the end user while expanding their target audience for their services.
Google are the good guys here. They are fighting for their services to be provided by Amazon in an equal exchange.
I bet Amazon could solve this problem overnight if they provided Prime for Google devices, didn't refuse to sell Best devices, etc. etc.
Looks like my decision to go with Roku was a good one.
What's ironic is that, apart from Home versus Echo, Google's devices don't really compete with Amazon's Fire devices. For example, Chromecast is limited in that it requires an outside device with Cast-capable apps to work properly and Google exited the low-price tablet market a long time ago. Roku's devices are actual competitors to the Fire TV devices and are actually much, much better because they're service agnostic, yet Amazon goes ahead and sells them.
When corporate ego trips have a complete two year old style meltdown....you get...this.
Honestly, every person, corporate entity, or government that has ever obtained a complete market dominance does this kind of stuff. That's why competition is so important.
Personally, I have almost completely stopped shopping at Amazon. Other than Windows 10 I will not buy a Microsoft product. I have never owned an Apple product. Other than search with Google, which I'd love to find an alternative that, you know, works, I really don't want to use Google products anymore either.
And all of my decisions about this stuff has been solely because large companies always do stuff like this. I'm sick of it.
Even Roku isn't immune to this kind of crap. The Twitch channel/app on Roku is no longer supported or available. (why? Because Amazon owns Twitch now). Something will change on Twitch at some point (probably related to streaming/codecs) that will render the Twitch channel useless on Roku for those of us with the app still loaded.
Amazon wants you to buy their streaming device.
Google wants you to buy their streaming device.
I was hoping Roku would be able to be the Swiss version of a streaming device (neutral to all), but no.
Fuck all their greedy asses to hell.
Why HTPC is the only way to go
Except they don't always have access to certain stuff either. Off the top of my head;
Sunday ticket app
Uverse app
Directv app
Netflix 4k
And I'm sure there's a few other things
Since some of you chimed in on the Roku I will 2nd and 3rd that. I have always been a huge media streamer starting with the WD Home Theater 10 years ago. Finally bought a Roku about a year ago, the Premier model and I absolutely love it. Pro tip. Get you a cheap read / write Micro SDHC memory card and put it in the Roku. Everything loads up incredibly fast. It's a good update to your Roku if haven't done so yet. Don't get cheap, you need a 90MB/s read / write card to see the difference.
My Roku handles 4K MKV's exceptionally well. Plex front-end has no problem with 3,300+ MKV's.
I do wish there was built in voice commands as well as a magic pointer to navigate Youtube faster.
When corporate ego trips have a complete two year old style meltdown....you get...this.
Honestly, every person, corporate entity, or government that has ever obtained a complete market dominance does this kind of stuff. That's why competition is so important.
Personally, I have almost completely stopped shopping at Amazon. Other than Windows 10 I will not buy a Microsoft product. I have never owned an Apple product. Other than search with Google, which I'd love to find an alternative that, you know, works, I really don't want to use Google products anymore either.
And all of my decisions about this stuff has been solely because large companies always do stuff like this. I'm sick of it.
Amazon isn't "blocking a platform" Blocking implies that they are taking an action to prohibit it. They simply aren't making a product for chromecast and are choosing not to sell google chromecast devices. On the other hand, Google is taking action by actively blocking access to Amazon devices.Yeah, there is a HUGE difference between not supporting a platform because it has all of 12 users (seriously, I have never seen anyone use or ever met anyone who owned a Windows phone) and intentionally blocking a platform because you have the market dominance in the field and want to force your competitors out.
Amazon is the one in the wrong here. Plain and simple.
There's some revisionist history. Google was hardly alone in their lack of obligation or interest to devoting time and resources into propping up Microsoft's dead platform. They saw the writing on the wall like everyone else. Nobody was ever truly interested in making windows phone apps - not even Microsoft was ever fully committed.
And when Microsoft slopped together a knockoff Youtube app - complete with the trademarked Youtube logo and that circumvented advertisements, well no shit a takedown was ordered. Just like Microsoft does when people create knockoffs of their software, or try to create hacks or workarounds to circumvent their revenue streams. Historically when Microsoft has enjoyed the dominant position they've acted the same or worse.
Well the dead can't keep douching. So its just Bezos now.Amazon totally at fault here. Bezos is a giant egotistical douchebag. Only person who was a bigger ego douche was Jobs.