Fury X Overclocking

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  1. Dayaks

    Dayaks [H]ardness Supreme

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    What's the best program for OCing the Fury X? I'd like to downclock and undervolt it... It's too hot for my liking.
     
  2. plexx

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    too hot? are you not using the reference liquid cooled?

    My Fury X is running cooler than any GPU i have ever owned.
     
  3. Dayaks

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    Have you touched the side of it after extended use? It burns me when I touch it which takes at least 160F. Maybe I'll just take the cover off...

    I can thermocouple it tomorrow.

    It's just used for 1080p so I wouldn't mind down clocking and under volting.
     
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  4. kcthebrewer

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    Do you randomly put your hand on a stove top after cooking something?

    It is completely normal for video cards to go over 80 degrees Celsius as the whole card is not being actively cooled.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-r9-fury-x,4196-8.html shows up to 90 Celsius when being stress tested.
     
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  5. Dayaks

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    Trust me I understand thermals, composites and electronics. I want the pump to last years. I'm not necessarily worried about the VRMs (which are actively cooled). If I don't need all that power quite yet it makes sense to down clock it and perhaps set a custom fan curve that keeps it a little cooler.

    I was just curious if there's a preferred program for Fury X, that's all. I guess I'll try afterburner for shits and giggles tomorrow.
     
  6. shad0w4life

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    Use frame rate limiter, it should keep it running cooler
     
  7. Dayaks

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    Yeah I'll just do that. It's my parents and that's easier (no stability issues). :D
     
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    Came here with hopes of news that voltage was unlocked for Fury X.....leaving disappointed 😣
     
  9. Rizen

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    Dude, why? The card has a warranty for a reason. If you paid $650 for a high end video card to complain that it runs hot you are lighting money on fire. Do research before you buy next time.
     
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    This, ffs... :mad:
     
  11. Dayaks

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    Review sites were conflicting on temp. Warranty only lasts so long and RMA isn't a fun process.
     
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    couple of weeks to go before unwinder have the tool out.
     
  13. Rizen

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    What review sites showed the card running anything but very cool?

    I ran two 290X video cards at 95C for 2 years and didn't have a problem. High temps are not an issue with modern video card design. If you are thinking this is a problem because of all the issues people had with cards from around 2006-2009 this was due to the change away from lead-based solder for environmental reasons (and why baking the cards to reflow the traces worked to fix them). That has not been a problem in a long time.
     
  14. Dayaks

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    [​IMG]

    For one. There's other sites.

    Overclock

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    Really, I own the card, I know it's not at 40C like some of those sites show. Watercooling components generally don't like above 50-60C. The lower the better. I'd like it to last 3-5 years.

    I came here wondering what the best program to manipulate the thing was which I do to every card I own. I don't mind running a fan 10% faster if it lowers the temp. I did the same to my nVidia cards. Avoids throttling as well.
     
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  15. AndrewK78

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    He wants to down clock and and under volt his card. Seriously why are people caring what he wants to do?
     
  16. cageymaru

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    Dayaks how much faster in games is the Fury X compared to whatever you owned before?
     
  17. Dayaks

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    Well... I have a machine at home which is a 5960x/Titan X.

    This machine was a 3258/270x. I upgraded it to a 4690k/Fury X when the original machine started acting up. It's my parents machine which my kids play at 1080p... my main goal is stability. I'd rather run it 10% slower (or 10% faster on the fan). I like to have some headroom for stability if dust builds up, ect. The idea of an AIO on the processor and AIO on the GPU was attractive to me. Was pretty sexy in a 250d build.

    Since I don't actually play it I couldn't say how much faster it is. Compared to a 270x it's a big jump of course. It handles Batman Arkham Knight maxed out fine. Other games include Minecraft, Legos, Sims 4 and Battlefield 4. :) Trying to get my 60 year old father into World of Warships. He used to like Silent Hunter on the original Nintendo. To me the card is a bit overkill which brings me to the OP which was which program is best for overclocking (which should of been underclocking, but all the same).
     
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  18. Rizen

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    Of course the board components are higher temperature than what sites report, sites are reporting the GPU core temperature. The board temperature doesn't matter. The VRMs are rated to 125C, running 60-100C is not a problem.
     
