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Display, PSU motherboard, or GPU issue?

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Flogger23m

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Hello,

I have been having the following issue for a while. I will describe it below:

1) I upgraded to a EVGA GTX 560ti 2GB (From 260 216 Superclocked). When I turn off the PSU or unplug it, then power the PSU on/plug it in and press the power button my PC boots fine every time. I can play games such as BF3 and ArmA 2 for hours with no issues.

2) However, a normal shutdown from Windows and then turning the PC on without turning off the PSU/unplugging first causes an issue. The POST beep is delayed, however it eventually does POST. However, there is no video displayed. The video card's fan is still spinning. I can hear the HDD accessing, loading into Windows most likely.

3) I ordered a replacement from EVGA. The 3rd card worked flawlessly in terms of powering on for about a week. Today the issue described above occurred again. I tested it a few times, and the issue persists.

4) I doubt the video cards are the issue at this point, so I bought a new Antec Earthwatts 650 PSU (check newegg for specs). This did not fix my issue. It was as if my old Earthwatts 500 was in my PC. I doubt both PSUs have the same issue.

5) Put my video card into an entirely different PC, also with an Antec Earthwatts 500 (3 years old). It powered on fine 3 times, and BF3 worked fine. I doubt my video card is the issue.

I think it is safe to assume that the PSU(s) and video card are fine. This leaves me to believe my motherboard is the issue. How can I determine/test the motherboard? I have the latest BIOS for it (1402) and it has been working fine until I received my first GTX 560ti.

What other things might be causing the issue?

I am guessing it might be an issue with the motherboard, though it worked fine with the GTX 260 Superclocked core 216. If it is a PCIe-related issue on the motherboard, would clearing the BIOS and reinstalling the latest bios version resolve the issue? I should also mention that there is no apparent physical damage or obstruction on the PCIe slot itself. I will also note that the original BIOS versions for my motherboard will not support my CPU (AMD 965), and I have no CPU that will work on the original BIOS version. If I were to revert to the original BIOS with the AMD 965, will I be unable to get into the BIOS/ASUS EZ Flash to update them?

Edit: After putting the video card back into my PC, I put the entire PC onto a different surge protector and outlet. It worked fine for two normal starts/shutdowns, however on the 3rd attempt the same issue occurred. So I doubt my outlet or surge protector is causing an issue either.


System specs:
Antec Earthwatts 500
Antec Earthwatts 650
ASUS M3N78 Pro Motherboard
Corsair XMS2 - 4x DIMMs, 8GB total
AMD 965
WD FALS HDD
Samsung 223F DVD/CD Drive
2x case fans
1x PCI Card
Viewsonic 19"
Win 7 Pro 64bit


System #2 that I tried my 560ti in:
Antec Earthwatts 500
ASUS M4A88 T-M
AMD 1090T
2x SATA HDDs
Win 7 Pro 64bit
4x DIMM DDR 3, 8GB total
2x case fans
1x DVD/CD drive
Samsung 24"
 
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Try updating to the latest BIOS update?

Clear CMOS?

Try a different motherboard
 
If I were to revert to the original BIOS with the AMD 965, will I be unable to get into the BIOS/ASUS EZ Flash to update them as the original BIOS do not support this CPU? Again, I have no CPU that can test the board with the original BIOS version. There are no new BIOS to try either. Is reverting to an older BIOS version even possible?

Video card was tried in an entirely different PC. I did 1 power on from a PSU that was turned off, and two normal shutdown/restarts as well as played BF3 for a little with no issues. After putting the video card back into my PC, I put the entire PC onto a different surge protector and outlet. It worked fine for two normal starts/shutdowns, however on the 3rd attempt the same issue occured. So I doubt my outlet or surge protector is causing an issue either.

If I clear CMOS, will that erase my current BIOS?

Could RAM be an issue?
 
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Bump. Anyone have any other suggestions? Integrated graphics and my old GTX 260 work fine. This makes me doubt it is a motherboard/PCI Express slot issue.

I will try an HD 6950 2GB today to see if that has issues assuming I get the time. Assuming that works, that just leaves the video card and CMOS.

Will clearing the CMOS wipe my BIOS?
 
Danny Bui said:
No. It will simply just set the BIOS to the default settings for that BIOs.

RAM isn't a probable issue since you would be seeing a lot more signs of instability. I.e BSODs and the like.
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Okay, after I try the HD 6950 I will try clearing the CMOS and try the 560ti again.

I also removed two of the RAM sticks and that did nothing. As you said, no BSODs so I doubt it is an issue.

Also stress tested the 560 ti in System #2 for 7 minutes with 0 issues. Tested the HD 6950 2GB in my PC for 6 minutes with no issues.

Just about the only thing I have not tried is changing BIOS, resetting CMOS, and updating video card firmware.
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