kirbyrj
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Last time I checked, you don't need video games to drink excessively and ignore your family. It's not a video game that makes you do it. It's the choices you make as a person.
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Is anyone gonna READ THE WHOLE DAMN TOPIC instead of just the first post?
Because then you'll find it's a fake study, and you don't need to waste your time.
Agreed, the study needs to be conducted again with better sampling methods and a larger, more diverse sampling of young men. Surprisingly research is done in iterations, and this may be the first.
The study did point out correlation, but the researcher pointed out that the cause and effect relationship is still unclear.
The point of doing these studies is to better understand a new and growing facet of people's lives. Similar studies were done when television came out...
our reaction simply fuels people's beliefs that we're anti social because we can't discuss these kinds of topics without saying things like, "Fuck them, they're fucking Mormons."
Are we in agreement that playing WoW or other games to the point of skipping classes, skipping work, getting divorced, etc. is a bad thing?
games do have some negatives as well and the sooner we admit that the sooner we can find solutions for people who do suffer from those negatives.
Did anyone read their honor code?
People at BYU are not permitted to drink alchol, yet this study says their own students are more likely to drink the alchol they... don't drink.
Is anyone gonna READ THE WHOLE DAMN TOPIC instead of just the first post?
Because then you'll find it's a fake study, and you don't need to waste your time.
i agree with you, along the track of agreeance whereby smokers, overeating gluttons, drug abusers (im not talking recreation, im talking junkies, and yes alcohol counts here too), the excessively promiscuous, and countless others subconsciously or otherwise pursue some sort of reward system, or should i say.. alternative to reality, due to some discomfort/displeasure/gaping life-fulfillment maw in order to temporarily satiate themselves. taking part in any obsessively indulgent behavior is the problem. this, um, what i will laughably continue to refer to as a "study", is attempting to pin the blame on a symptom, a manifestation of a much less obvious internalized problem. therein lies my issue, and everyone elses, as far as i can tell.. regardless of the varying eloquency of conveyance.
just FYI, the 'code' of attending BYU, which extends to non-mormon students only includes the campus, people are free to dress/drink/smoke etc however they choose when away from the university campus.
Is anyone gonna READ THE WHOLE DAMN TOPIC instead of just the first post?
Because then you'll find it's a fake study, and you don't need to waste your time.
i dont think you're helping our cause here....
Why are they playing N64 apparently hooked up to a OLD ASS Apple LCD?
Anyone else notice that they're playing Nintendo 64? Probably why they're drinking so much cuz they can't afford Xbox360.
See, this is the type of reply I wrote about in my post above. Our community tends to attack the researchers. You do have a good point about sample size and sampling methods however, but why do you have to throw stuff in there that isn't at all related to the topic (Tom Hanks comment)?
Because it appears that this study and the researchers behind it obviously set out to attacking gaming in the first place - therefore the defensive reaction. From all appearanes, it was not a disinterested, objective study but rather appeared to have had prejudiced intentions regarding its outcome. Read the statements by the researchers and how absolutely stated they are and this becomes obvious.
If this study was conducted by another institution I could have possibly interpreted the outcomes more appropriatedly. A study that finds an extremely powerful correlation between playing video games with alcohol consumption and drug use from an institution who's basic religious tenets and principles are expressly against alcohol use is dubious at best.
For the record, Walker did not stand in the way of her familys wish for a Nintendo Wii. Jensen had hoped to find some positive results as justification for playing Madden NFL.
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But the researchers say video games do not themselves mean game over for a relationship because the connection they found is modest.
Relationship quality is one of a cluster of things that we found to be modestly associated with video games, Walker said. The most striking part is that everything we found clustered around video game use is negative.
The purpose of this study was to gain a clearer understanding of the pattern of video game and internet use among college students and to examine how electronic leisure was related to risk behaviors (i.e., drinking, drug use, sex), perceptions of the self (i.e., self worth and social acceptance), and relationships with others (i.e., relationship quality with parents and friends). Participants included 813 undergraduate students (500 young women, 313 young men, M age = 20, SD = 1.87) who were mainly European American (79%), unmarried (100%) and living outside their parents home (90%). Results suggested that (a) video game use was linked to negative outcomes for men and women, (b) different patterns of video game and internet use existed for men and women and (c) there were different relations to risk behaviors, feelings about the self, and relationship quality based on the type of internet use, and based on gender. The discussion focuses on the implications of electronic leisure on the overall health and development of young people as they transition to adulthood.
Anyone else notice that they're playing Nintendo 64? Probably why they're drinking so much cuz they can't afford Xbox360.
More importantly, they are playing Nintendo 64 with an iMac monitor.