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Alright... So I have two 1.7ghz 12core g34 es chips
I found with them 4x4gb ecc and reg ram...

I have been tempted to grab a 2p g34board off newegg and see how those guys overclock...
Currently I found a proto that could take them and have been folding on them... so I know they are stable...

as far as $$/ppd goes... not having to fork out for the cpus and ram is rather a nice headstart... I even have 3 146k 15ksas drives at home I got on ebay on a project that didn't work out... lol...

Still 2p g34 boards are rather expensive for not knowing if your gonna get more than stock...

Is there a way to figure out if the es chips are unlocked?
would it be a better idea to split them up and spend $230 on a 1p board...
I could split the ppd and power bill with another teamate lol...
 
buying 2 boards is probably the more expensive route. even with the high costs of a dual socket board, it means you have to buy an extra psu and stuff, and dual socket g34 boards can be ~400$ vs $460 for 2x 1p boards. I'd get the dually but i really don't know too much about overclocking the g34's
 
get a 2p board and overclock them. with good cooling 3Ghz should be no problem.

if you can get your hands on those new g34 noctua coolers you may be able to reach even higher.

there was a guy that got 3Ghz 1.27v on the stock cooler but he was running into cooling issues so it kept downclocking..

all ES magny cours are unlocked. but talk to 10e he knows how to overclock them.

also if you wanted to split the cost with a teammate you could run 1 processor under your name and run the other processor under a teammates name and split the cost of the board. if you can get the processors to 3Ghz or higher your talking about SR-2 numbers on a single processor.

also make sure you are using the quad channel ram on each processor, makes a HUGE difference in PPD. its the one reason the magny cours can compete with the xeons in F@H.
 
Sounds like with proper cooling you could end up with a pretty high-end bigadv rig. I didn't know 3ghz was realistic on 12 cores but 24 x 2.8ghz = 67.2Ghz vs an SR2 with 12 x 3.8 = 45.6ghz. Even with the architectural disadvantage it can't be that far behind, plus there is the quad channel ram.
 
Zink said:
Sounds like with proper cooling you could end up with a pretty high-end bigadv rig. I didn't know 3ghz was realistic on 12 cores but 24 x 2.8ghz = 67.2Ghz vs an SR2 with 12 x 3.8 = 45.6ghz. Even with the architectural disadvantage it can't be that far behind, plus there is the quad channel ram.
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SR2 is technically 24 as far as F@H is concerned..... ;) so your math is a bit off there
 
ok... im in ignorance here... I know because of the density of the ram 4gb sticks... its quad rank...

but I only have 4 sticks... 2 sets of ram slots... doesn't that put me in dual channel mode?
Its such a pain to figure out what opteron you just dug out of a proto server on scrap lol... the es markings don't find results on the web 99% of the time... you have to just find a spare system and test it...lol...

and one last thing... an overclock like that.... how much power am I looking at?
have a feeling my 750w psu is not gonna cut it...

and what case would "this" fit in...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131643

looks like I am gonna need to start a FS thread to fund this new project :)
 
W.Feather said:
SR2 is technically 24 as far as F@H is concerned..... ;) so your math is a bit off there
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It depends how you look at it. There are only 12 CPU cores and Hyper-Threading is an architectural feature that ads few transistors and increases efficiency. To F@H it gets 24 cores/threads but each does not run at full speed. If you are looking at raw clock rated then the numbers are right, its just Intel's architecture is much better for SMP than AMD. When we are talking about Bulldozer than we can really debate how many cores we have.
 
jebo_4jc said:
My understanding is that overclocking G34 is painful. Ask 10e here about his experience. I assume you have ES chips right? There's some sort of software overclocking method that I wouldn't call straightforward.
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software oc.... oh boy... 10e care to comment?
 
Patriot said:
ok... im in ignorance here... I know because of the density of the ram 4gb sticks... its quad rank...

but I only have 4 sticks... 2 sets of ram slots... doesn't that put me in dual channel mode?
Its such a pain to figure out what opteron you just dug out of a proto server on scrap lol... the es markings don't find results on the web 99% of the time... you have to just find a spare system and test it...lol...

and one last thing... an overclock like that.... how much power am I looking at?
have a feeling my 750w psu is not gonna cut it...

and what case would "this" fit in...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131643

looks like I am gonna need to start a FS thread to fund this new project :)
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the magny cours use 2 dual channel ddr3 IMC's since the magny cour is actually 2 istanbul's combined which is why they create so much heat. so when you use dual channel(2 banks filled) its only using the one of the IMC's. when you use quad channel(4 banks filled for each processor) it uses both IMC's which combines into quad channel DDR3. the difference between dual and quad channel something like 5-10k PPD depending on the processor clocks.

a 750w psu should have absolutely no issues with the processors when overclocked.


Patriot said:
software oc.... oh boy... 10e care to comment?
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read through his thread posted further up and then send him a pm about it. probably the quickest way to get a response from him.
 
corsair 750, antec 750. seasonic 750. pretty much all the big name ones are good.

personally i prefer the corsair 750TX or AX750. leaning more toward the AX750 since its a 80 plus gold PSU. seasonic also has the X750/850/1200 which are very similar design's to the corsair AX line. and if you have an antec 1200/p183/p193 case the antec CP-850 is a nice psu(i currently have one sitting in my closet) big ass power supply though.
 
I have a pcp&c in my main rig... a tx750 that killed two mobos...(need to rma it) and tx650 thats in my secondary...
 
APOLLO said:
I've been wanting to ask you, what 750W PSU would you recommend?
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If you've been wanting to ask me then you should ask me, but you should do it somewhere else because this thread really isn't the place for it.
 
I am on the beta team... there will be changes happening tomorrow... this dual 1.7ghz 12cores x2 will be unleashed for greater things :)
unfortunately I can't tell individual ppd of unreleased projects... guess you can try and figure out by how my stats change :p
 
Patriot said:
I am on the beta team... there will be changes happening tomorrow... this dual 1.7ghz 12cores x2 will be unleashed for greater things :)
unfortunately I can't tell individual ppd of unreleased projects... guess you can try and figure out by how my stats change :p
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So did this just become the thread to watch or what? :eek:
 
Nathan_P said:
Also be on the look out for shiny new WU, possibly even the fabled 2689 that has been under test for a while
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right now I am trying to figure out the right cores and right flags...
well... I guessed right... picked up a beta unit :)
 
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soo... how do you calculate ppd with k factor ...
 
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