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Dream PC 2005

Cannibal Corpse

Cannibal Corpse

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Here is my Dream PC 2005:

AMD FX-57 CPU
DFI nF4 SLI-DR MoBo
4GB Crucial Ballistix DDR-RAM
2X BFG 7800GTX Watercooled VIDEO
Gaming Bomb II Case
2X WD 74GB Raptor HDD
Enermax 600W AIW SLI Ready PSU
Dell 2405 (Dual)
Creative X-Fi Fatal1ty Sound Card



Can someone really afford these? :)
 
Drop the Raptors. Add a good SCSI card and pick up four Seagate Cheetah 148GB 15,000RPM; put them in a RAID 10.

Also, if you want to overclock, cut down to a pair of 1GB Ballistix modules, since you're always limited by the slowest stick you get, and there's no use for 4GB ram anyway.
 
I would change DFI nF4 SLI-DR MoBo for the ASUS one, the DFI nF4 SLI-DR MoBo is not water cooler friendly.
 
not bad but i would ditch one of the raptors and get a 400gb storage drive. then you can run your programs and OS off , the raptor and still have alot of space for your files/music/ISOs/movies/pr0n

also, that case isn't that nice in my opinon. i would go with a p180 or a lian-li, and don't forget the PSU. something along the lines of a PC Power and Cooling SLI should fit in nicely

you might want to add 2x dell 2405 LCD's, and a creative x-fi 7.1 sound card
 
Mine would definately be:

AMD Athlon X2 4800+
MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI (Loyal to MSI. I've had one of their boards ticking for around 5 years where as my brothers Epox just died in around 3 years)

4GB Crucial Ballistix DDR-RAM
2X EVGA 7800GTX KO
Antec Super Lanboy
4X WD 74GB Raptor HDD (raid 0+1)
Best PCP&C PSU
Dunno what optical drive.
Water Cooling to boot.

If I did have that I'd probably need something bigger than a Lanboy.
 
compslckr said:
not bad but i would ditch one of the raptors and get a 400gb storage drive. then you can run your programs and OS off , the raptor and still have alot of space for your files/music/ISOs/movies/pr0n

also, that case isn't that nice in my opinon. i would go with a p180 or a lian-li, and don't forget the PSU. something along the lines of a PC Power and Cooling SLI should fit in nicely

you might want to add 2x dell 2405 LCD's, and a creative x-fi 7.1 sound card
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There are good PSU's besides PC Power and Cooling. Not everyone wants to pay $250 on up for a damn PSU. Not saying they aren't good, but you can do just as well for less money. Functionally anyway.

I'd keep the Raptors, depending on your storage needs, if you're going all out on a performance rig, and can't afford SCSI the Raptor is still the best drive to go with.

Did you mean get two more Dell LCD's or just stick with two?

I agree on the sound card.

Xeneize said:
I would change DFI nF4 SLI-DR MoBo for the ASUS one, the DFI nF4 SLI-DR MoBo is not water cooler friendly.
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I'd agree, but not because of water cooling which the OP might not be doing, but for the sake of stability.

Rhetoric said:
Mine would definately be:

AMD Athlon X2 4800+
MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI (Loyal to MSI. I've had one of their boards ticking for around 5 years where as my brothers Epox just died in around 3 years)

4GB Crucial Ballistix DDR-RAM
2X EVGA 7800GTX KO
Antec Super Lanboy
4X WD 74GB Raptor HDD (raid 0+1)
Best PCP&C PSU
Dunno what optical drive.
Water Cooling to boot.

If I did have that I'd probably need something bigger than a Lanboy.
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Definately agree on the choice of the 4800+. I'd ditch the idea of the Lanboy. It's got a cheesy front on it, and not very large inside.

The best PCP&C PSU last time I talked to the company was the 850Watt model which was $449.99 which is too damn much for a PSU if you don't need that much power. For the above rig, you wouldn't. So I'd ditch that idea.
 
2x AMD Opteron 254 (2.8ghz)
Tyan Thunder K8WE
8x Kingston 2gb sticks
2x ASUS ATOP Extreme 7800GTX
2x Seagate Cheetah 15K.4 147GB SCSI
4x HITACHI Deskstar 7K500 500gb
PC Power & Cooling 850 SSI SLI
Vapo's on the cpu's and a chilled water system on the 7800's
Caseless
 
Actually I am not going to even use this PC for anything else, rather than plaing games, literally just games (like a game console).

