i was wondering this cuz i see all these threads about ppl oc'ing their 170s, getting 2.7+ ghz all over the place, but i never see anyone touting their 165. and then i see baron whoring his 165, and i look at his cpu-z validation link, expecting something like 2.8 or 2.9, but its not even 2.7? unless it was at like 1.3v or something like that, im confused. i thought the only difference was like a64 3000 vs 3200 or opty 144 vs 146, the 9x multiplier vs the 10x multiplier.