Folding with Xeon E5 v2?

[quickz]

Xeon E5-2600 v2 is comming soon. I found a CPU-z snapshot on internet:
http://img03.taobaocdn.com/imgextra/i3/1084404919/T26aUiXmJXXXXXXXXX_!!1084404919.png
Looks not bad, core speed=2.0GHz, 12c 24t, stepping=2, boost speed is unknown.
Has anyone got such an E5 v2 cpu and folded with it?

 

[bigted]

dat cache size :drool:

i don't think there are any of these around yet, you sure you're gonna have a board that will support it? BIOS updates or anything?

 

[quickz]

dat cache size :drool:

i don't think there are any of these around yet, you sure you're gonna have a board that will support it? BIOS updates or anything?

Recently, several Ivy Bridge Xeon E5-26xx v2 CPUs have been added to the Asrock's 2011 cpu support list, see:
http://www.asrock.com/support/cpu.asp?s=2011

2011 Xeon E5-2680 v2(M0) Ivy Bridge 2.8GHz BLK 100MHz 25MB 115W List
2011 Xeon E5-2697 v2(C1) Ivy Bridge 2.7GHz BLK 100MHz 30MB 130W List
2011 Xeon E5-2640 v2(M0) Ivy Bridge 2GHz BLK 100MHz 20MB 95W List
2011 Xeon E5-2697 v2(C0) Ivy Bridge 2.7GHz BLK 100MHz 30MB 130W List
2011 Xeon E5-2690 v2(M0) Ivy Bridge 3GHz BLK 100MHz 25MB 130W List
2011 Xeon E5-2695V2(C0) Ivy Bridge 2.4GHz BLK 100MHz 30MB 115W List
2011 Xeon E5-2643 v2(M0) Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz BLK 100MHz 25MB 130W List
2011 Xeon E5-2687W v2(M0) Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz BLK 100MHz 25MB 150W List
2011 Xeon E5-2660 v2(M0) Ivy Bridge 2.2GHz BLK 100MHz 25MB 95W List
2011 Xeon E5-2650L v2(M0) Ivy Bridge 1.7GHz BLK 100MHz 25MB 70W List
2011 Xeon E5-2650 v2(M0) Ivy Bridge 2.6GHz BLK 100MHz 20MB 95W List
2011 Xeon E5-2670 v2(M0) Ivy Bridge 2.5GHz BLK 100MHz 25MB 115W List

The CPU model in my snapshot is not included in the list, but I guess it's probably supported.

 

[Pocatello]

any ideas on pricing?

 

[Nathan_P]

over $1000 for any of the decent chips with lots o' cores

 

[DeFex]

The new fastest supercomputer "milky way 2" in china uses 32000 of them (and 48000 xeon phi) so they are being manufactured. When can we peons get one? Who knows.

Edit:

According to this, it won't be till September, but that's not official.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Xeon_microprocessors#Xeon_E5_v2

 

[houkouonchi]

When are those ivy bridge SMP cpu's coming out? I was waiting forever to upgrade my computer waiting for ivy bridge but I finally gave up and just got some sandy bridge =)

 

[mkrohn]

forget folding, I need 4 for word processing

 

[quickz]

Hi, I found some FAH benchmark results for Xeon E5-2600 v2. I think it's not bad at all:

P8101: avg TPF=13m40s, PPD=344k
P8102: avg TPF=10m38s, PPD=501k
P8105: avg TPF=10m44s, PPD=482k

CPU is Xeon E5-2600 v2 2.0GHz 12c24t x2 (allcore turbo 2.4GHz), with SM X9DAi board and 4G DDR3 1333 memory x8.

 

[mkrohn]

Xeon E5-2600 v2 is comming soon. I found a CPU-z snapshot on internet:
http://img03.taobaocdn.com/imgextra/i3/1084404919/T26aUiXmJXXXXXXXXX_!!1084404919.png
Looks not bad, core speed=2.0GHz, 12c 24t, stepping=2, boost speed is unknown.
Has anyone got such an E5 v2 cpu and folded with it?

Can it handle my email?

 

[m33pm33p]

Can it handle my email?

The real question here is..

Can it run Crysis?


Thats some sexy ass PPD though. Good goal for the future.

 

[Kai]

Holy PPD!!!

 

[Nathan_P]

Hi, I found some FAH benchmark results for Xeon E5-2600 v2. I think it's not bad at all:

P8101: avg TPF=13m40s, PPD=344k
P8102: avg TPF=10m38s, PPD=501k
P8105: avg TPF=10m44s, PPD=482k

CPU is Xeon E5-2600 v2 2.0GHz 12c24t x2 (allcore turbo 2.4GHz), with SM X9DAi board and 4G DDR3 1333 memory x8.

Ohhh, I know what i'm buyin next

 

[plext0r]

Ohhh, I know what i'm buyin next

E5-46xx v2 4P system?

