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F.E.A.R. problems

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Mike Ryna

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I have a 7950GX2, 4600+ AM2, Corsair XMS2 C4 2gb, raided 74gb raptors...

I've started to play F.E.A.R. recently and comparing my performance to that of benchmarks I've read in reviews and things don't add up. I get around 30-40fps idle and it dips disgustingly low in combat (below 20 sometimes). Sometimes it hops up high but not for long. Reviews I've read say that at 1600x1200 4xAA, 8xAF with softshadows off (and I assume everything else at max? at least thats what I'm doing) I should be getting around 70fps average - which is what I was hoping for. Am I wrong in assuming that everything else should be at max? I was hoping my new rig that I built last month could handle this game...

I turned the graphics setting to medium (except changing to 1600x1200 of course, which is the native res of my monitor) and then I get around 70fps. Things don't seem right...

Thanks for any help!
 
vsync is off (it was default i guess)

i got 12k on 3dmark 05 a few weeks ago which is about in line with what I should be getting but I'm going to redo that right now to make sure something isnt messed up

still getting around 20-30fps :(
 
ok i got a 12057 on the free 3dmark05 which is in line with benchmarks ive seen. so it has to be something wrong with my F.E.A.R. settings/config/something. i really wanna figure this out. i appreciate any help
 
I was also told that my FEAR score was very low. I had 91.33..which to me was a pain to use..but i thought since it works i dont care. In 1280x960 i had 60fps avg, with all max 2xaa/8xaf and HQ in the CP for NV. I then switched to the 91.31 using both old and new CP same settings i got 96FPS AVG.

The 91.33 for me worked or didn't work..it was hard to tell if both gpus were working or not because of the speed it is already running..after i switched to the 91.31 i noticed a massive boost in pretty much all my games...before it was like a GTX..now its like a true GX2 ><.

Infact i went into 1600x1200 and i got like 86FPS avg ><..

Things to remember...check multi-gpu (auto detects) and since i dont like the new cp i use old cp.(tested both cps got same result) so since i use old cp i dont have to worry much about profiles etc..it seems the new cp forces profiles..while old cp is a check thing..I pretty much use global settings 100% of the time.

Just remember the GX2 dosen't use SFR or AFR settings like that..its a Single GPU.

Just try old CP imo..set ure normal settings as you would for a single card..dont have to worry about multi gpu either..driver is smart it knows what to do..give that a shot.
 
i have to run 91.31 because i am running XP 64bit. im at work now but ill try out the out CP this afternoon
 
U have an overall better setup, and I did the benchie in the settings U said, with no hardware scaling, and got 59FPS average with a low of 42 on the FEAR test.......You should be smoking me with RAID'ed HDD's and all that AM2 power ;)
 
whats "SFR or AFR"? I guess I don't know what that is.

I'm pretty sure all my settings are set to application controlled except for the performance->quality slider which can't be. What would I set in the CP except for AA and AF and V-sync? Hopefully forcing things globally works because I'm not sure what else will.
 
in terms of the "enable SLI" box I assume you mean multi-display vs. multi-GPU? Or is there something else I need to be doing?

I've never turned anything off of application controlled but I'll try it today. My question is this...what will show up in the F.E.A.R. settings for AA and AF? If I made them different than what I had forced in the CP...will the CP still take precedent?
 
I've tried everything I can think of. Turned V-sync off. Turned hardware acceleration to single-display mode (in the new CP) which was oddly turned to multi-display even though in the multi-display vs. multi-GPU page I have had multi-GPU selected since the day I installed the drivers. I've tried AFR forced, auto-select and single-GPU rendering and I get the same results. Any other ideas?
 
With a GX2 what kind of motherboard do you have and what version is the BIOS on it?


-Proxy
 
my mobo is M2N32 Wireless Deluxe, newest bios available from Asus

I'm going to try those new drivers. I didn't run driver-cleaner before...just uninstalled and reinstalled so maybe that is an issue. I'll try it now.

I just realized that this isn't just a F.E.A.R. problem. The only real games I'd been playing hadn't taxed the system enough (Doom 3 on Ultra, Source Games, and other "older" stuff) and so I'd be smooth so I didn't notice or care. I just ran the video benchmark on lost coast and it was abysmal (like 20fps...). I then benchmarked myself playing DoD:S and only got like 70fps which is too low. Same with my Doom performance. The only weird thing is that I get a fine 3dmark score (12k which is in line with every review I've read...I have the middle slightly-OCed XFX version). Hopefully these drivers and driver cleaner helps.
 
Actually I can't run those drivers because I am running 64bit XP. I'll uninstall and reinstall my current drivers though (WHQL 91.31) and use driver cleaner. Hopefully it helps.
 
