Fake E-mail Causes Apple Stock Drop

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Engadget posted an internal Apple e-mail, that eventually turned out to be bogus, that caused the company’s stock to drop by 2.2 percent. The story was corrected after the website was contacted by Apple and investigation into the origin of the internal (fake) e-mail is now under way.

Apparently an internal memo was sent to several Apple employees--and forwarded to Engadget--around 9am CT today saying that Apple issued a press release with the news that the iPhone was now scheduled for October, and Leopard was delayed until January. About an hour and a half after that e-mail went out, a second e-mail was sent--this time officially from Apple--saying the first e-mail was a fake, and that the delivery schedule for the iPhone and Leopard had not changed.
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Nothing Like a little insider trading / manipulation. Steve Jobs options backdating, etc. Looks like someone wanted to drop the stock a little to get a cheaper fill on their options/ stock purchases ...
 
swetmore said:
Nothing Like a little insider trading / manipulation. Steve Jobs options backdating, etc. Looks like someone wanted to drop the stock a little to get a cheaper fill on their options/ stock purchases ...
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It was probably Steve Jobs.

That or the email wasn't a fake and Apple is just trying to save face. Wouldn't surprise me if it was pushed back.
 
With all of the delays, you have to wonder why Apple names its OS after fast creatures. Why not sloth?
 
I would say I do not doubt things being delayed, but the FCC just approved the iPhone today so that pushes it one step closer to coming out on time, maybe.
 
With all of the delays, you have to wonder why Apple names its OS after fast creatures. Why not sloth?
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Longhorn / Vista...5 years+ and final version feature stripped (WOW!) Leopard...a few months.

Yeah. :rolleyes:
 
PorradaVFR said:
Longhorn / Vista...5 years+ and final version feature stripped (WOW!) Leopard...a few months.

Yeah. :rolleyes:
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Umm no one releases an OS from start (scratch) to finish in a few months.
 
Umm no one releases an OS from start (scratch) to finish in a few months.
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I was referring to the statement "all of the delays" made by GJSNeptune - comparing the delay of Leopard from June to October against the 5 years it too M$ to ship a stripped down, vulnerable Vista is absurd.

Not to mention that Vista was a complete rewrite, Leopard is more like an enhancement than a new OS.
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You're joking, right? Seriously? Vista is based on NT and already pales in relation to OS X Tiger (released in 2005, no less!). I was a PC maker / hardcore gamer for years...even worked for one of the high-end gaming rig companies. My Q3/BF/Doom4/CS:S box has been relegated to my wife so she can do freelance gigs. Our PowerBook is my primary machine now - I edit video, do our website, surf, stream media to our Tivo and do so without *any* malware issues to date (2.5 years), no popups and rock-solid uptime.

I'm still amazed at the amount of time I used to spend tweaking registries, finding drivers, running scans and patching crap that I used to deal with. Hell, I was PROUD at how clean I kept my gaming rig...as if spending hours cleaning it made sense. Now I *DO* stuff instead of act like my own IT staff.

Seriously - I've been in both worlds and there is simply no comparison. I can go from website updates to hooking up to my MIDI drum kit in seconds...the OS is simply solid.
 
PorradaVFR said:
You're joking, right? Seriously? Vista is based on NT and already pales in relation to OS X Tiger (released in 2005, no less!). I was a PC maker / hardcore gamer for years...even worked for one of the high-end gaming rig companies. My Q3/BF/Doom4/CS:S box has been relegated to my wife so she can do freelance gigs. Our PowerBook is my primary machine now - I edit video, do our website, surf, stream media to our Tivo and do so without *any* malware issues to date (2.5 years), no popups and rock-solid uptime.

I'm still amazed at the amount of time I used to spend tweaking registries, finding drivers, running scans and patching crap that I used to deal with. Hell, I was PROUD at how clean I kept my gaming rig...as if spending hours cleaning it made sense. Now I *DO* stuff instead of act like my own IT staff.

Seriously - I've been in both worlds and there is simply no comparison. I can go from website updates to hooking up to my MIDI drum kit in seconds...the OS is simply solid.
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Whenever I see someone complain about spyware and malware I typically blame the operator rather than the OS. I use windows, on a gaming machine..., I haven't downloaded any drivers in over 6 months, I never get spyware or adware, never get viruses. I find it funny that you quantify your statement before hand by saying how you "worked for one of the high-end gaming rig companies". No wonder they(gaming computer companies) all suck. If the employees can't figure out how to use a product how are the consumers supposed to do it?

I judge a person's level of computer competency on the OS he uses. Linux/BSD/Unix means you probably know more than the average person. Windows means you are the average person. And Mac OS means you couldn't figure out how to use either of those properly so you had to get the Fisher Price version.
 
PorradaVFR said:
I was referring to the statement "all of the delays" made by GJSNeptune - comparing the delay of Leopard from June to October against the 5 years it too M$ to ship a stripped down, vulnerable Vista is absurd.



You're joking, right? Seriously? Vista is based on NT and already pales in relation to OS X Tiger (released in 2005, no less!). I was a PC maker / hardcore gamer for years...even worked for one of the high-end gaming rig companies. My Q3/BF/Doom4/CS:S box has been relegated to my wife so she can do freelance gigs. Our PowerBook is my primary machine now - I edit video, do our website, surf, stream media to our Tivo and do so without *any* malware issues to date (2.5 years), no popups and rock-solid uptime.

I'm still amazed at the amount of time I used to spend tweaking registries, finding drivers, running scans and patching crap that I used to deal with. Hell, I was PROUD at how clean I kept my gaming rig...as if spending hours cleaning it made sense. Now I *DO* stuff instead of act like my own IT staff.

