Does Your ISP Mess With BitTorrent Traffic?

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According to this article, the U.S. is far from the worst country when it comes to throttling BitTorrent traffic, but it isn't the best. And, when it comes to ISPs, Verizon is the best and Cox is the worst.

Looking at the list of countries where at least 100 tests were performed, South Korea (74%), Malaysia (61%) and Singapore (53%) come out on top. Poland is the first European country with 35%, quickly followed by the UK with 28%. Greece and Romania stand out in a positive sense, as only 7% and 9% of the tested BitTorrent connections were limited. The United States, Canada and Australia perform relatively well too, with throttling rates of 14%, 17% and 18% respectively.
 
I wouldn't know, nor do I care since I don't torrent things.

I understand that there are legit uses for torrents, and it's disingenuous of ISP's to shape traffic based on torrent (or any other protocol), especially without having to report to the paying customer what is happening with their bandwidth. But I'm tired of people who are blatantly torrenting movies, shows, etc., hiding behind the guise that torrent in and of itself is not an illegitimate form of traffic, so they should be protected from throttling it specifically.

But what I hate more are ISPs hiding behind the guise of 'pirates' for why they either have sub-standard performance, or can otherwise adjust bandwidth as they see fit. Especially when a lot of areas function under a virtual monopoly for ISP options. I hate the whole system as it is, and it appears that legislators don't really care all that much about this situation.
 
So South Korea throttles 74% of bittorrent traffic. Does that mean they only get 50mb/s transfers?
 
Going to go with no...

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I have Comcast, but the only bittorrent traffic I have is from Blizzard patchers, (unless the STO patcher is also bittorrent, anyone know?) so a 12% throttle isn't that concerning to me. I can live with it, especially if it means my Hulu and Netflix traffic comes through with less interference.
 
I wish there weren't so many people sharing illegal stuff with torrents. ISPs wouldn't have to throttle the traffic if it was just linux distros and updates to games. I guess...maybe not as bad anyway since there are always going to be people out there who download a ton of stuff to the detriment of the rest of us that are just trying to check their e-mail and get funny cat pics.
 
Not an Apple fanboy by any means, but I have often thought back to something I read about Steve Jobs and the Iphone. We all know he was a kind of dreamer, and one of his early things with the iphone was the concept of no ISP/telephone carrier. According to "them" on the internet (we all know how true this could be) but apparently he envisioned a world where everyone connected to everyone else via their wireless devices in an ad hoc fashion, and there was no need for the carriers. What's interesting to me is seeing this concept come to life in manufacturing plants with automation systems. Wherein there are now places where each and every device (transmitter) is a node on a meshed wireless network, if someone drops out or gets bogged down - no worries, the traffic just reroutes via other devices. It's the same concept as the internet now - but we control the nodes.

Ya bandwidth, and rural areas :(

But how friggin cool would that be? I hope technology continues to grow in that direction, and we can get rid of the middleman and just obtain our content without the BS.
 
I wish there weren't so many people sharing illegal stuff with torrents. ISPs wouldn't have to throttle the traffic if it was just linux distros and updates to games. I guess...maybe not as bad anyway since there are always going to be people out there who download a ton of stuff to the detriment of the rest of us that are just trying to check their e-mail and get funny cat pics.

More and more companies are using BT for legitimate purposes. I get a lot of old books this way.
 
Going to go with no...

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Might want to turn your upload up a bit, leech. ;)

While I see that people want to discourage pirates and such from torrents, I find that when I go for an ISP, they are providing me with bit transfer. Moving them from one place to another. That's it. If they advertise me a speed, I want that speed regardless of what I'm moving. If they give me a speed that includes a certain speed for certain protocols, then I'll look at it and might go for it. 100% on everything but 50% on torrents, then I'd be ok with it (as long as the 100% was faster than average speeds).
 
I get every scrap of my shitty internet connection no matter what I do.

Most people would call my connection glorified dial up though.
 
I wish there weren't so many people sharing illegal stuff with torrents. ISPs wouldn't have to throttle the traffic if it was just linux distros and updates to games. I guess...maybe not as bad anyway since there are always going to be people out there who download a ton of stuff to the detriment of the rest of us that are just trying to check their e-mail and get funny cat pics.

If you are having speed issues with email or reddit (cat pics), then you need a new ISP. Something isn't working right there. Either that, or your neighbors house is the place to be for new release movies! ;)

As much as people defend torrents (there are a lot more legitimate uses - freeware games, software distribution, fan films, etc.), I don't think anyone can deny that the majority of it's traffic is illegal downloads.
 
