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now thats interesting...
I wish people would stop giving me reasons to defend AMD.even though I have prime1 on ignore I see she still does her thing
The truth is the only advantage was price. Factor in heat and poor drivers, most people pony up for nvidia if they can afford to.
I don't understand how people can continue to claim nvidia's drivers are better and continually bash AMD's when nividia released multiple WHQL drivers that destroyed their own hardware...
Yeah, no. Drivers were a non-issue for AMD starting years ago. Now they are just as good as nvidia's if not better (I've never seen AMD drivers destroy a video card, but NV had to pull their 196.75 and 320.18 drivers because they were destroying GPU's).
I don't understand how people can continue to claim nvidia's drivers are better and continually bash AMD's when nividia released multiple WHQL drivers that destroyed their own hardware...
Well. AMD's drivers are still shit. Everytime a new game comes out it runs like shit on AMD.
Watch Dogs, Wolfenstein, WildStar. And those are just from the last few weeks.
How many times in your life has a new game released, and you see a bunch of "It runs bad on AMD" or "It's not optimized for AMD" or "We have to wait for AMD to release a new driver"?
It feels like every game these days.
Well. AMD's drivers are still shit. Everytime a new game comes out it runs like shit on AMD.
Watch Dogs, Wolfenstein, WildStar. And those are just from the last few weeks.
How many times in your life has a new game released, and you see a bunch of "It runs bad on AMD" or "It's not optimized for AMD" or "We have to wait for AMD to release a new driver"?
It feels like every game these days.
Yeah, no. Drivers were a non-issue for AMD starting years ago. Now they are just as good as nvidia's if not better (I've never seen AMD drivers destroy a video card, but NV had to pull their 196.75 and 320.18 drivers because they were destroying GPU's).
I don't understand how people can continue to claim nvidia's drivers are better and continually bash AMD's when nividia released multiple WHQL drivers that destroyed their own hardware...
You mean offering more performance for less money doesn't equal sales?!
Hardware community is weird.
There's nothing more AMD can do to boost their sales aside from, I don't know, running TV adverts.
even though I have prime1 on ignore I see she still does her thing
Actually, judging by your adamant defence of Nvidia at every turn, I'd say you are quite the fanboy of Nvidia.Two drivers in a decade that have had fan speed issues that just caused people's computers to lockup once they got too hot (which hopefully prompted most to troubleshoot and find out that they could just roll back a driver version and be fixed), is hardly comparable to the vast majority of AMD drivers having major issues with various games, anything but a one-monitor one-gpu setup, and generally being inferior in release speed and updates. I've owned many of both brands over the years as I said before, so I'm hardly a "fanboy" of one side or the other I just buy what works nowadays and is the best value for my money (and that's not spending more time tweaking than gaming with an AMD card, let me tell you! I've loved my GTX 780 though ).
Actually, judging by your adamant defence of Nvidia at every turn, I'd say you are quite the fanboy of Nvidia. You, Unknown-One and PRIME1 should be getting paid by Nvidia, because you're working pretty hard at clearing their name and promoting team green. Good on you, too; everyone needs their religion. Like those people who live and die by Apple products. It's largely placebo, but hey, whatever floats your boat.Two drivers in a decade that have had fan speed issues that just caused people's computers to lockup once they got too hot (which hopefully prompted most to troubleshoot and find out that they could just roll back a driver version and be fixed), is hardly comparable to the vast majority of AMD drivers having major issues with various games, anything but a one-monitor one-gpu setup, and generally being inferior in release speed and updates. I've owned many of both brands over the years as I said before, so I'm hardly a "fanboy" of one side or the other I just buy what works nowadays and is the best value for my money (and that's not spending more time tweaking than gaming with an AMD card, let me tell you! I've loved my GTX 780 though ).
Uh-huh......Anyway.
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Actually, judging by your adamant defence of Nvidia at every turn, I'd say you are quite the fanboy of Nvidia. You, Unknown-One and PRIME1 should be getting paid by Nvidia, because you're working pretty hard at clearing their name and promoting team green. Good on you, too; everyone needs their religion. Like those people who live and die by Apple products. It's largely placebo, but hey, whatever floats your boat.
I've had the exact same experience as you, though. Except swap the word Nvidia with AMD and vice-versa. So, when anybody says that AMD drivers give them trouble, require tweaking and whatnot, I've had the same experience with Nvidia.
You know what that means? A ton of people are blaming their general system instability on their scapegoat of choice. Like I wrote above.
Nah, I just say what I think is correct, like most rational people do when someone spews forth misinformation . You may claim it's placebo but the marketplace doesn't agree, unlike with apple where they have a tiny market share. Nvidia meanwhile has a 2/3 share of discrete GPUs, outselling AMD 2:1, because I'm hazarding a guess most people share my experience and not yours . Not the same thing whatsoever as an apple product. As you said, I guess everyone needs a religion/forum warrior cause, eh... you demonstrate that perfectly Kazeo!
When someone has to resort to personal insults like you are, they've already lost their argument.
Two drivers in a decade that have had fan speed issues that just caused people's computers to lockup once they got too hot (which hopefully prompted most to troubleshoot and find out that they could just roll back a driver version and be fixed), is hardly comparable to the vast majority of AMD drivers having major issues with various games, anything but a one-monitor one-gpu setup, and generally being inferior in release speed and updates. I've owned many of both brands over the years as I said before, so I'm hardly a "fanboy" of one side or the other I just buy what works nowadays and is the best value for my money (and that's not spending more time tweaking than gaming with an AMD card, let me tell you! I've loved my GTX 780 though ).
Actually, judging by your adamant defence of Nvidia at every turn, I'd say you are quite the fanboy of Nvidia.
I've had the exact same experience as you, though. Except swap the word Nvidia with AMD and vice-versa. So, when anybody says that AMD drivers give them trouble, require tweaking and whatnot, I've had the same experience with Nvidia.
You know what that means? A ton of people are blaming their general system instability on their scapegoat of choice. Like I wrote above.
When someone has to resort to personal insults like you are, they've already lost their argument.
Heat and noise were a factor. Otherwise they are great cards.
For some of us, non-native speakers, in our native language, the hardware parts are not referred by "it", but, has a gender tag. For example in Polish, CPU is "he", gpu is "she" and cooling would be referred like "it". So when writing in English, I sometimes might translate my native language rules to your language.
Might be this case, and not that the one, who refers to gpu as "she" lives in close relationship with the card
Nvidia is more like the woman. Well built, costs a lot, fun to play with
AMD is more like the man. Ugly, strong, uses way more resources than necessary.
What didn't help is that 290 came out just before the holiday period, production would be on the way down and with the mining craze.