I would unistall all the unnecessary Windows components (MSN, Movie Maker, wallpapers, etc. you get the picure).

Just games in D:\
 
Flak Monkey said:
2x AMD Opteron 254 (2.8ghz)
Tyan Thunder K8WE
8x Kingston 4gb sticks
2x ASUS ATOP Extreme 7800GTX
2x Seagate Cheetah 15K.4 147GB SCSI
4x HITACHI Deskstar 7K500 500gb
PC Power & Cooling 850 SSI SLI
Vapo's on the cpu's and a chilled water system on the 7800's
Caseless
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Got news for you, the Asus ATOP Extreme 7800GTX's have NV5 Silencers on them. Which will not fit the K8WE. There isn't enough room between the PEG slots.

The K8WE also doesn't support 4GB memory modules. It maxes out at 16GB of memory. It only supports 2GB modules on down.

Which I'd like to point out that all these posts containing 4GB of ram don't take into consideration that Windows XP Pro 32bit will have issues with that much ram. The PAE switch will slow down the OS and 4GB of ram is overkill. If your going to use Windows XP Pro x64 Edition, then of course disreguard.

I am also sure there is a max budget for this system. If so, knowing it would help when recommended parts. That is if the original poster actually intends to build this thing.
 
Sir-Fragalot said:
Got news for you, the Asus ATOP Extreme 7800GTX's have NV5 Silencers on them. Which will not fit the K8WE. There isn't enough room between the PEG slots.

The K8WE also doesn't support 4GB memory modules. It maxes out at 16GB of memory. It only supports 2GB modules on down.

Which I'd like to point out that all these posts containing 4GB of ram don't take into consideration that Windows XP Pro 32bit will have issues with that much ram. The PAE switch will slow down the OS and 4GB of ram is overkill. If your going to use Windows XP Pro x64 Edition, then of course disreguard.

I am also sure there is a max budget for this system. If so, knowing it would help when recommended parts.
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I didn't realize there was a budget on the system or that anyone was even considering buying this system. I was just posting a dream system as there was no text in the original post and thats what I thought we were doing. I edited my post to say 2gb models before you posted but I'm sure you were working on your post when I edited it. I also said I would be watercooling the 7800's and I only choose the asus cards because they are cherry picked cores.
 
Flak Monkey said:
Skip water and go with a vapo or custom phase change built by chilly1.
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qft

WATER IS LAME!

get phase change and get an extra 300-500mhz out of your core :D
 
Sir-Fragalot said:
The best PCP&C PSU last time I talked to the company was the 850Watt model which was $449.99 which is too damn much for a PSU if you don't need that much power. For the above rig, you wouldn't. So I'd ditch that idea.
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Its a DREAM rig :rolleyes:
I'd change the following BTW: X2 4800+, SLI-DR Expert when it comes out, change the 7800GTX's to the eVGA's or XFX's that come clocked at 490/1300, ditch the Raptors and get some 15K SCSI, PCP&C 850W, three-stage cascade with dual-head evap for the 7800GTX's, and cascade for CPU.
 
HiJon89 said:
three-stage cascade with dual-head evap for the 7800GTX's, and cascade for CPU.
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i'd switch that around.. especially cause i'm fairly certain that the nvidia cards have a cold bug of some sort, bios/temp sensor related though
 
(cf)Eclipse said:
i'd switch that around.. especially cause i'm fairly certain that the nvidia cards have a cold bug of some sort, bios/temp sensor related though
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BIOS update fixed that, and I wouldn't put the 3-stage on the CPU because of cold bug, evap temps less than -90C and you're screwed.
 
Flak Monkey said:
I didn't realize there was a budget on the system or that anyone was even considering buying this system. I was just posting a dream system as there was no text in the original post and thats what I thought we were doing. I edited my post to say 2gb models before you posted but I'm sure you were working on your post when I edited it. I also said I would be watercooling the 7800's and I only choose the asus cards because they are cherry picked cores.
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I see. Well if there is no budget, SCSI is the way to go for the drives. I'd definately go dual core with phase change cooling.
 
HiJon89 said:
BIOS update fixed that, and I wouldn't put the 3-stage on the CPU because of cold bug, evap temps less than -90C and you're screwed.
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we can compromise, double stage on both :D
i think a double stage would approach -90c, but if tuned right, can be prevented from breaking the cold bug limit :cool:
 
Dual 7800GTX in SLI for video. WC or phase change for 'em, volt mod them, push them as far as they can go. Least if I had the money for the setup, and the money to replace the cards if I happened to push them just a little too far.
 