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    Because he is ill-informed and I'm trying to prevent people from wasting money buying a $650 GPU and then underclocking it because he mistakenly thinks a board temperature hitting 100C under max load is a problem.
     
  20. Dayaks

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    If it was my card I could give a shit less and OC it even with hard mods. I have a Titan X running at 1525/8000 @ 1.4V (hard mod) in a chilled loop.

    A relatives I want to be problem free. 100C doesn't bother VRMS but the watercooling pump and other components trapped in the enclosure don't necessarily like it over extended time.

    I worked in composites/electronics developing high end products for eight years. I might have a slight idea of how composites AND electronics degrade over time. Nevermind most of the AIBs lowered the warranty ONLY for the Fury X.

    I seriously just wanted to know the best way to modify the card to my liking and I have to waste my time with replying to this nonsense. If AMD put a small, slow fan on it like every hybrid design I could care less about the temps of the VRMs, but that heat is trapped.

    As for this quote, some sites show the card max temp around 45C. Then others show the PCI-E pins at 68C, which then internally to the card ALL the components are much higher, including capacitors which degrade with heat. Apparently some sites were paid off or have really shitty testing procedures.
     
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  21. shad0w4life

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    What if he's Bill Gates, $650 is a cheap card to him.

    But seriously maybe he bought the Fury X because he wanted a quiet card, or he has a SFF case and wanted to mount the rad outside the case and keep the card running cooler. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbONfPkwa_s Looks like FuryX in SFF beats 980Ti in some cases

    Maybe he wants to underclock it to save power since it can easily handle 1080P running slower speeds

    yada yada
     
  22. Draconian

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    Top pic looks like it has a backplate while bottom pic shows no backplate, IMO I can see why there would be 'conflicting' temp numbers
     
  23. Dayaks

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    Those temps coincide. It's the numbers where everything is 4xC that conflicts, like guru3d, that I did not show. Rizen said he's only seen cool numbers... So I showed him VRMs at 100+ and PCie pins at 60+.

    Am I saying this card will fail soon? No, I like this card. I'd just like to make it a little cooler than the 250D side panel being borderline burning to the touch. :D

    I'll mess around with Afterburner in about an hour... see what it lets me mess with. Fan curves might be enough.
     
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  24. Rizen

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    I apologize, I mistakenly thought you were comparing the board shots @ Toms to other sites reporting the GPU core temperatures. The VRMs at 100C+ is actually not that uncommon, at least across the last couple generations of AMD cards (depending on aftermarket cooler design). But it's interesting that some of the board shots show a backplate and others do not. The card as sold in reference form definitely has one, so I guess some sites must have removed it for reviews.

    Anyways, I think the frame rate limiter suggestion is probably the best idea if they are playing games at 1080P, along with a undervolting whenever that is a possibility.
     
  25. trandoanhung1991

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    I think a combination of negative core clock offset + FPS limiter in RivaTuner + 15% higher fan should do the trick.

    Maybe set up a dedicated 92mm fan blowing over the GPU cover? Might help blow away some of the heat.

    You can also flash a custom BIOS onto it if/when a BIOS editor is made available for Fiji.
     
  26. DeadSkull

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    I think some voltage control has already been unlocked by enthusiasts. TPU tested Fury X undervolted. I'd look at OCN Fury X thread.
     
  27. Dayaks

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    I might. I checked out Afterburner and most things are greyed out. I ended up adjusting the max fan speed higher and max temp lower in catalyst control center. Didn't get to mess around testing it much yet. Should accomplish my goal though. Give bit more cooling headroom and a lower max temp. Probably won't even need to throttle just crank the fan a little more, at least that's my hope.
     
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  28. Dayaks

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    For the record after adjusting the Fan/Max temp settings this card is a bit cooler and is still quiet. I really like the thing. Fury X is really nice for (the bigger end) of SFF where you can fit the rad, like a 250D. I always like AIO card and Fury X makes sense if you compare it against a 980ti AIO.
     
  29. LigTasm

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    You should be able to just use AMD CCC, set the clock and/or power target lower and it should run cooler. Otherwise MSI afterburner works fine on my Fury.
     
  30. Dayaks

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    Yeah I just used what was in CCC and set the max fan speed a little higher and max temp a little lower (55C).