Hey guys, right now I have a Sony Vaio PC, 80 gig hardrive, with the three video in plugs in the front (red, yellow, white). It also came with a program so I can plug in a VCR and save stuff from the tape onto my computer. Well I'm giving this comp to my dad and gettin a better one. What type of computer would you guys recommend for Video Editing? AMD INtel? I know a big hard drive. Also would I be able to get one of those video inputs like I was talking about for the new computer? If so where? And do you guys have any recommendation on Video editing software? Right now I use video explostion deluxe but it doesn't come with a good DVD making option. Thanks
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I'd get an AMD dual core since it is powerful enough to do just about anything 
. I don't know specifically about the software you're using, but can't you keep on using what you were using and then just use Nero to burn it to DVD?
. I don't know specifically about the software you're using, but can't you keep on using what you were using and then just use Nero to burn it to DVD?I only have a demo version of Nero but I never tried it. Nero is pretty good. Video explosion uses this crap DVD making program, and whenever I try to make it, the sound of the whole video is like a half second off. So when people speak it's delayed. SOO annoying. Thanks though I will defintely try nero and probably get it just to make DVD movies. Now I just need to find somewhere to get that video input so I can plug in a VCR to my comp.
I'd suggest getting more than one HD. If your doing things like re-encoding video it'll go a lot faster if you can use one drive as the source and one as the target, and you can record without putting any load on the system disk. Actually, 3+ is sort of ideal. One for Windows & apps, one for the source, and one for the target. That way your system drive won't be loaded while you're waiting for the video to be processed.
Front video inputs are a pretty rare thing, particularly if you're building. If you don't mind reaching around the back, all you need is a capture card & software. The card will come with software, but of course there are better things out there. Look through the HTPC forum for recommendations on cards & software. You'll probably also need a 2 RCA to 3.5mm "headphone plug" adapter for the audio, since like most computer audio stuff most capture cards use that for thier line in. If the card doesn't come w/ one you can get them at Radio Shack, Best Buy, etc. They're cheap. You could also just use the RF input, but the quality's better on S-video or composite. Most cards have an S-video input w/ an adapter for composite. Use S-Video if your source supports it. Again, better quality.
As far as CPUs go IMHO the pecking order is something like this for video stuff:
A64, P4, PD, A64 X2
It'd be nice to have dual core or at least HT so recording & video processing can run in the background w/o having too much impact on the machine's overall performance. HT is the main reason I put the P4 ahead of the A64, though a lot of video apps tend to like the P4's high clock speeds as well. Pentium Ds top out at 3.2 GHz and thier dual core setup is more like a pair of Xeons in a single package. The X2's cores can talk to each other at high speed directly, while the P-D's cores have to talk over the FSB just like a pair of Xeons in separate sockets would.
If you have enough ram, 2+ disks, and a dual core CPU you should be able to game while recording. Up it to three disks and re-encoding while gaming will probably be alright, unless of course the game or the re-encoder is multithreaded and hogs both cores. HT might be enough for just recording. There will be some slowdown, at least w/ NV cards- NV's latest video drivers use both cores. Should still be playable though.
Front video inputs are a pretty rare thing, particularly if you're building. If you don't mind reaching around the back, all you need is a capture card & software. The card will come with software, but of course there are better things out there. Look through the HTPC forum for recommendations on cards & software. You'll probably also need a 2 RCA to 3.5mm "headphone plug" adapter for the audio, since like most computer audio stuff most capture cards use that for thier line in. If the card doesn't come w/ one you can get them at Radio Shack, Best Buy, etc. They're cheap. You could also just use the RF input, but the quality's better on S-video or composite. Most cards have an S-video input w/ an adapter for composite. Use S-Video if your source supports it. Again, better quality.
As far as CPUs go IMHO the pecking order is something like this for video stuff:
A64, P4, PD, A64 X2
It'd be nice to have dual core or at least HT so recording & video processing can run in the background w/o having too much impact on the machine's overall performance. HT is the main reason I put the P4 ahead of the A64, though a lot of video apps tend to like the P4's high clock speeds as well. Pentium Ds top out at 3.2 GHz and thier dual core setup is more like a pair of Xeons in a single package. The X2's cores can talk to each other at high speed directly, while the P-D's cores have to talk over the FSB just like a pair of Xeons in separate sockets would.
If you have enough ram, 2+ disks, and a dual core CPU you should be able to game while recording. Up it to three disks and re-encoding while gaming will probably be alright, unless of course the game or the re-encoder is multithreaded and hogs both cores. HT might be enough for just recording. There will be some slowdown, at least w/ NV cards- NV's latest video drivers use both cores. Should still be playable though.
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lingding said:
I got a Nero OEM software package with my DVD burner. It is basically just nero express for DVD's.
I'd get a video capture/TV tuner card with a built in Mpeg2 encoder (ATI Theater 550 chipset maybe? ). That should help with the sound and video syncing correctly.
Lots of RAM , lots of hard drives. I do my editing on a P4 with 1G ram and it gets the job done. 5 Hard drives , 2 200G , 1 80G , and 2 40G. the finished project may not take up for then 10G's uncompressed but you need room for all the raw feed and different versions of scenes you may want to save with different effects which you can delete later but it has to go somewhere in the mean time.
