Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Announced for release on 11/11/11.

Riddleofsteel

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I think, *THINK* I got my "corrupted" saves from a 20+ hour previous character back to life. What did the trick was completely removing ENB/Enhanced Shaders/FXAA/any extra graphics dll mod. Which really sucks for me, because I really loved the shaders by Tapioks. Hoping for a workaround...

By the way, I was so close to starting over anyway, should I just start over? My old (current) character is a level 21 Redguard warrior that can't enchant and can hardly smith worth a damn. I have shield and light armor perk points spent, but I wear heavy armor and dual wield. Thoughts?
 

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Great... not only did 1.2 break the eyefinity fix, but I'm getting green flickers across the screen now. Sigh.
 

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Figured out today that if you are exploring alchemy you can mix 3 unknown potions at once to figure them out. It actually works a lot better.
 

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I literally cannot stop getting CTD. No error message, just closes. I bought a six pack so I could play and have a few beers...but I guess not tonight. Frustrated, I really love this game.
 

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I literally cannot stop getting CTD. No error message, just closes. I bought a six pack so I could play and have a few beers...but I guess not tonight. Frustrated, I really love this game.
Was it running fine before today? Patch may have jacked your .exe if you were using the 4Gb fix.
 

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I literally cannot stop getting CTD. No error message, just closes. I bought a six pack so I could play and have a few beers...but I guess not tonight. Frustrated, I really love this game.
Did you try running as admin? That helped me for some bugs.
 

MavericK

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So I started actually doing the "main" quest like, and once you get to High Hrothgar and start learning more about dragons, I've noticed that there are a SHIT TON more random dragon encounters. I was wondering before what people meant when they said they were everywhere, especially when you fast travel to an open town, because there were hardly ever any for me. Apparently starting down that quest line triggers a great deal more of them to spawn, because they're appearing about 10 times more frequently than before.

Also, regarding Blackreach:

What the fuck is up with the Crimson Nirnroot quest? Collect 30 Crimson Nirnroot from this goddamn massive cavern? Seriously? Talk about a time waster. Is the reward even good? Seems like the most lazy quest ever. Even the one in Riften with handing out pamphlets to 20 people wasn't as bad. Is there any sort of logic to where the Crimson Nirnroot plants are, or is it completely random?
Also, I REALLY hate it when I think Lydia is following me but she got stuck somewhere, only a half hour later to find out she actually died somewhere without me ever knowing. I have to revert back to an earlier save and redo all my work. Fucking annoying. I gave her the best Dragonscale armor with enchantments, ring and necklace, and awesome weapons, and she still seems to die just about as fast as ever. Does any of that stuff actually affect her, or is it just for show? I know she can use the weapon powers properly (gave her a staff once and she went nuts with it, which is kind of a problem because they run out of charge really fast with her) but armor doesn't seem to really help her at all..
 

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Changed TESV.exe to run as admin, no CTD as of yet. Thanks for that piece of info. I was having CTD before the 1.2, but not nearly as bad... was happening about every 10 minutes. I'm also not using the 4GB change either.
 

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Also, I REALLY hate it when I think Lydia is following me but she got stuck somewhere, only a half hour later to find out she actually died somewhere without me ever knowing. I have to revert back to an earlier save and redo all my work. Fucking annoying. I gave her the best Dragonscale armor with enchantments, ring and necklace, and awesome weapons, and she still seems to die just about as fast as ever. Does any of that stuff actually affect her, or is it just for show? I know she can use the weapon powers properly (gave her a staff once and she went nuts with it, which is kind of a problem because they run out of charge really fast with her) but armor doesn't seem to really help her at all..
You can resurrect NPCs using the console using the "ressurect" command, no need to revert saves. Either click on them with the console open or find their refID and use the PRID command to select them first.

Companions do not level with your character, their level is set the first time you meet them. So for most people Lydia will be a very low level. You can reset them to your current level via the console, see here -
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Followers
 

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Also, regarding Blackreach:

What the fuck is up with the Crimson Nirnroot quest? Collect 30 Crimson Nirnroot from this goddamn massive cavern? Seriously? Talk about a time waster. Is the reward even good? Seems like the most lazy quest ever. Even the one in Riften with handing out pamphlets to 20 people wasn't as bad. Is there any sort of logic to where the Crimson Nirnroot plants are, or is it completely random?
If you played Oblivion, Nirnroot was a rare(ish) type of plant that you had to collect all over Cyrodill. The crimson Nirnroot quest is kind of a pseudo easter-egg quest that helps gamers re-live memories of walking the shores of every damn body of water to try and find the last few specimen.
 

MavericK

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You can resurrect NPCs using the console using the "ressurect" command, no need to revert saves. Either click on them with the console open or find their refID and use the PRID command to select them first.