I'd get two opteron 275's, with four fujitsu mau's @ 15k rpm. Now THAT would be a screamer.
 
Cannibal Corpse said:
Here is my Dream PC 2005:

AMD FX-57 CPU
DFI nF4 SLI-DR MoBo
4GB Crucial Ballistix DDR-RAM
2X BFG 7800GTX Watercooled VIDEO
Gaming Bomb II Case
2X WD 74GB Raptor HDD
Enermax 600W AIW SLI Ready PSU
Dell 2405 (Dual)
Creative X-Fi Fatal1ty Sound Card



Can someone really afford these? :)
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No point in 4 gigs of RAM either. 2 - 3 would be more then enough.
 
Rhetoric said:
Mine would definately be:

AMD Athlon X2 4800+
MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI (Loyal to MSI. I've had one of their boards ticking for around 5 years where as my brothers Epox just died in around 3 years)

4GB Crucial Ballistix DDR-RAM
2X EVGA 7800GTX KO
Antec Super Lanboy
4X WD 74GB Raptor HDD (raid 0+1)
Best PCP&C PSU
Dunno what optical drive.
Water Cooling to boot.

If I did have that I'd probably need something bigger than a Lanboy.
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Died in two years, actually.

Why not replace the case with the higher end Koolance setup? And the BenQ 1640 is suppose to be pretty nifty as far as optical. And don't forget XP64 so you can actually address all 4gigs of that memory.
 
SpoogeMonkey said:
Ditch all those butt ugly cases and get a black powder coat U2 UFO.
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$350.00 for a case, also wasteful.

Put your stuff in this:

http://www.coolermaster.com/product_common_images/73b374b8b51f246168401d24dfc3bfff.jpg

Stacker. Booya. Stacker Linkage

I'd also DITCH that Fatal1ty sound card and wait till Creative gets their IRQ sharing problems, and their pricing, FIXED. Stick with onboard for now until the Creative cards have a chance to mature, or 3rd party manufacturers put out something better. (They WILL be, and I'm SURE it will be better) :D
 
funny my dream pc is nothing like you guys' lol... in fact i only need 3 things to make my current pc my dream pc... an X2 4800+, and a M-Audio Delta 1010 sound card, and a set of 130w rms per satelite M-Audio Monitor's.

my current rig is:
3000+ Venice@2800 mhz
2gb PC3200
M-Audio Audiophile 2496
Radeon 9800 Pro
Epox 9NDA3J
and soon to be 2 Seagate Spinright 120gb SATA drives
i don't need a gaming rig, i need an audio editing/encoding rig. that is far more important to me than gaming. and a FX-57 just wouldn't cut it for Cubase... but a X2 4800+ would!... or maybe i'd wait till the 5000+ came out... nah 4800+ water cooled and overclocked to hell would do it for me.
 
I would go dual core in any dream system, especially one for gaming now that a bunch of games coming soon or a couple that are out already make use of multithreading. If you were truly going all-out, you would get an X2 4800+.
 
My SFF Dream System:

AMD X2 4800+ CPU
Shuttle SN25P Chasis/Motherboard/PSU
2GB Crucial Ballistix DDR-RAM
Nvidia 7800GTX
2x Maxtor MaxLine III 7L300S0 300gb HDD's (Native SATA, NCQ)
Dell 2405FPW 24" Widescreen LCD Monitor (Dual)
NEC 3540A DVD+/-RW DL, 16x DVD burner


What I have:

AMD X2 3800+ CPU @ 2.7ghz/core
Shuttle SN25P Chasis/Motherboard/PSU
2GB Crucial "Value" RAM @ 225mhz 3-3-3-10
eVGA Nvidia 7800GT @ 485/1160 core/mem
1x Maxtor MaxLine III 7L300S0 HDD (Native SATA, NCQ)
Dell 2005FPW 20" Widescreen LCD Monitor
NEC 3540A DVD+/-RW DL, 16x DVD burner



So, I'm pretty close :), and I'm loving it :D ! I only wish the Shuttle had SLI, not that I think I'd ever really use it with how fast videocards advance nowadays, but it would be great to have around.
 
Scroatdog said:
$350.00 for a case, also wasteful.