I think this is how those cheap Telephone gadgets work. I forget the name of them now. The $20/year unlimited thingies "As Seen On TV".

Not an Apple fanboy by any means, but I have often thought back to something I read about Steve Jobs and the Iphone. We all know he was a kind of dreamer, and one of his early things with the iphone was the concept of no ISP/telephone carrier. According to "them" on the internet (we all know how true this could be) but apparently he envisioned a world where everyone connected to everyone else via their wireless devices in an ad hoc fashion, and there was no need for the carriers. What's interesting to me is seeing this concept come to life in manufacturing plants with automation systems. Wherein there are now places where each and every device (transmitter) is a node on a meshed wireless network, if someone drops out or gets bogged down - no worries, the traffic just reroutes via other devices. It's the same concept as the internet now - but we control the nodes.

Ya bandwidth, and rural areas :(

But how friggin cool would that be? I hope technology continues to grow in that direction, and we can get rid of the middleman and just obtain our content without the BS.
 
More and more companies are using BT for legitimate purposes. I get a lot of old books this way.

I think torrents can be used for a lot of good stuff. I just would like it if people wouldn't abuse them and cause all the grrr and roar over it. I think Ur_Mom is right about the majority of traffic likely being illegal or questionable in nature.

If you are having speed issues with email or reddit (cat pics), then you need a new ISP. Something isn't working right there. Either that, or your neighbors house is the place to be for new release movies! ;)

As much as people defend torrents (there are a lot more legitimate uses - freeware games, software distribution, fan films, etc.), I don't think anyone can deny that the majority of it's traffic is illegal downloads.

I can get cat pics okay and the speeds I pay for I actually do seem to get, but I just think that if it weren't for heavy internet users and stuff like abusive torrents, ISPs might be willing to offer more for the same amount of money. Then again, maybe they'd just pocket the extra dollars.... :(
 
I think torrents can be used for a lot of good stuff. I just would like it if people wouldn't abuse them and cause all the grrr and roar over it. I think Ur_Mom is right about the majority of traffic likely being illegal or questionable in nature.

I can get cat pics okay and the speeds I pay for I actually do seem to get, but I just think that if it weren't for heavy internet users and stuff like abusive torrents, ISPs might be willing to offer more for the same amount of money. Then again, maybe they'd just pocket the extra dollars.... :(

I don't think they'd offer more for less money. Even if they were to get those high usage applications (Netflix is one) to pay more for preferential treatment of data, that extra income won't translate to lower costs or higher speeds to the consumer. That's extra profit for the shareholders.

Illegal or not, their job is to move those packets and forth. That's it. If the traffic gets too bad to where it slows down the network, sure, add some QoS and throttle something. Not because it's illegal, but because it's slowing things down. Then, upgrade the network so it doesn't happen as often. People pay for certain speeds. If it is purposely throttled, then they are not getting those speeds and need to be compensated. It would be in their best interest to upgrade the network if they had to pay if it under-performed constantly and had to offer refunds.
 
ISP's are nothing more than a taxi for my data -- you give me a rate and how fast you can get me there, and my business is yours.

What im sending, and what I'm receiving is none of your concern. If they don't want to upgrade their pipes to keep with the times of 1080p video, skype, netflix, and coming 4K content... then fuck em' I'll give my money to someone who will actually move forward instead of holding me back.

I have Time Warner - 15mbit service, for 35/month, unlimited everything as far as I can see (pushed 400GB one month) I am uber pissed at them not for anything service wise, but because for the past 2 days they have robo called me trying to get me to upgrade my service... quickest way to piss off a redblooded american male is to call him while he's at work with bullshit like this.
 
I have Comcast, only because my landlord includes it with the rent. (FiOS is available in the neighborhood, and I'd much prefer it)

I'm not a fan of Comcast, but at the very least they don't seem to throttle torrents.
 
Comcast has been acting quite weird in the bay area these couple days.

Google, Youtube, and Netflix pages keeps timeout or load very slow. Once I connect up to my VPN server everything is back to normal.

Something is going fishy with Comcast lately.
 
If you are in NZ and want your P2P, Usenet, or whatever else to run at full speed - snap.net.nz has quickly become the geek favourite for absolutely no traffic shaping whatsoever.

And they have top notch backhaul off the islands.

(and no I don't work for them)
 
Does anyone have an ISP map handy somewhere? I have a shit ISP and I'm hoping to base my next move on the ISP available.
 
I've got TWC in rural Ohio, Windows on my gaming pc got corrupted, had to download my entire Steam library all over, took a week for 900gigs of data.
It started off pretty quick, but the longer it went the slower it got.
Pretty sure I was getting throttled.
 
