No he doesn't.
And yes I do. Just b/c you can't read the rest of the posts here to find out I agreed with not tipping for fast food/service trucks doesn't give you the right to call me out.
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No he doesn't.
And yes I do. Just b/c you can't read the rest of the posts here to find out I agreed with not tipping for fast food/service trucks doesn't give you the right to call me out.
No he doesn't. I can't believe how fast this has gone into a "why you should tip" argument on the forums. It was a lunch truck, people - a fast food joint. If the single, large $170 order didn't come to them, then perhaps a ton of other smaller orders totaling $170 (or more) with all of those "difficult-to-make" sandwiches would have come as well. Should the people who didn't tip with the smaller orders be blasted on twitter too? Customer service is a shitty job field to be in - no argument here. But no one should expect to keep their job after personally trashing customers on twitter for all the world to see. He even directed the tweet at the company's twitter account.
I understand tipping based on performance. No the tip is not mandatory, but you apparently understand this is how this person's well being is established. Not caring about their situation given that is no different than passing a dying person on the street. It's inconsiderate. And in the case of being robbed, I would hope you don't get hurt, but in the loss of cash or items, why should I care about your financial situation?
I certainly do. Aside from the server doing a bad job, what's the difference if you choose not to tip him/her? In my eyes that's indirectly stealing given how the system works.
I certainly do. Aside from the server doing a bad job, what's the difference if you choose not to tip him/her? In my eyes that's indirectly stealing given how the system works.
wow the douchebaggery in this thread is staggering and kind of depressing
No he doesn't. I can't believe how fast this has gone into a "why you should tip" argument on the forums. It was a lunch truck, people - a fast food joint. If the single, large $170 order didn't come to them, then perhaps a ton of other smaller orders totaling $170 (or more) with all of those "difficult-to-make" sandwiches would have come as well. Should the people who didn't tip with the smaller orders be blasted on twitter too? Customer service is a shitty job field to be in - no argument here. But no one should expect to keep their job after personally trashing customers on twitter for all the world to see. He even directed the tweet at the company's twitter account.
Yes and no. If you have one customer essentially stop a long line with a huge order? Yeah, I honestly DO think that calls for a tip.
Can't tell if serious or just trolling. Either way your a testa di cazzo!
Yes and no. If you have one customer essentially stop a long line with a huge order? Yeah, I honestly DO think that calls for a tip.
Have you ever worked as a waiter or a delivery driver? Do you have any idea how averages and percentages work?
Tips on the large orders make up for tightfisted people who think its ok to derp around and tip a flat fee rather than a percent. Also, the larger the order, generally the more items that are brought out to you, hence the waiter is doing more work per order.
No where is that more important than being a waiter or waitress where it is completely 100% legal to pay below the minimum wage and their entire earning potential comes from tips. For delivery drivers that get paid more than minimum wage the tipping is debatable, but their pay still isn't that good and they have to deal with extra wear and tear on their vehicle.
That $25 steak required a lot more care and attention to make than some $6 burger. It requires more work and care especially because they have to be cooked perfectly.
I never get people who find all sorts of ways to justify why they should tip only a certain amount. If someone doesn't want to tip, they should go to the local fast food joint, cook a meal themselves, or get a significant other to cook which can arguably be much more expensive.
Maybe. A good server at a good restaurant can make $70-100k a year, which might be more than he could make elsewhere.
I really doubt that is happening on a food truck that serves Grilled Cheese and ice cream.
I really doubt that is happening on a food truck that serves Grilled Cheese and ice cream.
Wow...so many people here are jackholes...
Tipping is part of the wage. That is why the companies are allowed to pay crap ass wages.
To all of you that say any of the following:
If you dont like the wage, dont work there
You are not entitled to a tip
Food service workers make decent wages
Screw you. I hope when you go back to a place you fail to tip at they spit in your food. Serves you right.
Shame on you
Wow...so many people here are jackholes...
Tipping is part of the wage. That is why the companies are allowed to pay crap ass wages.
To all of you that say any of the following:
If you dont like the wage, dont work there
You are not entitled to a tip
Food service workers make decent wages
Screw you. I hope when you go back to a place you fail to tip at they spit in your food. Serves you right.
Shame on you
and to you i say:
go to school so you can get a better job
servers are absolutely not entitled to a tip, hence the name
i know food servers who make more per hour than i do (even $50-100 on weekends) but only work part time so overall they make less. i dont feel sorry for them.
i always tip, and usually generously if the service wasnt bad (~20%). however, i do think the practice is retarded and the servers should just get paid more and the food should cost more. also, saying the service industry is incredibly hard is stupid. how bout i trade my job as an engineer that i went to school (4 years of not working, and racked up thousands in debt) for your job as a server, and see who can do whos job? i have worked service before, and it can be hectic and sometimes even stressful, but it is NOT hard. try having an actual deadline and actual responsibilities.
In 35 years I still have not figured out why people use a degree to justify arrogance.
In 35 years I still have not figured out why people use a degree to justify arrogance.
You are right. I left that part out. The base pay is below minimum wage, whatever they don't make up for in tips to get equal to or above minimum wage is required to be made up by the employer.Except there is no place in the US where it is 100% legal to pay below the minimum wage, yes even in the food service industry because the owner of said business MUST make up any difference between wage and tip deficit if that worker is not making at least minimum wage in some way.
You are right. I left that part out. The base pay is below minimum wage, whatever they don't make up for in tips to get equal to or above minimum wage is required to be made up by the employer.
I totally agree with you. My original remark was in regards to people who think its ok to tip the same $2 they would for a burger and fries that they would a $25 steak. If the waiter is a jerk or doesn't do his job, it doesn't matter how much the meal is.still doesn't mean you don't have to earn it. If you simply do your basic job and act like you don't want to even talk to me and nothing else your lucky to ever see more than a dollar from me. But if your ontop of things, constant refills on my water and coffee, quality checking and such I have no issues with 20%-30% tips.
My lowest tip? 1 cent and a note saying "penny for my thoughts? Don't make me wait 15 minutes for a drink" for making me wait 15 minutes just to take my drink order lol.
if you read that as arrogance then that only reflects your own defensiveness or emotional vulnerability. i was simply pointing out that because i have a degree, i can do a job that someone who did not get my degree can not do. that is a fact. so tell me what's so difficult about writing down an order right, carrying it all the way from one side of a room to the other, and being somewhat courteous and i will tell you what is difficult about being an engineer.
i have worked service before, and it can be hectic and sometimes even stressful, but it is NOT hard. try having an actual deadline and actual responsibilities.
Nope. Blame the US government and lobbyists. The "sub-minimum" wage for tipped employees has been a federal standard since 1966. Some states have gone above and beyond and provide better minimum wage for this class of worker, which they are legally allowed to do, but the federal law is the minimum.Seems like business owners are the ones we should be getting mad at. Did they notice their employees were getting above minimum wage (due to tips) so they decided to put an end to it?
There is no tipping in Japan.
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LOL a bit perturbed, are we? I'll let the tone of your response speak for itself.
Serving food consists of nothing but constant deadlines and responsibilities, right? But how are your deadlines and responsibilities more important to society?
in fact, i am having a hard time thinking of anything less important than food service.