Companions do not level with your character, their level is set the first time you meet them. So for most people Lydia will be a very low level. You can reset them to your current level via the console, see here -
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Followers
Thank you very much for that info. I hate having to use the console but I think it's acceptable to fix poor game mechanics. In FO3 I remember I made Dogmeat invulnerable for the same reason. I wonder if such a command exists in Skyrim?

To be honest, if Lydia didn't carry shit for me I'd probably just go solo.
 

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Thank you very much for that info. I hate having to use the console but I think it's acceptable to fix poor game mechanics. In FO3 I remember I made Dogmeat invulnerable for the same reason. I wonder if such a command exists in Skyrim?

To be honest, if Lydia didn't carry shit for me I'd probably just go solo.
You can set NPCs as essential the same way as FO3/FONV and Oblivion, see the console command page -

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Console

Followers are not fully essentially in Skyrim, it is explained in detail on the previous page I linked, so I won't go into it. The only fully essential followers by default are ones related to certain quests.

You can always switch to followers you meet later in the game as well if you don't want to "reset" Lydia to a higher level.
 

MavericK

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Ah, alright. I'll probably just do setessential and make her closer to my level. Being level 43, though, she might be kinda overpowered.
 

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After starting a new character using clothes only, no hp levels, and I guess the magic resistance bug due to the patch, the thrill of easily dieing due to a mistake is making the combat much more fun for me. This was compared to running around with 80% damage reduction and 500+hp before.
 

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I've been using Annekke Crag-Jumper as my main Companion...she's excellent in combat and doesn't get in the way...I'm getting bored with her though and will probably change up soon

 

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After starting a new character using clothes only, no hp levels, and I guess the magic resistance bug due to the patch, the thrill of easily dieing due to a mistake is making the combat much more fun for me. This was compared to running around with 80% damage reduction and 500+hp before.
Yep, I'm playing with base armor (no smithing upgrades, but still some dragonscale and daedra pieces for the looks) on Master for the same reason... Getting one shotted by a Drauger Death Lord with a bow is much more fun when my bow dishes out over 600 damage and pretty much one shots most of the lower enemies without sneak.

One CTD after fast traveling, 1.1 patch, cat 11.11a's, 150hrs in between the gf and I. Better than most bethesda games thus far!
 

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Okay, I'm having a little issue with the thieve's guild quest

I finished everything- returned the Skeleton Key and alll that. Went back to the guild and had a 10 second conversation with Brinjolf (sp?) but nothing changed. Didn't get any info about improving the Ragged Flaggon and no one seems to know I'm guildmaster
 

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Okay, I'm having a little issue with the thieve's guild quest

I finished everything- returned the Skeleton Key and alll that. Went back to the guild and had a 10 second conversation with Brinjolf (sp?) but nothing changed. Didn't get any info about improving the Ragged Flaggon and no one seems to know I'm guildmaster
Pretty sure you have to complete some of their guild side-quests like burglary and such. then head back to Brinjolf.
 

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Purple textures everywhere now and my first CTD in days.

Yep, must be patched. :p
 

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I had a quasi ninja update happen to me.

A few days ago I had turned off auto update on Skyrim in Steam. I'd been making a point of constantly checking that setting. It held the entire time as best I could tell.

But get a load of this: I fire up Skyrim last night getting ready to play and lo and behold I find out that my TESV.exe has suddenly disappeared off the face of the Earth without any intervention by me whatsoever.

So to make a long story short I was left with no other recourse but to hit "verify file integrity" and of course that meant I took down 1.2.

Amazingly enough, I had a perfectly fine 2 hour game session but I figured I'd warn people or at least learn what the hell I might have done wrong.
 

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Yes, the "do not update" setting for Skyrim does not work, It will still update your game.
 

Q-BZ

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Yes, the "do not update" setting for Skyrim does not work, It will still update your game.
What's strange is that it didn't finish the update job. I had to do it. All it did was conveniently make my .exe disappear.


So far, so good. Last night I played and I must've killed 4 dragons and I never saw them flying backwards, either. *crosses fingers*
 

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Yes, the "do not update" setting for Skyrim does not work, It will still update your game.
Just wondering, since this has been bugging me. Is there anything we can do about this? I might just have to go back and read the end user agreement but, I would think there has to be some precedent about this. I don't know where there right to the software begins and my right of ownership begins but I would think steam would not have the right to edit content on my computer without my expressed approval. Any thoughts on this? I know its a vary nit picky thing but it bugs me that my game is being edited without my consent.
 

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Just wondering, since this has been bugging me. Is there anything we can do about this? I might just have to go back and read the end user agreement but, I would think there has to be some precedent about this. I don't know where there right to the software begins and my right of ownership begins but I would think steam would not have the right to edit content on my computer without my expressed approval. Any thoughts on this? I know its a vary nit picky thing but it bugs me that my game is being edited without my consent.
The only thing you can do is either run Steam in offline mode and/or physically disconnect the Internet if you've protected your Skyrim up to this point.