Seriously - I've been in both worlds and there is simply no comparison. I can go from website updates to hooking up to my MIDI drum kit in seconds...the OS is simply solid.
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Yaa ok, but anyways...

I wonder if Apple knows who is leaking stuff to websites now. This all smells like a sting operation.
 
Eickst said:
Whenever I see someone complain about spyware and malware I typically blame the operator rather than the OS. I use windows, on a gaming machine..., I haven't downloaded any drivers in over 6 months, I never get spyware or adware, never get viruses. I find it funny that you quantify your statement before hand by saying how you "worked for one of the high-end gaming rig companies". No wonder they(gaming computer companies) all suck. If the employees can't figure out how to use a product how are the consumers supposed to do it?

I judge a person's level of computer competency on the OS he uses. Linux/BSD/Unix means you probably know more than the average person. Windows means you are the average person. And Mac OS means you couldn't figure out how to use either of those properly so you had to get the Fisher Price version.
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So how would you judge a well-trained Windows tech support person with a firm grasp on all the Windows concepts and features? I don't think your method of judgment is good as it greatly skews your viewpoint of what kind of person is advanced, technically. Just because an OS is more complicated from the start to use does not mean that the person using it is more skilled. If that was the case, I could write my own OS with such complexity that it would take reading tons of manuals and learning many new concepts to understand all of its feature sets.

Face it, a person that's skilled at Windows is a person that's skilled at Windows. A person that's skilled at Linux is skilled at Linux, although oftentimes, this person is also skilled at Windows. This, however, does not warrant the over-generalization that you use. I'm sure a Mac OS software architect, despite the amount of time he uses to improve Mac OS, would not be a newbie, as you seem to imply.
 
Eickst said:
I judge a person's level of computer competency on the OS he uses. Linux/BSD/Unix means you probably know more than the average person. Windows means you are the average person. And Mac OS means you couldn't figure out how to use either of those properly so you had to get the Fisher Price version.
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I don't prejudge a person's level of computer competency. By the time such a judgment is relevant, the truth is pretty clear.

On topic: I love the current state of the US Stock Exchange. A single story about a single memo on a rumor site is enough to cause stock to drop. Evidence that the stock is overvalued to begin with?
 
the real problem here that people aren't focusing on, is that its engadet. That site is quickly become the inquire.
 
I hate the way everyone posts "Apple lost 4 billion dollars in 6 minutes". According to Yahoo's stock quotes, Apple lost more on the day *before* the story, than the day *of* the story. Yes, there was a significant dip when the story hit, but it had recovered by the end of the day. The maximum dip for that day was less than 5%, and if you simply held your stock until the end of the day, you would have lost nothing. Apple's stock has increased from 85 to 110 in the past three months - that's a gain of 29%... so I'm sorry if I don't cry for the people with stock in Apple because they had one bad day.

Sorry to post on topic and not in some tired old debate about what OS is better... haven't we all grown out of that argument?

-Nate
 
it could simply be a true email that they are trying to keep from letting be public.
 
"Linux/BSD/Unix means you probably know more than the average person. Windows means you are the average person. And Mac OS means you couldn't figure out how to use either of those properly so you had to get the Fisher Price version."

I love that, if you don't mind, I will use that as my sig. :)
 
I smell a major law suit against a certain web site for NOT being more through in investigating the source and destination of the memo.
 
the-one1 said:
"Linux/BSD/Unix means you probably know more than the average person. Windows means you are the average person. And Mac OS means you couldn't figure out how to use either of those properly so you had to get the Fisher Price version."

I love that, if you don't mind, I will use that as my sig. :)
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I don't mind at all.
 
Eickst said:
Whenever I see someone complain about spyware and malware I typically blame the operator rather than the OS. I use windows, on a gaming machine..., I haven't downloaded any drivers in over 6 months, I never get spyware or adware, never get viruses. I find it funny that you quantify your statement before hand by saying how you "worked for one of the high-end gaming rig companies". No wonder they(gaming computer companies) all suck. If the employees can't figure out how to use a product how are the consumers supposed to do it?.
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I didn't get them...but I had to actively maintain and update my scanning tools to insure I remained unaffected BY them. If you're gaming online on a PC without ANY protection on standard hardware (i.e. a cable / DSL connection) and browsing online (even with a non-IE browser) I'd LOVE to give your machine a scan to show you how much "bonus" software you've acquired. :D As for not downloading drivers...guess you're not quite the gamer you proclaim yourself to be...I used to kill myself for a few more FPS. ;)

Your last sentence proves my point PERFECTLY. I was a PC enthusiast, made all my own systems and generally was the guy for friends and family to ask about their computer purchasing / techinical issues. Should it take an enthusiast-level user to maintain simple uptime and security on a computer? Most people (myself now included) just want to DO stuff on their computers, not take them apart, not deal with "tweaks" and especially not expose themselves to malware.

That's the gag. Consumers AREN'T supposed to do it. They shouldn't HAVE to do it, they should haven't to blow money to Geek Squad or their friend to do it. It should work, period. Do you have to 'figure out how to use' your car, or do you expect it to start when you turn the key?

BTW - Mac system sales up 35% over last year...PC industry up 9% - guess that Fisher Price stuff appeals to lots of people. :p
 
PorradaVFR said:
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BTW - Mac system sales up 35% over last year...PC industry up 9% - guess that Fisher Price stuff appeals to lots of people. :p
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That could mean that Apple had sold 135k in 2006 vs 100k in 2005. The PC industry sells how many millions a year? Even a percentage of 9% you're talking about beating Apple.
 
Obviously Mac marketshare is smaller than PCs. Ford F150 pickups FAR outsell Ferraris too. Which one would you rather experience? :D

My point was growth. One is growing significantly faster than the other.
 
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