Put your stuff in this:

http://www.coolermaster.com/product_common_images/73b374b8b51f246168401d24dfc3bfff.jpg

Stacker. Booya. Stacker Linkage

I'd also DITCH that Fatal1ty sound card and wait till Creative gets their IRQ sharing problems, and their pricing, FIXED. Stick with onboard for now until the Creative cards have a chance to mature, or 3rd party manufacturers put out something better. (They WILL be, and I'm SURE it will be better) :D
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pshhh screw taht ugly case....its all in the stacker 830
 
1. Watercooling/Phase change on a K8WE is a waste. Get yourself a couple quality 120mm HSFs for the CPU.

2. Watercooling for the videocards, whatever. I won't argue that. Just realize that watercooling is worthless on the CPUs for that board.

3. Lian Li V2000B Plus + PC34B modules = max possibility of 20x 3.5" hdds + 1x 5.25". I'll take that over the Stacker. (and I did).

As far as the U2-UFO goes...it was too large for me, it wouldn't fit where I wanted it. Capacity/space was better with the V2000B's, at least for me.
 
(cf)Eclipse said:
we can compromise, double stage on both :D
i think a double stage would approach -90c, but if tuned right, can be prevented from breaking the cold bug limit :cool:
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A cascade is two-stage :D
 
Cannibal Corpse said:
Would you please provide links for VAPO and Phase Chaning cooling solutions?
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The phase change setups I'm speaking of (Cascades and three-stage cascades) are only available by being custom-made by phase change guru's such as Chilly1 of XtremeSystems.org
 
get an x2 that overclocks well
some bh5 ram
dfi sli board
2 x 7800 gt or gtx
2x raptor raid 0
2x 300gb maxline 3 16gb cache ncq raid 0
couple plexwriter or plex clones 16x dvdr
couple tv tuners, say maybe hauppage
ocz power supply
coolermaster case, wavemaster or stacker

that should do it for you, at least until christmas, come in at just under 3 large i figure, not including fans, floppies, cables and stuff.


very truly yours,
politenessman


number 1, all cpus 3000mhz and under, all gpus(my core/mem class), all drivers, all os's
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1253354
 
I don't believe that dual 2405 are all that practical for gaming, and it seems to me that they sort of negate the SLI effect. In addition there have been some reports of SLI causing a noticable "divider" on the screen, probably caused the 2405 not having dual DVI inputs.

I love my 2405, but I do have to say that the 1200 vertical isn't all that much more than my previous 1024 vertical, and given the width available I often find myself wishing I had a few more vertical pixels. I find that to me it matters more what is happening in my "forward arc" rather than my flanks (not talking FPS but variable and isometric perspective here), and the available horizontal resolution is often "wasted" in terms that it really doesn't matter what is happening at the outer edges of the screen.
 
I'm going to need help picking my dream computer in a few months.

Getting my annual job bonus :D

Getting a 7800GTX for sure and an X2 CPU of some kind.
 
...if WinXP Pro 32-bit , then 2 1gig modules


...if WinXP Pro 64-bit , then 4 1gig modules... :)
 
Scroatdog said:
QFT. 4 gigs = wasteful
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I resemble that remark. :cool:

Thuleman said:
I don't believe that dual 2405 are all that practical for gaming, and it seems to me that they sort of negate the SLI effect. In addition there have been some reports of SLI causing a noticable "divider" on the screen, probably caused the 2405 not having dual DVI inputs.

I love my 2405, but I do have to say that the 1200 vertical isn't all that much more than my previous 1024 vertical, and given the width available I often find myself wishing I had a few more vertical pixels. I find that to me it matters more what is happening in my "forward arc" rather than my flanks (not talking FPS but variable and isometric perspective here), and the available horizontal resolution is often "wasted" in terms that it really doesn't matter what is happening at the outer edges of the screen.
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The issue with LCD's is that they refresh at 60-75Hz, and you get a tearing effect, as SLi systems typically run with MUCH higher FPS than that. Which can cause a tearing effect. Triple Buffering, and V-Sync can reduce this effect by quite a bit.

The widescreen LCD's are cool, but kind of pointless. You're right on that one. Since EVERYTHING for PC's is formatted for a 4:3 aspect ratio. It doesn't make alot of sense to go widescreen. For general desktop use and applications, it's badass. For games, it doesn't work right since most games don't support the needed display modes.
 
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