good-bye vista

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It's funny how many people feel this way, and don't bother to actually try out the OS to see for themselves.

I read a few comments that most people who bash Vista have never used it or given it a real trial. The more threads I read, the more I'm starting to believe that.

Instead of giving an actual fact or a point to stay with XP, it's just a regurgitated Vista bash.

I use Vista at home and XP at work. I spend most of my work day staring at an IDE, web browser, Photoshop, and email. At home I play games, write code, and surf the web. Maybe it's just me, but there really is nothing I can do in Vista that I couldn't do just as easily in XP.

My opinion is that Vista isn't anywhere near as horrible as some people would make it out to be, but on the other hand, it doesn't blow my socks off either. I could live with or without it myself.
 
It's funny how many people feel this way, and don't bother to actually try out the OS to see for themselves.
I read a few comments that most people who bash Vista have never used it or given it a real trial. The more threads I read, the more I'm starting to believe that.

I had troubles with vista, so I bought another 2GB of RAM. They went away.

I've been using Vista with only minor inconveniences for the last 3-4 months now. Peachy.

I can't use my Zen Touch though. I had to install that annoying Alchemy program (extra steps). My sound glitches out (probably drivers on creative's side or something).

What have I gained? NOthing. Vista works, but the benefits are non-existent. At this time there is no decent reason for me to take the time to re-install vista. (HD-Crash). So I'll just use my trusty XP which works with everything (including the Zen), and wait until I really want those DX10 bonuses.
 

That was just a great post, from start to finish. Not abusive towards Vista, but he readily pointed out some of the issues he's had, a solution or two that he found worked, as well as an issue or two that remains unresolved (the Zen thing and the sound and you said Creative so there ya go, on both counts) which aren't the direct fault of Vista itself.

Good job...
 
It's funny how many people feel this way, and don't bother to actually try out the OS to see for themselves.

I read a few comments that most people who bash Vista have never used it or given it a real trial. The more threads I read, the more I'm starting to believe that.

Instead of giving an actual fact or a point to stay with XP, it's just a regurgitated Vista bash. That actually sounds like fine...let me try.

Strawberry ice cream sucks, gives you nothing over vanilla or chocolate, and it is made by the devil!!!!! People who eat strawberry ice cream are fools!

I was wrong...that wasn't fun.

you own a kindle by any chance?

We could argue about the benifits (or lack there of) of vista over XP till the cows come home, but you guys dont think vista is substantially more secure? Everyone on this forum is probably pretty good at this point at avoiding virus's, but for the average user that clicks on those porn links and goes to those malicious websites, I think s/he stands a much better chance of leaving it with non MBR infected system if s/he's on vista, especially if its not an admin acount.

But hey what do I know, I listen to Paul Thurotts netcast.

HAH! one more thing, Since I've got all you suckers in this thread cornered, how many of you guys actually use Flip 3D? I do, useful for getting out of games.
 
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I use Vista at home and XP at work. I spend most of my work day staring at an IDE, web browser, Photoshop, and email. At home I play games, write code, and surf the web. Maybe it's just me, but there really is nothing I can do in Vista that I couldn't do just as easily in XP.

My opinion is that Vista isn't anywhere near as horrible as some people would make it out to be, but on the other hand, it doesn't blow my socks off either. I could live with or without it myself.

Yeah, I mostly agree with that (I think Vista is slightly better - mostly from small things, like Start Menu search). The question "Should I get Vista?" has two different answers depending on what the question really is, I'd say:
  • Should I upgrade to Vista from XP? - Almost certainly not, Vista doesn't offer a compelling reason to upgrade.
  • Should I get Vista or XP on a new machine? - Get Vista, it's slightly better than XP. Ideally Vista x64. (Exception is if you have an essential badly-behaved program that won't run under Vista.)
 
That was just a great post, from start to finish. Not abusive towards Vista, but he readily pointed out some of the issues he's had, a solution or two that he found worked, as well as an issue or two that remains unresolved (the Zen thing and the sound and you said Creative so there ya go, on both counts) which aren't the direct fault of Vista itself.

Good job...
Absolutely, and I agree 100%. No one is trying to say VIsta is without issues. That wouldn't be possible considering the myriad of hardware and software combinations available to us.

What "really grinds my gears" is when someone just blindly bashes any product without following up with anything useful. Not only is that ignorant, but it provides nothing beneficial to anyone reading the thread. Here's an example:

What if I was just glancing through the thread, and I noticed Canadian in Berlin and his mention of a Creative Zen Touch. What if I had one of those as well, and had been struggling to get it working? I could reply or send him a PM to get some info. Many of us deal with many of the same issues, so sharing information and solutions can be beneficial. Ranting and raving with no substance doesn't help anyone, anywhere in here or in the real life world.
 
What "really grinds my gears" is when someone just blindly bashes any product without following up with anything useful. Not only is that ignorant, but it provides nothing beneficial to anyone reading the thread.

I finished my new rig earlier this week. Never used Vista before, and have been very happy with XP over the last 4 or 5 years. When I started planning the new build, I just assumed I'd stick with XP. Literally every other discussion I'd seen of it was an OP mentioning that they're thinking about, or running, Vista, followed by 20 follow-ups of "That's your problem there, you're running that garbage," "LOL Vista," "You'd have to be an idiot to run that garbage from M$, only a n00b wouldn't pick XP" and so on, and so on.

Then I came back here, and did a lot of reading. Lo and behold, actual information. I decided to try Vista x64, mostly because I figured it would be less of a headache to start with Vista on the ground floor, rather than give in and switch over from XP 2 years down the line.

So far anyway, I'm glad I did. There's a learning curve, and some of the features are annoying, but I'm amazed at the difference between the hyperbole and the reality. If anything, I'm having less trouble with this system than I did with XP when that first came out. I still like XP and am not a Vista fanboi by any stretch of the imagination, but if the conventional wisdom about Vista isn't a textbook case of FUD-mongering, I don't know what is....

Or, like a PP said, "Anyone who buys CHOCOLATE ice cream instead of vanilla is an IDIOT lol!!1!"
 
What "really grinds my gears" is when someone just blindly bashes any product without following up with anything useful.

What grinds mine is how we're not as [H] as we used to be. We used to wallow in broken software, find tricks and fixes and provide help to those outside of HardOCP. We would be the forum to go to if someone had problems. I still do for the most part, but you see more and more "I quit" posts than posts where someone figure something out anymore.

[H] used to mean bleeding edge whether it be Windows or Linux. [H] used to mean hardcore, brains and savviness.

I guess it's easier to get out of the kitchen when the heat gets too hot.
 
That's how it was in my lurker days. People who'd post ridiculous crap or inflammatory remakes usually weren't posting for very long. The majority of info was very useful, and even the disagreements seemed to be civil, with some great debates. I learned so much just reading through the various threads and sections.
 
Cause people keep responding with fairly meaningly posts......oops.

(that is the mods cue to lock this)
The first post was very useless... In fact, I don't know why I even clicked here. I think I did on accident, truth be told.
 
Oh, that's cute, blame the user. Just like all the other Microsoft fanboys do. Honestly, use whatever you want, I could not care less.

lol only a retard would come in here and post what the OP did, are you retarded?

prolly a driver issue. or could be a lack of clean stable power to the system.
 
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