 

[AndyE]

E5-46xx v2 4P system?

ui, ui, ui.

4 x 12c/24t = 96 threads. Will be fun to find out how well the FAH cores can deal with that many threads

4x 4.000$ = 167$ / thread

if the 46xx v2 have similar performance improvements than I "calculated" (*) for the 2P systems, such a system might be in the 1.7 - 1.8m ppd range. Unless it picks up a 8101 WU

Time will tell ...
Andy

(*) .... Nothing more than a quick back of the envelope calculation ...

 

[Nathan_P]

E5-46xx v2 4P system?

Nothing so extravagant, just lowly 26xx v2 2p

 

[plext0r]

ui, ui, ui.

4 x 12c/24t = 96 threads. Will be fun to find out how well the FAH cores can deal with that many threads

4x 4.000$ = 167$ / thread

I would hope we could pick up extra spicy chips for less than $4,000 each.

 

[FrEaKy]

I only have one thing to contribute


"Bake it!"

 

[Zink]

Prices

Model		   Cores	Frequency	L3 cache   TDP	   Pre-order price
Xeon E5-2603  v2	 4	 1.8 GHz	 10 MB	 80 Watt	 $231.62
Xeon E5-2609  v2	 4	 2.5 GHz	 10 MB	 80 Watt	 $337.03
Xeon E5-2620  v2	 6	 2.1 GHz	 15 MB	 80 Watt	 $464.48
Xeon E5-2630  v2	 6	 2.6 GHz	 15 MB	 80 Watt	  
Xeon E5-2630L v2	 6	 2.4 GHz	 15 MB	  	  	 $701.01
Xeon E5-2637  v2	 4	 3.5 GHz	 15 MB	  	  	 $1140.99
Xeon E5-2640  v2	 8	 2.0 GHz	 20 MB	 95 Watt	 $1013.54
Xeon E5-2643  v2	 6	 3.5 GHz	 25 MB	 130 Watt	  
Xeon E5-2650  v2	 8	 2.6 GHz	 20 MB	 95 Watt	 $1335.85
Xeon E5-2650L v2	 10	 1.7 GHz	 25 MB	 70 Watt	 $1395.91
Xeon E5-2660  v2	 10	 2.2 GHz	 25 MB	 95 Watt	 $1590.78
Xeon E5-2667  v2	 8	 3.3 GHz	 25 MB	 130 Watt	 $2320.64
Xeon E5-2670  v2	 10	 2.5 GHz	 25 MB	 115 Watt	  
Xeon E5-2680  v2	 10	 2.8 GHz	 25 MB	 115 Watt	 $1943.93
Xeon E5-2687W v2	 8	 3.4 GHz	 20 MB	 150 Watt	 $2414.35
Xeon E5-2690  v2	 10	 3.0 GHz	 25 MB	 130 Watt	 $2355.52
Xeon E5-2695  v2	 12	 2.4 GHz	 30 MB	 115 Watt	 $2675.39
Xeon E5-2697  v2	 12	 2.7 GHz	 30 MB	 130 Watt	 $2949.69

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7214/xeon-e52600-v2-price-list-server-ivy-bridgeep

 

[quickz]

E5-4600 v2 spec (from wikipedia):

Six Core 
Xeon E5-4603 v2  6 2.2 GHz N/A 6 x 256 KB 15 MB 95 W LGA 2011 2 x 6.4 GT/s QPI Q1 2014   
Xeon E5-4607 v2  6 2.6 GHz N/A 6 x 256 KB 15 MB 95 W LGA 2011 2 x 6.4 GT/s QPI Q1 2014   
Eight Core 
Xeon E5-4620 v2  8 2.6 GHz N/A 8 x 256 KB 20 MB 95 W LGA 2011 2 x 7.2 GT/s QPI Q1 2014   
Xeon E5-4627 v2  8 3.3 GHz N/A 8 x 256 KB 20 MB 130 W LGA 2011 2 x 8.0 GT/s QPI Q1 2014   
Twelve Core 
Xeon E5-4640 v2  12 2.2 GHz N/A 12 x 256 KB 30 MB 95 W LGA 2011 2 x 8.0 GT/s QPI Q1 2014   
Xeon E5-4650 v2  12 2.4 GHz N/A 12 x 256 KB 30 MB 115 W LGA 2011 2 x 8.0 GT/s QPI Q1 2014

 

[quickz]

Another E5 v2 PPD result (obtained by ocw):
CPU: E5 v2 12c 24t x2, default 2.3GHz all-core 2.6GHz
Proj 8105, TPF=9m55s, PPD=543K (theoretical), 527K (real-world).

 

[AndyE]

I'd be surprised if the E5-2687W v2 has "only" 8 cores - wouldn't make sense from a performance and price perspective.

