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Gainward is crap...?!

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BakedGoods

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I'm looking at getting the Gainward Golden Sample 6800 128MB card. Does anyone already own this card? What are the stock clock speeds? Is the ram really 2.2ns with the dual-slot card? Does the fan do a better job of cooling then the reference coolers? What kind of software bundle does it offer?!! I can't seem to find a review for this card...

Thanks for any info you can offer!
 
Gainward is one of those companies that rushes to put out something a little different than everyone else and as a consequence (like mentioned above) their early cards tend to have problems. They made what was widely considered the best GF3 but then dropped the ball with their early GF4 models. Personally I would stick with the companies using the reference pcb/hsf units until the kinks get worked out.
 
Yeah good point. I'm really curious about the ram though, if it is indeed 2.2ns DDR1 then I'll have to go for it ;)
 
what exactly were the problems with the GF4 Ti series from gainward? My brother is running the 4x agp 128meg card and its been great for him, along with 2 of my friends that bought them when they first came out and they've been fine too. I've heard rumors of gainward not being great lately with the new 6800 series out, so was quality bad or what?
 
I'm running the Gainward Ti4600 card and it's decent. I can over it over fraction clock on both memory and GPU and it works fine.
 
Imitation said:
what exactly were the problems with the GF4 Ti series from gainward? My brother is running the 4x agp 128meg card and its been great for him, along with 2 of my friends that bought them when they first came out and they've been fine too. I've heard rumors of gainward not being great lately with the new 6800 series out, so was quality bad or what?
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I had a problem with my ti4600 and it's memory, it gave me pink lines and everything was fucked up on it. It was not a software problem as the bios would do it too. I remember one putting my computer in suspend, (this was after I just had it rma'd) came home about an hour later and the screen was jacked and the computer froze. The compute wouldn't start up.. it was the card, again. Sometimes it would work too and it REALLY pissed me off. I had to RMA 3 times, none of those worked so I ended up just throwing my 350 dollar card in the garbage. I was just angry. Anyway the ti4200's suffered the Pink Screen of Death if I remember correctly. Which was just bad ram. The death rate of those was just ridiculous. I did however have a gainward ti200 that overclocked to 270/560 from 175/400 and it was very stable. I still have this card sitting in the box :)
 
BakedGoods said:
I'm looking at getting the Gainward Golden Sample 6800 128MB card. Does anyone already own this card? What are the stock clock speeds? Is the ram really 2.2ns with the dual-slot card? Does the fan do a better job of cooling then the reference coolers? What kind of software bundle does it offer?!! I can't seem to find a review for this card...

Thanks for any info you can offer!
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I have this card but am selling it. The reason being that it's huge and doesn't fit on my mobo. It performs quite well however. Stock speeds are 350/700, it will do 400/800 easy, Gainward guarantees it. The fans also have red LEDs on them, kinda cool.
 
Sanitarium said:
I have this card but am selling it. The reason being that it's huge and doesn't fit on my mobo. It performs quite well however. Stock speeds are 350/700, it will do 400/800 easy, Gainward guarantees it. The fans also have red LEDs on them, kinda cool.
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Sell your card to baked.. what a coincidence. heh
 
UltimaParadox said:
I won't buy a Gainward after the Ti4200 problems
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then you're an idiot. MSI's products catch on fire and there are tons of other vendors with shitty products, and you wont buy a gainward because of a few batches of bad cards. you are not a computer enthusiast, go collect beanie babies. that statement really infuriates me if you havent noticed.

i own the 2 slot gainward card, and my memory OC goes up to 900-910 stable depending on what speed my case fans are on. if you can find 2.5ns ram that does 910 mem ill give you a present.

the one slot version DOES have 2.5ns, and some of the 2 slot designs use 2.5ns and some us 2.2ns, its reported that the earlier 2-slot ones had 2.2ns, and mine performs like it does. when i get my nv silencer next week ill take pics, if my webserver ever gets recovered
 
Dillusion said:
then you're an idiot. MSI's products catch on fire and there are tons of other vendors with shitty products, and you wont buy a gainward because of a few batches of bad cards. you are not a computer enthusiast, go collect beanie babies. that statement really infuriates me if you havent noticed.
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Nice flame, maybe I should specifiy the ti4200 problems also showed their poor customer service. Considering I had to RMA 3 times, and some of them took up to a month to get one back.

