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neomorpheus

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As the title says, it's my first build and I would like it if you guys could just over look it to make sure everything should work fine. This is going to be my gaming computer so i will be over clocking it a decent amount. The only item I'm not 100% sure on it the memory.

Asus P5k Deluxe motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813131182

MSI 8800 Ultra video card:
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16814127288

Thermaltake 700W power supply:
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16817153039

G.Skill 4GB DDR2 800 RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820231098

WD 150GB Raptor hard drive:
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16822136011

2 Seagate Barracuda 500GB hard drives:
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16822148136

Lite-On 20x DVD Burner:
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16827106073

Intel C2D Q6600 G0 Processor:
http://www.clubit.com/product_detail.cfm?itemno=A1938452

Lian Li PC-V1200B with side window and 120mm blowhole:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=103_193&products_id=2563

5x Yate Loon 120mm Case Fan:
http://www.jab-tech.com/YATE-LOON-120mm-Case-Fan-D12SH-12-High-Speed-pr-3771.html

Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme Heatsink:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16835109140

2x Silverstone 120mm case fans for Heatsink:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811999344

Scythe Kama 120mm fan for 5.25":
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835185020

Please let me know if you see anything that you feel would be a good change for me. Thanks for the help!!!
 
What made you choose the P5K Deluxe? IMO, its way overpriced. Alternatives would be the P5K-E, Abit IP35 Pro, or Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R.

What size monitor do you have?

For the price of that Toughpower 700W, I'd suggest the Corsair 620W instead (not from newegg; zipzoomfly, clubit.com, or buy.com).

The Raptor isn't really worth its price premium:
78MB/s: WD Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB, $160AR
65MB/s: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS 320GB, $80
65MB/s: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3300620AS 300GB, $60
52MB/s: WD Caviar SE16 WD2500KS 250GB, $70
112MB/s: RAID0 'cuda's, 600GB total, $120 (ICH9R on P35-DS3R)

As you can see, the 'cuda is twice the size and half the cost, for nearly the same performance. Stick them in RAID0, and you've got an even more cost effective solution!

For 4GB, I'd go with a 2x2GB kit instead of 4x1GB. If you stick with 4x1GB, those G.Skill sticks are great for the money.
 
I agree with everything Enginurd said. Also, be sure to run a 64-bit version of Windows if you're going with 4 gigs of RAM.

Mark.
 
Enginurd

I choose the P5K deluxe because of the success others are having with over clocking with this board. The IP35 Pro was my other choice. I made a post about it in the motherboard forums, but it never gathered much steam.

I have a 24 inch monitor from dell with 1920x1200 resolution. Thats why I'm choosing the 8800 ultra over say an 8800 gts.

If you don't mind me asking why would you choose the 620W corsair over the 700w Toughpower? I'm not trying to say your wrong or anything i would just like to educate myself a little bit.

The reason i originally chose the the raptor was because come Christmas i am going to be water cooling this PC and i would like to remove the one bottom 3.5" cage for my water pump. This would only allow me the hold 3 drives. What i will probably do is drop a 500gb for the 2x 320/300gb drives with raid 0.

Again if you don't mind me asking why would 2x2gb sticks be better than 4x1gb sticks?

Markyip1

Already have a copy of Vistax64 ultimate!

And again thanks for the help
 
I would say the IP35 Pro, it has some very good overclocking features. The reason to choose the Corsair HX620 is because it is both quieter and provides the same or more power than the Thermaltake that you stated (The Corsair is actually a 700-750W power supply that has been rerated to 620 W so that it is quiet. Nobody really knows the exact wattage). 2x2GB is better than 4x1GB because you get space to upgrade in the future, but it doesn't matter, as by the time that you will upgrade this rig, you would get a new motherboard and memory anyway.

As for you hard drives, I would change the single Raptor for a dual Seagate barracuda 250GB setup. It will be nearly half the price but be about 60% faster in performance. So, in all, you would have 4 hard drives, in a hard drive caddy. I would also wait and just use an Arctic Cooler and some lighter overclocking before you get the watercooling system, you can save a nice amount of money and keep most of the performance.
 
The reason you want 2x2 over 4x1, in addition to 2x2 providing a more flexible upgrade to 8 gig later down the road, is because 2x2 works better than 4x1 in many motherboards. Depending upon the RAM / mobo combination you end up purchasing, 4x1 may have trouble booting (without first booting w/o 2 sticks and downloading a BIOS update,) and in many P35 boards in particular, a 2x2 setup overclocks better than a 4x1 setup.

This is not to say 4x1 isn't doable, and if you pricing matters most, then 4x1 should serve you well. Just be sure to research that the RAM you purchase will work with the motherboard you get when putting in 4 DIMMS.

Mark.
 
neomorpheus said:
Enginurd

If you don't mind me asking why would you choose the 620W corsair over the 700w Toughpower? I'm not trying to say your wrong or anything i would just like to educate myself a little bit.
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Well the Corsair 620W provide more power (50A) on the +12V rail than the Toughpower 700W (43A I believe). The +12V rail is where most of the parts on a PC take their power from.
 
As Mark mentioned, some boards have problems with 4 sticks of RAM (usually the nForce boards). It gets trickier OC'ing with 4 sticks because of power management by the board, and the fact that it has to run more sticks at a stable speed.

The Corsair is built by Seasonic, so its just better quality IMO. The CWT build Toughpower is still ok, but as far as cost/performance goes, I'd opt for the $125AR Corsair unless you can find the Toughpower for less. The Toughpower 750W used to be on sale at Fry's for $125... now that would have been a nice deal.

The P5K Deluxe is really overpriced, imo. If you don't really need all of its features, then drop down to the IP35 Pro or P5K-E. FYI, an IP35-E ($70AR) can OC to 500Mhz+... so you don't need an uber expensive board to OC. Go with whichever board meets your needs for the least amount of money.
 
I'm going to take everyones advice and change both my PSU to the corsair and my motherboard to the Abit IP35-Pro over the IP35-E because of the additional Sata ports.

I changed from an MSI 8800Ultra to an Evga one because of the step up program and better support from what I've been reading.

Changed from a raptor to the two cuda's in raid0, I chose the 320gb models.

I'm going to change my memory to a 2x2gb sticks and was wondering if these would be fine for that.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220227
or should i keep with the cheaper G.skill ones.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231122
 
FYI, the Gigabyte DS3R has 8 SATA ports, and it comes with a PCI bracket to convert two of those internal ports into e-SATA ports.

Either of those ram kits would work fine.
 
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