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Feedback needed for watercooling setup

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Well, I've recently upgraded to c2d setup and thinking now of how to cool it (running stock intel cooler right now). I watercooled my old p4 rig with TDX/D4/DangerDen single heatercore on a Radbox, everything was fine but the damn res I had in the loop had to tendency to crack at the seam - not surprisingly dangerden decided to stop selling those stupid reservoirs

Anyways, I'm torn b/n top aircooler (like Thermalright Ultra 120 or Tuniq Tower) and reviving watercooling setup... I can certainly re-use D4 and HC but I prolly need another waterblock - I don't want to mess with changing tops on TDX, I guess, and this time I'll go for a t-line, I'm done with reservoirs... I'll prolly want to replace my old tubing, get a T and quick disconnects, and a fillport. I also want to get Fuzion. So, all in all, it runs almost a $130-$140 or so for the upgrade. Now, my questions:
1) Is it worth running oc'ed C2d with d4/single DD HC/fuzion? I mean is that sufficient? I don't plan to watercool my video, just the cpu
2) Is the above setup more efficient than a top aircooler or do I need a better rad/pump? I mean, I don't want to shell out another $250 on watercooling, as I already did that a while ago, especially since I can have a strong aircooler for about $50 or so, after all, I have Antec 900 with excellent airflow.

I'd appreciate some input. I'm torn b/n the two. Watercooling has a certain attraction of geekiness to it if you know what I mean, but I think I'll be perfectly happy with an aircooler for financial reasons... although the weight and size of those monsters is a concern for I don't want to warp my new mobo... Thanks for reading!
 
You can cool a dual core with that setup but the temps won't be very good. Probably about the same as a high end air cooler. Multi core chips get hot quickly with oc'ing. I recommend at least a 2x120mm rad.
 
Heatercores have surprisingly good performance. I would try it; it can't hurt.
 
How're you getting $130-$140 for the upgrade?

For a Fuzion, 10' of Masterkleer, a T-line, and a Dangerden fillport, Petra'll charge you $83.83 + s/h. That heatercore will be just fine for the CPU. It'll probably be in the same ballpark as top end air. (I'd wager slightly better.) IMHO, there's not much reason not to stick with water - especially if you like the geeky warm-and-fuzzies that it gives, and you're leery of bolting a pound or more onto your motherboard.

Why do you want quick disconnects? Where are they going in your loop?
 
penguin said:
Heatercores have surprisingly good performance. I would try it; it can't hurt.
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It'd be $130 worth of hurt :p

performance would probably be good. heatercore and d4 just for cpu should be good
 
Thanks for the input, guys :D

I'm aiming to get Colder quick disconnects with shutoff from US Plastics (can't find them anywhere else), 2 pairs cost about $35, and Tygon tubing, another $25 or so, plus shipping, so total is around $70. Fuzion is $77 shipped from Petrashop. So it's almost $150 actually..

I want quick disconnects to attach my HC from the back. Before I used a backplate pass-thru (came with Radbox) but it's 3/8" OD and I'm using 7/16"ID tubing, so I want to eliminate that chokepoint this time. Also, I'd like to avoid mounting the full loop in the case - with quick disconnects, installation and maintenance would be much easier, imho. Am I overthinking this? What would be an alternative for the quick disconnects? Is Masterkleer a viable alternative for Tygon? I used tygon and kinda used to it's strength... just afraid of kinks that a cheaper tubing might have ;)
 
Alright, I got it all setup. Thank you for all your input. Fuzion/Single Heatercore with 2x120mm push/pull on Swiftech radbox/Laing D4 (whiny sucker!)/7/16"ID Masterkleer (too soft compared to my old Tygon), 9 parts water+1 part Petra's red antefreeze (I think it's the VW G12 or something). With this setup I was finally been able to hit 3.6ghz on my e6600 - with stock cooler, I always crashed due to overheating. Now, cpu 3.6ghz@1.4vcore in bios loads at 52c according to coretemp (25min into orthos), idles at 34c, room temp is 72f (AC). AS5 is prolly didn't set in yet, so I hope to drop another couple of degrees off the load..

I didn't quite finish leak-testing but the mobo was flexing so much during the installation that I was afraid I killed it... So after 12hours of leak testing I gave in and fired it up... Imagine what I felt when it didn't even get to bios... TUrns out I didn't quite lock in the memory stick :D I think I'll stop now and continue leak-testing until tomorrow morning :) I'm so excited - 50% overclock w/o any sweat :D

Edit: Bleeding T-line is a b*tch! :D The loop is clear now but I was shaking and turning everything over for ages when filling. I think I still have a little bit of air rattling around in the heatercore but I'm too tired to try getting it out now... Still, this is better than a res which takes up valuable space in my computer and tends to leak (in my old watercooling setup I had 2 leaks, both due to a res that cracked around the fitting due to pressure from tubing).
 
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