Software wise, i recomend Adobe premiere pro and Adobe after effects for fixing all those de-interlacing problems and just cleaning everything up.
some people like pinnicle's products too ( Avid Liquid Pro 7). at that point i think its just a matter of personal preference , but those are the ones you should look into.
sound editing either fruity loops , or i find Audacity decent if im just removing noise or changing levels. depending on the type of editing you are doing , alot of sound editing and redumbing can be avoided by a decent boom mic. simple level changing can be done in most video editors anyway.
hope that helps slightly : )
Software wise, i recomend Adobe premiere pro and Adobe after effects for fixing all those de-interlacing problems and just cleaning everything up.
some people like pinnicle's products too ( Avid Liquid Pro 7). at that point i think its just a matter of personal preference , but those are the ones you should look into.
sound editing either fruity loops , or i find Audacity decent if im just removing noise or changing levels. depending on the type of editing you are doing , alot of sound editing and redumbing can be avoided by a decent boom mic. simple level changing can be done in most video editors anyway.
hope that helps slightly : )
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LostPuppy said:
I am a NOOB extraordinaire and I am also looking to upgrade for video editing purposes...
I currently use Adobe Photo Elements and love it
Great info so far, My PC is from the stoneage I am a moron when it comes to the lingo (I can build a box, but I NEVER know what is better than what and I refuse to keep up on the times when there are people like you that know SO MUCH about everything, that I can ask) with that...
I am looking at an AMD X2 3800 for the CPU... I would think that would be good enough?!?
Recommended to me for a MB was a DFI -http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813136163 and I have NO idea what I am looking at there
I currently only have a 350w PSU and would imagine it's time to upgrade case and PSU to 450?!?
RAM... is 2x512 enough... or do I go with double 1g's?
as far as video card goes... mine is so old I don't even remember just how crappy it is, but I bought it about 6 years ago... so you figure it out lol. How good would I need... I MAY possibly game (if that makes ANY difference, but not much)
I already have 1 200g / 1 160g / a pair of 40g's / and 1 80 g drive that I use for different things that I would be utilizing for this project. I also have 2 somewhat decent DVD burners that would also stay.
Well... that is my pitifull story, try not to be too harsh on me, my expertease lies elsewhere... any info for what would work best would help. Thanks in advance
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thedesertnomad said:
I'd go with 2x1GB. You'll need a new video card also because of the jump to PCI Express. That DFI motherboard looks nice. Just make sure if both cores don't show up that you flash the bios to one supporting dual core. You'd think most boards nowadays would be ready to go, but I got a DFI about a month ago that didn't work out of the box with dual cores
.Case/PSU - maybe the Antec Sonata II? It's like $95 AR at newegg right now. It's a pretty nice case and has a 24 pin 450W PSU ready to go.
thedesertnomad said:
its a decent mobo for the price. as for the ram it depends. if you have the money go for the 2 1gs , if you dont you will be able to edit with the 2 512's.
its already been said but make sure when you get ur new graphics card that its PCI express cause that mobo doesnt have AGP.
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kirbyrj said:I'd go with 2x1GB. You'll need a new video card also because of the jump to PCI Express. That DFI motherboard looks nice. Just make sure if both cores don't show up that you flash the bios to one supporting dual core. You'd think most boards nowadays would be ready to go, but I got a DFI about a month ago that didn't work out of the box with dual cores
Case/PSU - maybe the Antec Sonata II? It's like $95 AR at newegg right now. It's a pretty nice case and has a 24 pin 450W PSU ready to go.
I THANK EVERYONE SO MUCH FOR ALL THIS HELP
makes my descision a lot easier.
***Yeah, I like the look/specs on that Sonata II seems fine escp. for the $
For a non (or very limited gamer) how does this look for a vid card for video editing...?
http://www.newegg.com/product/Product.asp?item=N82E16814133129 ???
Also I was looking at RAM of; http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820220037
Since the price is right and the Mobo has 4 slots, would it be bad to double up on the kit, or should I upgrade to a double 1GB if I want the full 2 GB smack?!?
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If you're not gaming or aren't gaming regularly, the 6600GT is a good mid range card. I'd go with either that or a 6800GS if you want the next bracket up.
I wouldn't bet on 4x512mb working right all the time. While it is supposed to work (albeit at 2T timings or DDR333 speeds), some of it is based on your motherboard and luck of the draw with your CPU. I'd probably get something like this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231039
G.Skill makes some good memory as many can attest to.
I wouldn't bet on 4x512mb working right all the time. While it is supposed to work (albeit at 2T timings or DDR333 speeds), some of it is based on your motherboard and luck of the draw with your CPU. I'd probably get something like this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231039
G.Skill makes some good memory as many can attest to.
You guys have said, for video editing, I would need like 2 300g hard drives, 1 150, 1 40, 1 80, why is this? I know that you need one to get the footage on there, another to edit on, and the last to get a finalized product, but why the extras? And also, just asking, what do you guys use to get your footage on the computer? Lets say you want footage from your camcorder, how do you guys get it on your computer? What program do you use? Thanks
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If you are doing DV editing, you only need one extra hard drive. You'll find more time is spent CPU bound during the encoding process than anything else.
One drive for your OS, one for a capture volume.
One drive for your OS, one for a capture volume.