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Does i3 sucks up 100% of CPU usage for basic tasks, such as web browsing + reading email?

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From the beginning of Celeron (back in 1990s) to post as recent as 2019, there are users who complains Celeron crawling at 100% CPU usage:

https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/cpu-100-usage.3547652/

https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/intel-celeron-2-53ghz-is-so-slow.1706775/

https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/intel-celeron-cpu-2-53ghz-really-that-slow.238546/

Now supposedly, Celeron can handle web browsing according to this:

https://www.geekompc.com/intel-celeron-vs-intel-core-i3/

Since Intel has killed the Celeron and Pentium, does the above Celeron problem "migrates" to i3? because what they said on paper, is not what happens in reality:

https://linustechtips.com/topic/128...ores-but-sometimes-it-goes-down-again/page/2/

now, if we compares i3 to Pentium

https://pcguide101.com/cpu/intel-celeron-vs-i3/

this link clearly said i3 is faster than Pentium and Celeron, but I always thought the mysterious 100% CPU usage problem on Celeron migrated to i3 and I see i3 system sucking up 85% to 95% CPU usage on basic task whereas Pentium w/ only 2 core does NOT have that problem

so w/ the newer 14th generation i3, can it do basic tasks w/o sucking up 85% or higher CPU usage?
 
web browsing and i3 are both quite generic term....

75 chrome tabs in windows 11 with 4k @ 60 fps videos is different than a couple of well made simple website on an lite Linux-Browser combo....

A core i3-530 is quite the different cpu than a i3-9350k, that a conversation that put together a 2core-4threads 1500 passmark MT score (i3-530) and a 7662 MT passmark 4 core cpu (9350k), with significant level of quicksync hardware acceleration support has if they were the same.
 
where do you come up with this shit!?!
almost every chromebook we have at work(schools) is celeron based, its only internet, it works fine. an i3 will surf just fine too. just dont have a bajillion tabs open.
 
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I sell Compaq Celeron back in 1990's. At the time, it wasn't cheap. But when the PC was running simple tasks, it's extremely crawlingly slow. The hard drive keep spinning, as it turns out, CPU usage is at 100%. Now the 1st 3 links from the search engine also has other users saying the same thing w/ the most recent link in 2019. So for Celeron CPU based PC, even if it's free, I don't want it.

I am very happy w/ Pentium PC, w/ all the Pentium PC that I setup, primarily for clients that surf the internet and check email, never have mid to high CPU usage. And back then Pentium was only $70, now the price jack up to $120 and it's being discontinued. So Intel is selling i3 at $200 or so, and my 2 concern are:

a) is i3 REALLY able to do everyday average PC task w/o going to 85% or higher CPU usage

b) w/ the Ultra line out, there is NO i3, there is only 5, 7, 9. so eventually w/ the 14th generation CPU being discontinue, does that mean we have to pay an arm and a leg on Ultra 5 at a whoppy $350? because Intel is not going to drop the price back down ti $70
 
Yes, the i3 8100 and i3 4xxx ones I had/have would peg to 100% doing basic tasks, seems normal for those lower end processors.
 
that's the part I don't understand. Even w/ Celeron, it has to be a design bug. In all those Compaq Celeron that I sold, practically all the time, it's running at 100% CPU usage, just like those other links that those users complains about. So they never change / fixes anything. And yet Pentium works fine. And according to Intel and the link above, Pentium is only 2 core, i3 is 4.
 
I think the main limiting factor is the cache it has to work with. It's just not enough to handle many tasks in parallel, and combined with it's already low operating frequency and low memory speeds, you end up in swapping/interrupt hell any time you run more than a few things at once.

It's not a bug, it's a design limitation of the celeron archetecture. The celeron was made with small cache, few cores (one or two), and no hyperthreading, to make it as cheap as possible to manufacture. Consequently, it chokes when fed too much at once, and modern operating systems are good at choking wimpy celerons even before desktop applications are loaded.

Edit: Back in the day, I had an AM2 Sempron processor. It was fairly quick at single tasks, but absolutely choked with any multitasking. I was floored when I upgraded to an Athlon 64 X2 (two cores). It was not even close, the Athlon annihilated it.
 
No, CPU performance spikes are normal, it is how daily use works, it is very spiky, then back to idle. And no, a modern i3 with 4c 8t!? On a modern architecture!? At almost ,5ghz!? I have an AMD FX at like 4.8ghz that still feels really fast. I also have a first gen i7 (4c 8t way slower IPC) at 3.9ghz that is still plenty fast.
 
Those links to ancient posts ... why should i care that somebody in 2014 still thinks formatting a drive would remove Viruses?

How about we stay in the here and now?
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i3-530-vs-Intel-Core-i5-14600K/m132vs4153

fyi
Those old chips are open to attacks like a barn without doors.
So my bet is that those laptops are running malware.
There isn´t any remedy except to take the chip behind said barn and sending it off to heaven.
 
Carlyle2020 said:
Those links to ancient posts ... why should i care that somebody in 2014 still thinks formatting a drive would remove Viruses?

How about we stay in the here and now?
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i3-530-vs-Intel-Core-i5-14600K/m132vs4153

fyi
Those old chips are open to attacks like a barn without doors.
So my bet is that those laptops are running malware.
There isn´t any remedy except to take the chip behind said barn and sending it off to heaven.
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but my last link above is another user running i3-9100, and that post is only 2021.

https://linustechtips.com/topic/128...ores-but-sometimes-it-goes-down-again/page/2/

and I think this link is his PC result,

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/37918122

that i3 shouldn't be that slow for a few web page. Even if you open 2 dozen web page, it shouldn't be that slow.
 
Happy Hopping said:
but my last link above is another user running i3-9100, and that post is only 2021.

https://linustechtips.com/topic/128...ores-but-sometimes-it-goes-down-again/page/2/

and I think this link is his PC result,
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That a 7700k, I think despite the thread title.... (or at least the poster did not know which cpu he had... making judging hardware from his testimony a bit fishy)
I have an i7-7700k, 16gb of DDR4 RAM at 2400 MHz, a 1TB Samsung SATA SSD, 2TB WD BLUE HDD, and an MSI Z390

And seem to be something that changed over time, not to intrinsic to the CPU, for a quick test, try to find an equivalent but with someone running Linux.

The fact you did find an exact equivalent but with someone running the top of the line core i7 should tell you something.
 
you dont want to listen to anyone here, so go with what those sites say and stop asking questions you dont want answers for.
 
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