Bad Customer Service once is enough for me never to buy from a company again.
 
im aware of what i said, i was mad :D . i also can go down the list of gainwards problems....wrong bios on 6800U, advertised 1.6ns on the GT and got 2.0 ...etc etc, you didnt specify why, and now you did.

thats good.

gotta take a #2.

bye.
 
Imitation said:
what exactly were the problems with the GF4 Ti series from gainward? My brother is running the 4x agp 128meg card and its been great for him, along with 2 of my friends that bought them when they first came out and they've been fine too. I've heard rumors of gainward not being great lately with the new 6800 series out, so was quality bad or what?
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It was a ram problem I believe...it was actually so widespread that it made the front page of the [H] if I remember correctly. I remember being disappointed because I had a gainward GF3 Ti500 that I loved very much but when I upgraded to GF4 I went with Leadtek instead.
 
I have had a ti4200 128 meg golden sample card from gainward for ages now, since they came out, and i have not had 1 single problem with it. It has overclocked to almost 4600 speeds since i have had it, and still runs great today.

This is why the ultra/2100 will be my next vid card.
 
Schmiggy_JK23 said:
I have had a ti4200 128 meg golden sample card from gainward for ages now, since they came out, and i have not had 1 single problem with it. It has overclocked to almost 4600 speeds since i have had it, and still runs great today.

This is why the ultra/2100 will be my next vid card.
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If every card they made had a problem they would be out of business by now. :p There were enough people having the same problem that it stirred up the intarweb community pretty good back then though..
 
I remember that, however it wasnt like it was the "firestone tires" of the video card market. And for the most part, their cards run near the top performance wise vs others oems.
 
Gainward makes high quality cards that have great OCs. I list them as # 2, right behind BFG, only because of BFG's true lifetime warranty.

The problem cards that came out from them several years back were just a few batches, far less than the majority of ti4200 cards, and it was because of bad memory modules that they recieved. Once the problem was discovered, they made things right, then continued on making great video cards.
 
UltimaParadox said:
Nice flame, maybe I should specifiy the ti4200 problems also showed their poor customer service. Considering I had to RMA 3 times, and some of them took up to a month to get one back.

Bad Customer Service once is enough for me never to buy from a company again.
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i had great customer service from them. i sent an email and said that i was getting a pink screen, and they issued an RMA right away. sent in my card, got a new one back in a week. no problems whatsoever

btw, i don't care how mad any of you are, calling someone an idiot is not acceptable
 
fugu said:
i had great customer service from them. i sent an email and said that i was getting a pink screen, and they issued an RMA right away. sent in my card, got a new one back in a week. no problems whatsoever
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I guess the whole experience was just a sour one for me, but one of the cards was upwards to a month before I recieved its replacement, and a month is a long time without a video card.

I did edit my above post, my apologies for not specifying what exactly I had the problem with. But it will keep me from owning another Gainward.
 
theelviscerator said:
With that logic you wont buy nvidia either after the 5800 problems.
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The irony is that I own a 5800U, and it has had no problems what so ever. But I did edit my orignial post explained exactly why I will not own a gainward card
 
Okay, question: Is the fan really loud and annoying?
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Baked you should specify if u're talking the single sloter or the double, cause the HSF units are way different. I would guess neither are dustbuster loud tho.
 
I just ordered the Gainward 6800 GT, I hope it's not crap. I don't plan to overclock it for awhile. I guess I'll check up on everyone's opinions on oc'ing it before I venture there. Does anyone have the Gainward 6800 GT, if so how do you like it. I'm gonna be running it with a 64 3200 and a gig of ram. I think it should run great.

~Jay
 
UltimaParadox said:
The irony is that I own a 5800U, and it has had no problems what so ever. But I did edit my orignial post explained exactly why I will not own a gainward card
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I may have my numbers mixed up...is that the card with the dustbuster that basically was disco right as it came out?