The way I see it the software developers and movie industry are responsible for piracy. For software most do not even make a demo of the product to try out and will not allow a return of the sold product if it is considered junk to the buyer. Just about everything else you can purchase and return if your not satisfied with the quality of the purchase. And two with moves you pay money for the movie and they require you on many releases that you watch 10 mins of ads etc before you can even begin watching the movie. So the plus side of torrents with so called illegal file sharing is they bring it on themselves. I only wish more people would download torrent files to wake these people up and stop trying to scam the people that pay good money for poor quality.
 
So South Korea throttles 74% of bittorrent traffic. Does that mean they only get 50mb/s transfers?

I think the % figure is the number of users affected by throttling. Higher % probably meant more ISP in that country are throttling P2P traffics.
 
I've got TWC in rural Ohio, Windows on my gaming pc got corrupted, had to download my entire Steam library all over, took a week for 900gigs of data.
It started off pretty quick, but the longer it went the slower it got.
Pretty sure I was getting throttled.

That's when you call them to upgrade your speed package, then when you are done re-downloading your Steam library you call them back and downgrade back to what you had.

I have my Steam library backed up on an external drive.
 
Does anyone have an ISP map handy somewhere? I have a shit ISP and I'm hoping to base my next move on the ISP available.

Ha, check out Chatanooga, TN. I wanted to move there for the internet, but wife vetoed it. Apparently the internet speeds and price aren't enough of a reason to move somewhere :(
 
I'm on Comcast Business in Northern California, and I'm pretty sure they aren't throttling anything. Most torrents are able to max my download, and I regularly download torrents that are 100GB or larger.
 
Ha, check out Chatanooga, TN. I wanted to move there for the internet, but wife vetoed it. Apparently the internet speeds and price aren't enough of a reason to move somewhere :(

No I still have to stay here. My point is that I want to know where the Comcast/WoW/Charter territories overlaps or borders. Especially where AT&T U-verse overlaps those areas.
 
No they don't. They would be breaking the law up here in the great white north that is Canada. We may have outrageous data caps and we're overcharged for our service but nope not throttled.
 
ISP's are nothing more than a taxi for my data -- you give me a rate and how fast you can get me there, and my business is yours.

What im sending, and what I'm receiving is none of your concern. If they don't want to upgrade their pipes to keep with the times of 1080p video, skype, netflix, and coming 4K content... then fuck em' I'll give my money to someone who will actually move forward instead of holding me back.
I agree with that, though if you want to see how bad it can get just look at us up here in Canada back oh 6-7 years ago, throttling and screwing around with data throughput was so bad that the CRTC(FCC eqv), Federal Government, and Provincial governments all got involved and told the ISP's(main Rogers, Bell, Telus, but also Cogeco and a few others) that if they didn't stop they'd start by revoking their telecommunications licensees. Since all but a few of them also own all of the media up here the threat worked fairly well. Rogers itself was excessively malicious when they had sandvine boxes up everywhere. Your torrent speed for say WoW patches might be as low as 8kb/s, one of the reasons there were so many FTP/HTTP mirror dumps back then.

These days, my FL ISP(brighthouse) is okay. I don't see any throttling, but price wise compared to what I pay in Canada it's a massive ripoff.
 
My current speed is already quite slow (900KB/s-1.1MB/s) so I haven't or don't think my ISP will ever throttle me down given that I've been downloading nearly 110GB's worth of stuff in the past couple days or so and still ongoing.

I have had ever had over 10 infringement notices though...but I just give those the finger coz I'm one bad mfker. :cool:
 
That's when you call them to upgrade your speed package, then when you are done re-downloading your Steam library you call them back and downgrade back to what you had.

I have my Steam library backed up on an external drive.

E-Check is coming up and I've been pouring money into my truck so it'll pass.
Upgraded plugs/ wires/ distributor and filters to Corvette racing grade (96 Suburban, same engine:D), new fuel tank/ neck/ lines, and am going to have to replace the catalytic converters and exhaust before March. May I'll probably do new headers and muffler, thinking Borla.
I'm getting an external drive in 2 months or so and I'll back up then.
Worst part was having almost 100 gigs in just Skyrim and Oblivion mods lost.
 
Pretty funny how obvious pirating posts aren't even frowned upon here. Keep supporting the good fight :rolleyes:
 
Pretty funny how obvious pirating posts aren't even frowned upon here. Keep supporting the good fight :rolleyes:

You can't be certain it was piracy, though I'm pretty sure they'd rather have you think it was piracy instead of underage bestiality midget porn.
:D
 
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