Guess, it will be a 10 core CPU.
W'll see what it really will be in September.

 

[quickz]

It's very probably true that E5-2687W v2 is only 8-core. Here is a hwinfo64 snapshot for it (QS version):

 

[AndyE]

It's very probably true that E5-2687W v2 is only 8-core. Here is a hwinfo64 snapshot for it (QS version):

Thank you for sharing the screenshot.

Still, I can't see why a 150 watt TDP CPU with 8 cores will be introduced which has less overall CPU performance than the 130 and 115 watt models of the same architecture.

CPU-world has a small footnote, that there are currently 2 "sources" for the upcoming E5-2687W v2. One with 8 cores, and one with 10 cores. The 10 core version with the indicated frequency would be the top performing model, resembling the same position in the current product line. The 8 core version will be outperformed by all models above the E5-2680v2.

Only a few weeks are left until we know for sure.

Again, thanks for sharing the screenshot,
Andy

 

[quickz]

Xeon E5-2600 v2 is officially released now.
The released prices are 10-15% lower than the pre-order prices:

Xeon E5-2603  v2 4  1.8  GHz 10  MB 6.4  GT/s 80   Watt $202   
Xeon E5-2609  v2 4  2.5  GHz 10  MB 6.4  GT/s 80   Watt $294   
Xeon E5-2620  v2 6  2.1  GHz 15  MB 7.2  GT/s 80   Watt $406   
Xeon E5-2630L v2 6  2.4  GHz 15  MB 7.2  GT/s 60   Watt $612   
Xeon E5-2630  v2 6  2.6  GHz 15  MB 7.2  GT/s 80   Watt $612   
Xeon E5-2637  v2 4  3.5  GHz 15  MB 8.0  GT/s 130  Watt $996   
Xeon E5-2640  v2 8  2.0  GHz 20  MB 7.2  GT/s 95   Watt $885   
Xeon E5-2643  v2 6  3.5  GHz 25  MB 8.0  GT/s 130  Watt $1,552   
Xeon E5-2650  v2 8  2.6  GHz 20  MB 8.0  GT/s 95   Watt $1,166   
Xeon E5-2650L v2 10 1.7  GHz 25  MB 8.0  GT/s 70   Watt $1,219   
Xeon E5-2660  v2 10 2.2  GHz 25  MB 8.0  GT/s 95   Watt $1,389   
Xeon E5-2667  v2 8  3.3  GHz 25  MB 8.0  GT/s 130  Watt $2,057   
Xeon E5-2670  v2 10 2.5  GHz 25  MB 8.0  GT/s 115  Watt $1,552   
Xeon E5-2680  v2 10 2.8  GHz 25  MB 8.0  GT/s 115  Watt $1,723   
Xeon E5-2687W v2 8  3.4  GHz 25  MB 8.0  GT/s 150  Watt $2,108   
Xeon E5-2690  v2 10 3.0  GHz 25  MB 8.0  GT/s 130  Watt $2,057   
Xeon E5-2695  v2 12 2.4  GHz 30  MB 8.0  GT/s 115  Watt $2,336   
Xeon E5-2697  v2 12 2.7  GHz 30  MB 8.0  GT/s 130  Watt $2,614

 

[quickz]

Today I found a hwinfo64 & CPU-z's snapshot for IVB Xeon E5-4650 v2 (ES).
It's 12C 24T, B1 stepping, only 120W TDP, and the all-core turbo is 2.7GHz.
The PPD of a 4P rig armed with this model of CPU is estimated to be about 1500000! I think this would be wonderful.

http://img02.taobaocdn.com/imgextra/i2/388833073/T26qdeXvJXXXXXXXXX_!!388833073.png

 

[plext0r]

Today I found a hwinfo64 & CPU-z's snapshot for IVB Xeon E5-4650 v2 (ES).
It's 12C 24T, B1 stepping, only 120W TDP, and the all-core turbo is 2.7GHz.
The PPD of a 4P rig armed with this model of CPU is estimated to be about 1500000! I think this would be wonderful.

http://img02.taobaocdn.com/imgextra/i2/388833073/T26qdeXvJXXXXXXXXX_!!388833073.png

Where can I get these guys?

 

[m33pm33p]

Where can I get these guys?

You put that smiley face as if you're kidding?

 

[musky]

He isn't, nor am I - I have some feelers out now for them...

 

[Chehau]

Can anyone tell me the maximum core/thread that ubuntu can handle?

 

[tear]

Linux has been used on large systems (think thousands of CPUs) for a long time.

To check how many CPUs your kernel has been configured for, run:

grep NR_CPUS /boot/config-$(uname -r)

On 12.04 I get 256 CPUs.

If you happen to exceed that number -- don't fret -- kernel can always be rebuilt for higher number of CPUs.


