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Gaming/streaming build

dotjd

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The purpose of this rig is fairly exclusively for gaming and streaming. I also do some really light photoshop work and video transcoding, but not for work and I'm satisfied with the performance of the former on my current laptop, so w/e. Explosions are the demanding thing.

I've about hit my budget with the current list. I can go maybe $100-$200 over before taxes/shipping but not without a really good reason (and I'm thinking I overbuilt and need to trim fat, so good luck with that). Location is St. Petersburg, FL. No microcenters anywhere nearby, sorry. I already checked.

The parts that I'm considering are here: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ii1H
If it's not on the list, I don't need it (with the possible exception of thermal paste? what's a good brand nowadays? Last time I was in the market was 2000, and I forgot to research it until, well, now). re: gpu stuff, my current monitor is this. 1680x1050, 22inch. Main reason I'm going for a 660 ti is for the borderlands 2 promo code; if that happens to end between now and mid-late october when I plan to order all this, I'll drop down to a 660.

I will be overclocking only the 3750K. Looking to hit an easy overclock of 4.0/4.3 without increasing the voltage and thus keeping temps pretty low. Want to have a really good cpu so that I can game and stream simultaneously. I'm also hoping this rig lasts at least 5 years with very few changes.

Lingering questions:
-Is that power supply sufficient? pcpartpicker says the est. wattage is 339 and the supply is rated for 450 but I'm not sure how much I trust either of those numbers. I may also drop in a sound card and fill another pci-e slot later, if that matters. I won't ever use xfire/sli or put in a more expensive video card.

-Is there a cheaper motherboard that has wifi built-in? Aside from sata6gbps/usb3 and spare slots for future expansion that's really my only requirement. Right now it looks like I won't be able to get an ethernet jack in the room the computer will be in. If a miracle happens, I'll probably go with an asrock extreme4 instead.

-What 1.5/2tb harddrives have decent write speeds? I wasn't able to find many good & recent spinning platter harddrive roundups. Going from the tom's hardware roundup this 2tb barracuda is near the top of the pack, but it has the slight problem of only having a 1 year warranty. May eventually want to record the stuff I stream, hence the worry.

-Where are good places to check for deals and promotions and stuff? This is more expensive than I thought it would be, but any place I see where I could cut prices I'd also end up cutting functionality. If games weren't 20 gigs nowadays I'd be more enthusiastic about going down to a 128gig ssd instead...

If you could give the list a once-over, it'd be greatly appreciated. thanks!
 
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What's the likelihood of you being able to buy in the next seven days?

To answer your questions:
- That PSU is sufficient but IMO a tad overpriced since you can get a larger PSU for less:
$57 - Antec NEO ECO 520C 520W PSU

- From what you've said so far, that mobo you chose is a bit overkill. You'll be fine with this mobo and wifi combo:
$150 - Asus P8Z77-V LK Intel Z77 ATX Motherboard
$30 - Asus PCE-N15 Wireless Adapter

- The Samsung F3 1TB is a fast drive

- Slickdeals and Gotapex are good sites to check.

Also the case you chose is out of stock at that price. If you want that case, it's gonna cost you $50 more.
 
What's the likelihood of you being able to buy in the next seven days?

None whatsoever, unfortunately. I figure you're asking because a bunch of sales are about to end? Yeah, I'm resigned to a bunch of the prices changing and having to go through and recheck everything later.

- That PSU is sufficient but IMO a tad overpriced since you can get a larger PSU for less:

I'm hoping I can save enough in lower electricity over the years that a small premium is worth it (in addition to having less heat exhausted into the case), but thanks.

- The Samsung F3 1TB is a fast drive

updated

Asus PCE-N15 Wireless Adapter

Looks like, from my very preliminary google search, it would probably do a better job than a built-in wireless? If so, then that's fine with me. There were a couple motherboards I saw that looked good aside from the wireless, so I'll just go through later and pick the cheapest one.
 
