Dram prices may drop soon.

Discussion in 'Memory' started by gigaxtreme1, May 19, 2018.

  1. gigaxtreme1

    gigaxtreme1 2[H]4U

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    I was hoping that prices would get back down to $10 a Gig for CAS 14 Samsung B die. Wishes do come true sometimes.
     
  3. Master_shake_

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  4. DejaWiz

    DejaWiz Oracle of Unfortunate Truths

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    Yep...the main players colluding on "strategic factory incidents" to keep prices high, which also shuts out any chance of competitors surviving in a free market environment where the best price, service, and/or warranty rules the roost. The smaller companies have almost zero chance of survival when they are forced to price themselves out of the market due to supplier/manufacturer price fixing...

    I wish we could see 8GB modules for under $40 again...
     
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    Good luck, but I don't think we'll see that until DDR 5 comes out.
     
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    DejaWiz Oracle of Unfortunate Truths

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    I know. Just a wish. And those don't work...
     
  7. euskalzabe

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    Yup. I ain't buying any more memory until it's under $50 for 8GB.

    Then, so be it. My money is earned too hard to be gifted to these companies for technology that isn't worth the extra price tag.
     
  8. limitedaccess

    limitedaccess [H]ardness Supreme

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    It's much easier to take that stance if you are already on a DDR4 as your sig indicates.

    That is a hard stance for people to take who are still on DDR3 platforms as that would mean no upgrades until at least 2020 if not later.
     
  9. HiryuuX

    HiryuuX Limp Gawd

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    And even then, we may not see prices that low. When DDR4 became the standard, DDR3 prices didn't really drop at all since supply/demand lowered so the manufacturers could just keep the price stable. If anything, DDR3 has gone up significantly since it's bottomed out prices (around $30ish per 8GB)
     
  10. gigaxtreme1

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    Was hoping for better sales on memory for Memoryal day. LOL. Still looking for $10 a gig pricing for Samsung B-die. If wishes were fishes.
     
  11. kirbyrj

    kirbyrj Why oh why didn't I take the BLUE pill?

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    I got 2 sets of Flare X for around $175 a piece over Black Friday. They are back up around $250 last time I checked.
     
  12. gigaxtreme1

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    $220 yesterday at Newegg. Maybe July 4th sale or something.
     
  13. Lumpus

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    Same... I have four different lots of memory bookmarked at NewEgg and I'm just waiting for one of them to go on sale :/
     
  14. Master_shake_

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    sweet now it's only a total ripoff.

    before it was a total fucking ripoff.
     
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    Meh...8 GB sticks are so 2010... 16 GB sticks or your're wasting slots. :p
     
  17. MickeyBailey

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    News out yesterday says Samsung is having trouble with both 64L NAND and their latest DRAM node to the point that their semi equip orders were pushed back (and Lam Research sales will decline 30% next two quarters as a result). This is bad news for supply and lowered pricing.
     
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  18. Lumpus

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    For gaming performance, there is almost no difference between 16/32GM memory
    For Ryzen, going quad may decrease memory performance... and definitely timings :/
     
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    I was thinking they are making so much on these financially depreciated older nodes they see no need to upgrade Fab mech now. Besides it may be a play to ride out the summer and see how it goes. Also the crypto craze has cooled off but server DRAM is still going well. Still waiting for prices to come down. Video cards are getting near MSRP. I was hoping to see some speedy new 10nm stuff come out and see how that performs and the consequent price cut on the old stuff.
     
  20. MickeyBailey

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    The name of the game is cost reductions, and they reduce costs by node shrinks and improving yields (and more layers in the case of 3D NAND); Samsung wouldn't pass up a node shrink or increased layers to limit supply (so yields must be quite bad), they would get the highest layer and smallest feature size going and could shutter older lines should they want to limit supply.

    Much has been said about declining NAND prices, but a price reduction of 10-15% isn't noteworthy when they're increasing bit density 50-100%. I think 96L QLC will be the point where NAND will truly start cannibalizing HDD sales, I know my NAS is looking forward to it.

    I've seen 10% yields quoted for Chinese DRAM, pretty dismal.

    edit: also note that just because some of the companies are building new cleanroom space doesn't mean they'll immediately fill it to capacity with new equipment (and this is the fallacy that analysts are using to predict a significant lowering of DRAM prices). All three manufacturers have stated that their goal is to replace lost wafer starts due to node shrinks (takes longer to complete).
     
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    Seems like they going back up. The set of 3200 32gb g.skill teident I bought 2 months ago went up almost $100.
     
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    Digitimes story in the morning about Samsung and others facing fines in China. MU office there got raided.
     
  23. daglesj

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    I keep several sets of RAM on my Amazon Wishlist that helps me track prices. Prices have either stayed the same for months or gone slightly up. Only one set has dropped in that entire time by about £10.

    I'm not holding my breath.

    In the same time most SSD drives I've had on my list have dropped around 20%.
     
  24. MickeyBailey

    MickeyBailey n00bie

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    As a follow-up to my quoted post, here is more information on Samsung's delays (in Chinese, use Chrome)