Note, however, some tools (like Ubuntu's System Monitor) may be limited to fewer CPUs.
While annoying, problems like that do not affect the operating system.

 

[ChristianVirtual]

Do I understand it right that a single Xeon 2660v2 could do BA ? What PPD ?

 

[quickz]

The E5-2660v2 is 10C with all-core 2.6GHz, I think it's enough to finish any BA WUs within preferred deadlines. The 8101's PPD for a single E5-2660v2 is estimated to be 100 - 110K.

Do I understand it right that a single Xeon 2660v2 could do BA ? What PPD ?

 

[ChristianVirtual]

The E5-2660v2 is 10C with all-core 2.6GHz, I think it's enough to finish any BA WUs within preferred deadlines. The 8101's PPD for a single E5-2660v2 is estimated to be 100 - 110K.

That would be a nice PPD/W ratio; better than my GTX 780 ... Thinking ...

 

[AndyE]

I just ordered 2x E5-2697v2.
(I am still scratching my head about the product positioning of the new E5-2687Wv2. The top of the line CPU in the previous generation seems to be from my POV in this round somehow superfluos. Or the usage pattern is so narrowly defined, that I can't currently see it.)

If there is interest, I can share some ppd numbers and power consumption figures of the 2697's when they arrive (if all works well, by tomorrow).

Cheers,
Andy

 

[Nathan_P]

I just ordered 2x E5-2697v2.

If there is interest, I can share some ppd numbers and power consumption figures of the 2697's when they arrive (if all works well, by tomorrow).

Cheers,
Andy

Yes please, I have a new motherboard with some empty cpu sockets that need filling

 

[plext0r]

I just ordered 2x E5-2697v2.

Woohoo! Here's hoping AndyE is on another hardware shopping spree. Of course, I'm even more interested in the E5-4650 v2-equivalent coming out early next year.

 

[AndyE]

Yes please, I have a new motherboard with some empty cpu sockets that need filling

Nathan,
I was intrigued by the good combination of performance increase and better power consumption. I have one motherboard with faster DDR3 chips (1866 MHz), not sure hoch much of a difference all of this produces. I'll see soon.

Woohoo! Here's hoping AndyE is on another hardware shopping spree. Of course, I'm even more interested in the E5-4650 v2-equivalent coming out early next year.

Brilong,
only these CPUs. The last ones. Ever. Promised.

With these CPUs (btw, these are retail versions), I am very curious if a E5-2697v2 system can match the energy efficiency of the i4P systems. My working assumption is that the dual socket system should be in the 600-650k ppd range (with 8102-8105 units). The second assumption is a power consumption well below 400 watt, probably closer to 320-350 watt. So, in a best case scenario of 650k ppd and 320 watt, the dual socket system would achieve more than 2000 ppd/watt. With 600k ppd and 350 watt, this would be 1715 ppd/watt. Both numbers would be better than my E5-4650 system (approx 1500 ppd/watt). If it is really along those lines, I consider this impressive for a dual socket system - given the lever of the QRB system favors the 4 socket systems.

Yep, I had been on a "shopping spree" recently. Got an emergency power unit with 12kw today. Not easy to move it around with 1500 pounds, but it produces rock solid sine curves. Seen through the FAH goggles, this EPU could sustain 18 mio ppd - if only i4P servers are connected Too bad that I don't have that many servers....

Sorry for the low quality, taken with the mobile phone

Cheers,
Andy

 

[Pocatello]

Andy,

what is that in the picture?

Got an emergency power unit with 12kw today. Not easy to move it around with 1500 pounds, but it produces rock solid sine curves.

Does it burn gasoline, diesel, natural gas?

 

[AndyE]

Andy,
what is that in the picture?
Does it burn gasoline, diesel, natural gas?

One way to get a "tax return"
It is a 20 year old surplus military power unit, which was used 64 hours in 20 years (probably only check runs). It was produced by a Bosch subsidiary (Eisemann) for the German army. Practically speaking it is unused and well maintained.

Some features:
Powered by a 2 cylinder air-cooled Hatz diesel engine
Has a 12kw (15 kVA) synchronous generator
Produces either 12kw/380V triple-phase, or directly 7kw/220V single phase (Triple-phase power can be split in 3 single phase lines with 4kw each)
Housed in a silencer case
Has a 22lt (6 gallon) buffer tank built in. Direct use of jerry cans or external tanks is possible. Uses 0.6 gallon/hr when idle, 0.8 gal/hr when delivering 9kw and 1.2gal/hr under full load
Built like a tank (1500 lbs)
2x 12V batteries included (for starting the thing)
Very low voltage drops during load changes (i.e starting a compressor)

currently 2 use cases:
I have a 380V power transfer switch in my house, so it is easy to switch over to the generator if needed.
Stable portable power, wherever I need it (I have a crane in my car to handle the weight)

cheers,
Andy