My friend had one..never ran right(couldnt beat our 9800 pros) and then crapped out...

Pny i think it was...
 
the fan isnt very loud, maybe like 26-28 dba, theres a slight whine but its slowly fading away day by day, breaking in of the fans i guess....
 
theelviscerator said:
I may have my numbers mixed up...is that the card with the dustbuster that basically was disco right as it came out?

My friend had one..never ran right(couldnt beat our 9800 pros) and then crapped out...

Pny i think it was...
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Yep it is the dustbuster that was discontinued before release. Only a few of the preorders trickled out. Mine is a bfg.
 
Dillusion said:
the fan isnt very loud, maybe like 26-28 dba, theres a slight whine but its slowly fading away day by day, breaking in of the fans i guess....
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Ah okay, Imitation is right I should have specified what slot. Is this the dual-slot one you're talking about?
 
BakedGoods said:
Anyone know of any reviews out for the 6800 128mb Gainward?
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Sorry dude, can't help ya out there....haven't really been looking.

On a side note, I got my refund cheque back from NCIX today and as long as Compusmart does get their shipment in this Friday (a couple days from now) I'll be coming home Saturday afternoon with a brand new BFG Tech 6800GT OC to play with. :p :cool: I was surprised to see them in their flyer today.....and seeing as high end video cards are such a small market here in Saskatoon I was actually the first one to have my name down for one.

I'll be sure to have updates up for everyone who has been waiting for my ridiculously indepth Doom3 analysis tests I promised I'd be doing with my new card. ;) :D
 
While we're on this fan issue, with the double fan model, do you think the fan throttling is different for the NU to the GT? I doubt it would be but you never know, since the GT runs higher clocks most of the time. I'm seriously looking at the double slot cause it looks so freaking sweet, imo, but I definitely don't have the 300 or 400+ to blow right now. Too bad the gainward game bundle is non existent for the most part in their boxes. Oh well I'd rather have a sweet looking card that OC well than some of the bundled games that other cards have, unless its far cry, i don't have that one yet.

Oh and baked, glad you see it my way :D
 
Imitation said:
Oh well I'd rather have a sweet looking card that OC well than some of the bundled games that other cards have
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This is exactly how I look at it......unless I REALLY want a certain game I'd rather have an extremely vanilla type package to save myself the cash on the card.

I dont see why the NU would have a different fan throttling setup then the GT or otherwise.....as all cards do heat up, the throttling would most likely just be scaled down to accomodate the relative temperatures that people will be seeing with the lower clocked NU's.
 
BakedGoods said:
Ah okay, Imitation is right I should have specified what slot. Is this the dual-slot one you're talking about?
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i have the 2 slt on, remember
 
cornelious0_0 said:
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I'll be sure to have updates up for everyone who has been waiting for my ridiculously indepth Doom3 analysis tests I promised I'd be doing with my new card. ;) :D
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Looking forward that.
 
UltimaParadox said:
Yep it is the dustbuster that was discontinued before release. Only a few of the preorders trickled out. Mine is a bfg.
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I saw a new one at BB yesterday for 399, An asylum 5800 ultra is that the card?
 
I contacted Gainward about the RAM:

Gainward said:
The official spec. for our Ultra/2100 model is with 2.5ns DDR. In some production batches we might use better speed chip depending on our factory part inventory situation. But 2.5ns is the minimum spec. we do keep for this model.
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So there we have it, 2.5ns RAM even on the dual-slotted :)
 
BakedGoods said:
I contacted Gainward about the RAM:



So there we have it, 2.5ns RAM even on the dual-slotted :)
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At last some clarity on the subject heh? :p

It's not so much that the facts haven't been there for us, just that there are often so many other people that think they're right or who are siding with (certain unnamed) less credible sources for information. Whichever way you want to look at it, this shows that its best to go right to the source for things like that. Gainward and other companies do actually listen to their customers guys, they want to know what we think on a regular basis.....shoot 'em an email if you've got a general question about a card. If the product is available retail then they should have no problem doing a quick Q&A with ya.
 
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