None whatsoever, unfortunately. I figure you're asking because a bunch of sales are about to end?
Yes, you'll be missing out on Newegg's September combo deals. However there is Newegg's October combo deals but we won't know until October 2-3 what those will be. So in that case, to save yourself the trouble of going back and rechecking everything, just come back when you're 1-2 weeks away from buying the entire PC and ask for advice then. Less work on your part, less work on our part, and you get an up-to-date build list.

I'm hoping I can save enough in lower electricity over the years that a small premium is worth it (in addition to having less heat exhausted into the case), but thanks.
Honestly, it's not something you really should worry about:
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/10/04/80_plus_irrelevant_to_you_when_buying_psu/

If you still want modular, a larger amperage Seasonic is only $3 more than the Rosewill:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151093

Looks like, from my very preliminary google search, it would probably do a better job than a built-in wireless? If so, then that's fine with me. There were a couple motherboards I saw that looked good aside from the wireless, so I'll just go through later and pick the cheapest one.
Correct. Not to mention that if the wifi card dies, you can easily replace it without having send in your motherboard.
 
and I'm back. Looking to order within the week. updated list here: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/kabI

Just double-checking here to be sure I'm not missing any good deals, and to ask a couple more questions.

Saw a deal for the ocz agility 4 256gb for $159, but what's the word on its reliability? on one hand, it's ocz. on the other, it's not sandforce...

considered upping the power supply to 550 but figured I'd ask here first. If, in a few years, the tech fairy works its magic and decent 120hz 2560x1440 monitors appear on the market, will 450W handle a card that can run two of those hypothetical beasts at once? I'm assuming gfx card power targets aren't going to change much over the next few years, since people now seem to care about lowering consumption. So whatever new graphics card I'd have to buy, maybe it'd draw as much juice as a gtx670/680, maximum? I don't know, I'm musing here. Maybe I should bump it up to the 550W for the extra $10, since iirc power supplies also degrade over time...

re: the 80 plus stuff. Went through and read it. Quick and dirty summary is, there's no controls to check if a manufacturer is 'cheating' with substandard parts at retail, and it would take years to make the investment back anyhow. Both conclusions seem reasonable.

Alright, why don't I go ahead and read some independent reviews and see how the unit fares that way? oh right, they're all based on manufacturer samples. hmm. Don't think the 80+ certification is the only thing I'd have to worry about.

In the end, I figured I'd pay a $5 premium for the privilege of possibly being naive. I do plan on using this power supply for years. Gonna have to depend on someone's honesty at some point along the line. And the reviews were pretty good, all things considered.
 
Saw a deal for the ocz agility 4 256gb for $159, but what's the word on its reliability? on one hand, it's ocz. on the other, it's not sandforce...
That drive is relatively new. So not enough time has passed to determine whether or not that it's really reliable. With that said, as of right now, it has a 3 out of 5 star rating on Newegg. For $180 (still $180 since you haven't recieved the rebate yet), that's not good at all since the more reliable Samsung 830 and Crucial M4 256GB SSDs are like $10 to $20 more. Well worth the extra costs for confirmed high reliability.
If, in a few years, the tech fairy works its magic and decent 120hz 2560x1440 monitors appear on the market, will 450W handle a card that can run two of those hypothetical beasts at once?
If it's just powering those monitors and not actually gaming on both montiors, you can do that now with current GPUs and a good 450W PSU.
Maybe I should bump it up to the 550W for the extra $10, since iirc power supplies also degrade over time...
Only with low quality PSUs. Good quality PSUs don't show an noticeable decline in power output over time. With that said, it's only $10 more.
Alright, why don't I go ahead and read some independent reviews and see how the unit fares that way? oh right, they're all based on manufacturer samples. hmm. Don't think the 80+ certification is the only thing I'd have to worry about..
Actually not really. Some proper PSU reviews sites actually go out and buy PSUs for testing. Not to mention that any half-decent PSU review site will actually take apart the PSU and instantly notice certain out of the ordinary parts that wouldn't normally show up in an actual PSU. For reference, by proper PSU review sites, it's pretty much any of the PSU review sites listed in this page:
http://www.overclock.net/t/738097/psu-review-database
 
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