Past that? We can pound sand and eat it because Steam is god and we're all supposed to bow down and not worry about any of these things, right Fail?
 

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The only thing you can do is either run Steam in offline mode and/or physically disconnect the Internet if you've protected your Skyrim up to this point.

Past that? We can pound sand and eat it because Steam is god and we're all supposed to bow down and not worry about any of these things, right Fail?
I will try these things, well not the eating sand part. I don't think that would end well. I guess I am looking for steam to "fix" things they don't see as an issue. Unless I can prove I have been harmed I doubt this will go anywhere, even if it would be a violation of my end user agreement.
 

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I will try these things, well not the eating sand part. I don't think that would end well. I guess I am looking for steam to "fix" things they don't see as an issue. Unless I can prove I have been harmed I doubt this will go anywhere, even if it would be a violation of my end user agreement.
I say this with a chuckle but you could always fire up a support ticket and try and engage them in dialog.

Good luck with that. ;)
 

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There is a thread on the official Bethesda Skyrim forums on how to "roll back" to 1.1. It involves downloading a couple of .esm files from megaupload.com. Just a PSA, use at your own risk and it is not my problem if you fuck something up.
 

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I say this with a chuckle but you could always fire up a support ticket and try and engage them in dialog.

Good luck with that. ;)
That thought had crossed my mind. I just wondered if anyone here had done that before for anything similar and if there was anything to be gained. If they could fix the auto update that would be great but I don't want to bug there support staff for things that they cannot do. I just have a feeling all I would get done with a support ticket is making someone job miserable for a while and getting an apology for my inconvenience. If I could justify that there actions were a violation of my property, that they had caused me damages and that there end user agreement could not protect them from recourse. Then possibly they would fix the auto update issue, or at least revise there end user agreement. Its funny how the possibility of legal recourse will get people to do things. But it would be a difficult thing to prove damages to my property, and probably cost more than its worth to make a case.
 

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There is a thread on the official Bethesda Skyrim forums on how to "roll back" to 1.1. It involves downloading a couple of .esm files from megaupload.com. Just a PSA, use at your own risk and it is not my problem if you fuck something up.
That is not a bad idea, and that would probably help my stability issues. But my problem is not with Skyrim being a little buggy, and with the updates not fixing much yet that sort of thing happens. My issue is that Steam cannot respect my settings to not auto update. The idea that they are in effect trying to insist that they have the right to edit files on my computer that they do not own, with out my consent and in direct violation of my expressed wishes.
 

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Random thought. Think there will be any mods to allow a player to ride a dragon?

Seeing as there is a point in the main quest line where you do ride one, I was wondering if it wouldn't be fairly simple to incorporate it. I am willing to admit I don't know much about modding TES games, and that I regularly have understated the difficulty of coding projects in the past.

I just think it would be a fun mod.
 

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That is not a bad idea, and that would probably help my stability issues. But my problem is not with Skyrim being a little buggy, and with the updates not fixing much yet that sort of thing happens. My issue is that Steam cannot respect my settings to not auto update. The idea that they are in effect trying to insist that they have the right to edit files on my computer that they do not own, with out my consent and in direct violation of my expressed wishes.
Agreed, but this is not the first game I have had this issue with. As far as I know the developer can ask that the "no update" be bypassed. I'd be willing to bet that if you read through the Steam EULA it says it can do exactly that at anytime and by using their product you give them permission to do so.

Not that I agree with that, and why I bypass it when needed.

Random thought. Think there will be any mods to allow a player to ride a dragon?

Seeing as there is a point in the main quest line where you do ride one, I was wondering if it wouldn't be fairly simple to incorporate it. I am willing to admit I don't know much about modding TES games, and that I regularly have understated the difficulty of coding projects in the past.

I just think it would be a fun mod.
Once the creation set goes live I would not be surprised if that is one of the early mods. That would be sweet, even if it was "on rails" and only took from main cities like fast travel.
 

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Maybe if it were on rails it could work with enemies around. Its not like a dragon couldn't get in and out of a battle while taking care of it's self.

I would prefer being able to attack while riding though... Possibly only being able to use shouts to attack, but having a reduced cool down while riding. Dragons themselves are capable of being killed by giants and bandits and such, it might not even break the game balance to make this an option.
 
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MavericK

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After starting a new character using clothes only, no hp levels, and I guess the magic resistance bug due to the patch, the thrill of easily dieing due to a mistake is making the combat much more fun for me. This was compared to running around with 80% damage reduction and 500+hp before.
So I take it you are using enchants to get 500+ hp? Let me ask you something, then. Is it better to enchant something with a +30% bonus to HP regeneration, or just enchant stuff to give you a + to overall HP points?
 
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