I just checked to see if there was any weird Bios setting I was missing and there wasn't. Just something about Nvidia EX that was disabled that I set to auto.

I think the real question lies in what does 3dmark override that no game does...because it is the only program where I achieve expected performance.
 
lol you've got to be kidding me...that just fixed it.

wtf is that? and why the hell would it be default disabled!!!
 
ahh interesting.

Apparently that is a bios enabled performance optimization for nforce 590 motherboards.

Glad you figured it out. :p
 
ha i searched some on google and found some benchmarks testing it with it on and with it off and it apparently it isn't supposed to mess anything up...but it did for me. they seem to say that nobody really knows what it does...well all i know is with it off my performance was more than HALVED.

thanks for everybody that tried to help today
 
Mike Ryna said:
lol you've got to be kidding me...that just fixed it.

wtf is that? and why the hell would it be default disabled!!!
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Ahha! you win!

Congrats, hope i helped.
 
hmm new problems. I still get bad performance in F.E.A.R. now if I play after my computer has been idling for a while. I only get good performance when I play shortly after a restart. This problem seems to not be affecting other games as the lost coast benchmark still gets the same frames as it should when I test it after starting F.E.A.R. and getting good performance. Now I'm not sure whether that bios setting did anything at all...or if leaving my computer idling could actually mess something...any ideas?

edit: i should specify...idling with AIM and winamp only most of the time...
 
Mike Ryna said:
I just checked to see if there was any weird Bios setting I was missing and there wasn't. Just something about Nvidia EX that was disabled that I set to auto.

I think the real question lies in what does 3dmark override that no game does...because it is the only program where I achieve expected performance.
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"Nvidia EX" is a first for me...no clue. I don't know about your particular board but Asus has this useless "peg link mode" (ramps up the pcie bus) that should be disabled. It caused problems for me on my A8N-SLI Deluxe/7900GT KO SC.
 
bad news...now F.E.A.R. won't even play right again after a restart. i guess I was lucky to get 1 day of smooth gaming. ugh.

edit: just benchmarked lost coast and it runs fine (96fps avg). Back before my driver reinstall+Nvidia GPU EX 2 days ago, source and every other game was just as messed up as F.E.A.R. Now, it seems thats not the case.
 
Erm i was getting 59 as well..i did a reinstall and didnt touch the sli settings at all..if you do.it screws up for some reason.
SFR/AFR shouldn't work...Your using GX2 in SLI(aka Quad SLI) Leave it as it is.

Do a fresh reinstall of the driver..pick HQ/Vsync force off..leave the rest as it is..AFIK the new 91.37 has a "Nvidia Recommended" option..it is not there in the 91.31.

Also Switch to the old CP. Go from there. I was getting 59 as well..then after doing a fresh reinstall and leaving the sli settings as it is..and i get 95fps (1280) res.
 
It seems im not the only one getting that problem, it just doesnt seem like both cores are working together. I wish Nvidia had some sort of load-balancing thing so we could see if its working.
 
FEAR will not run worth a shit for me either and I have a better spec than you. Just out of curiosity, are you using a Logitech G15, Razer, or G7 product on your PC?

There is a known issue with those products causing severe problems with FEAR performance.
 
Iam getting the same issue with my G5, works perfect with an MX510. Note I didnt have this problem with my S939 system then again different drivers and 1.02 version of FEAR.

1st thing to try, remove logitech setpoint and G15,G5,G7 mice and plug in another mouse.
 
nope I'm still using an MX500. still trying to figure out what the deal is with this.
 
could it be that games get fucked over if they aren't actually installed but rather copy and pasted? Thats how I'm running F.E.A.R. as I just took it from my old comp instead of actually using the disks. I never knew that this caused a problem but I'm really out of any other ideas.
 
geez dude... thats probably it

did you at least reinstall windows or did you just move the hard drive over
 
no no windows was reinstalled. just i copy and pasted some games over the network.

the thing is if that is the issue then the question is why for the last 2 days up until last night was I able to average 70fps if the installation (or lack thereof) of the game was the issue. this shit is just really weird. ugh.
 
ugh. just ran 3dmark 05 and got an 8000 which is, needless to say, too low. that program is installed perfectly correctly. i was really hoping that it was the fact that fear wasnt installed but now its looking like that isnt the case. fuck.
 
I just clean installed video card drivers and chipset drivers and for some fucking reason it works now. The last couple of days has told me that this probably won't last. Still hopefull though...
 
haha nope. that was a fluke. I can consistently get 35-38fps which is what a single 7900GT would get. It seems like only 1 GPU is working. ugh.
 
omg if this helps...that thread there really needs to be stickied

im at work so ill know in about an hour when i get home
 
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