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Droid v Palm Pre Plus

Palm Pre Plus or Droid

  • Palm Pre Plus

    Votes: 18 16.7%

  • Droid

    Votes: 90 83.3%
  • Total voters
    108
i've recently become a little frustrated with my Pre (Sprint), because the GPS wasn't working as fast as I'd like, and even though they do updates, I don't feel like it improves much more. But this weekend, I went into the Sprint store to get the power button fixed on my wife's pre (first gen pres had some issues with power button. it was fixed in about three minutes.) After playing with all the other phones, i remember why I still like the Pre.

I think the feel of the keyboard is great, and WebOS is very smooth. Yes, the Pre is not perfect, but it's a pretty nice phone.
 
The bigger issues are not the Pre itself but Palm's QC and uncertain future...
 
Sort of off topic but imagine if HTC buys palm! N1 hardware running webOS = best phone easily.
 
Bought a Pre Plus.

IT sucked. SLow. GPS didn't work. Looked OK. Call quality was shit. Couldn't hear from the speakers = unacceptable even for the basics. Battery drops to 50% after like 1/2 a day of it being off the charger, with minimal to no use. It was shit. Pure shit.

Paid $restocking.

Got a Droid.

Found that the Droid is a 100x better phone.

Happily ever after.
 
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Palms are great when they actually work.

the os is great and the browser is quality as well

Terrible battery life, even while not using the phone the battery is terrible even for a smartphone

25% of them are DOA's, another 25% break sometime in the first 6 months
 
DirtyB said:
Palms are great when they actually work.

the os is great and the browser is quality as well

Terrible battery life, even while not using the phone the battery is terrible even for a smartphone

25% of them are DOA's, another 25% break sometime in the first 6 months
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Mine broke 3 weeks into having it and guess what I exchanged it in for?

DROID
 
Disposed said:
Even that article explains that its perfectly normal. They have run thier course and its time to make room for the new hotness.
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Only problem, there is no new Palm hotness and they have certainly run their course.

I really wanted to love this phone (as a sysadmin who supports a wide range of smartphones), but when Palm decided to kill their established model of syncing directly with Outlook via a cable they put the final nail in their coffin, regardless of how sexy the OS could ever be.

Every single Palm user in my office is now on a Blackberry as a result (which still syncs to the desktop via cable). I use a Droid, but then again I don't have to sync literally thousands of business contacts over the air and I don't mind using gmail to manage my contacts.
 
I think a lot of you are trying to over-simplify things, Android is better at certain things than the iPhone OS, and vice versa, same for Palm's WebOS. I think Apple's OS is probably easier to use overall, even if it's way more restrictive (you either buy into Apple's philosophy when it comes to some things, or bust)... I'd certainly recommend it over an Android phone to a lot of neophytes that don't really need much from their phone but still want a smartphone.

Android's definitely more tweakable, which obviously appeals to the geek in all of us, it's also more capable and elegant in some ways, but it needs more work in other ways... WebOS has it's own charm, it's just been let down by the lack of additional devices running it, just like Android when it first came out on the G1... Google probably made a better choice than Palm in that sense by partnering with lots of hardware manufacturers.
 
WebOS as a platform is my favorite of the 3. Unfortunately its tied to some of the worst hardware i have ever seen.

If HTC bought palm and started making webOS phones i would buy one in a heartbeat. As it is now with pres breaking left and right its just sad.
 
Yeah, I was very excited about WebOS originally, 'specially after reading Anand's article on the Pre... Had the AT&T Pre come out last year I would've probably bought it (before Palm's future became more uncertain and the QC issues got further out of hand)... Now I wouldn't really consider it w/so many nice Android phones out there.

Classic story really, Palm should've seen that developing the hardware themselves a mistake... That only works for relatively small companies like Apple who have a following that's willing to accept their design philosophy above all else, and even then it took a lot of dealing w/AT&T.
 
Impulse said:
Yeah, I was very excited about WebOS originally, 'specially after reading Anand's article on the Pre... Had the AT&T Pre come out last year I would've probably bought it (before Palm's future became more uncertain and the QC issues got further out of hand)... Now I wouldn't really consider it w/so many nice Android phones out there.

Classic story really, Palm should've seen that developing the hardware themselves a mistake... That only works for relatively small companies like Apple who have a following that's willing to accept their design philosophy above all else, and even then it took a lot of dealing w/AT&T.
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Apple is like 10 times larger than Palm. So more likely, only larger companies can get away with making their own hardware.
 
Well, I was speaking in relative terms, Apple may be 10 times larger but they're still not the size of say... MS, Google, etc. You don't see those companies trying to limit themselves by being the sole source of hardware for their OS... Apple has a very narrow focus, as mass market as the iPhone is. Palm couldn't really hope to replicate that. /shrug
 
Hmm, guess you're right... Looking at their Wikipedia entries (yea not terribly accurate but w/e)... Apple devices are not used by nearly as many people as Google services tho, I would think. Maybe I'm wrong... Regardless, I don't think anyone but Apple could've pulled something off like the iPhone.

You need their cult following or image or wow factor to pull it off, call it what you want... They also had the advantage of being the first to really innovate upon a category that had grown stagnant. I don't think it's necessarily a good thing that a sole company has so much control over their platform and that there's only a single device at any one time within it, but they're probably one of the few companies that could march to that tune. Others would disagree, the iPhone's certainly a good fit for a lot of people.

Palm's hardware had been stale for years, even when they started using WinMo. Then they decided to focus heavily on WebOS... Why they thought they could push out solid-hardware at the same time is beyond me. Apple did it, sure, but they were either gonna have their way w/o compromising their design (in all aspects, hardware + software) or they were just not gonna launch...

Even then the original iPhone had many faults... Much higher price, NO apps, no hardware buttons besides Home, no copy/paste, no MMS; but what it did do, it did incredibly well. Problem w/Palm is, you can say all of that about WebOS, and none of it about the Pre itself (other than the CPU, 'least they didn't fumble that, 'till the Pixi...), and at the same time they're facing much tougher competition than the 1st iPhone was facing.

Too little too late, and they've decided to limit their OS adoption rate by manufacturing hardware themselves (and even limit device adoption rate by only partnering w/Sprint originally). There's still hope if they reverse course or someone buys 'em out tho... But one or more of these smartphones OS won't be around by 2012. Market just won't support WM7, Apple, Android, Blackberry and WebOS (let alone Symbian, Meego, etc).
 
I think you are wrong about only apple pulling off the hardware and software trick. The fact of the matter is that is how it was done for a great deal of time. We have to thank the world's need of convergence for the way it has been done most recently. We need all of our devices to work with one another so now the software is becoming compatible with many devices. Before smart phones every device ran it's own OS specifically designed for it's own hardware.

What apple did was see a market that was emerging and released a product far superior to any of it's competitors that it gained a foothold on the market. How long have people been looking for the iphone killer? Where Palm went wrong was it's vision. They developed a great OS but did not put it in great hardware. Can you imagine if they were the first platform to have the snapdragon processor, a physical keyboard that was large enough for a full sized adult male to use, an expandable source of memory and Web OS released on all the networks? I think they faulted by looking at Apple and staying to close to that business model. not seeing that the market now has changed and they needed to not copy and old plan but come up with something new.
 
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