Desktop PC Platform: Killed By Overclocking

[TheWeazmeister]

But the author seems to forget that no matter how many companies push these "excessive enthusiast-overclocker-h4rdc0r3-whatever" products, there will always be ways to do it the way that we originally intended. No one is forcing us to spend the extra money for these privileges, it's entirely possible to pick up a dirt-cheap setup and make the most out of it, I've been doing that for years. So what if joe schmo overclocker wants to spend an extra fortune on his setup? I'll spend a fraction of that on mine and net similar if not better performance. It's still entirely possible to do that, manufacturers are still offering us cheap parts that we can turn into excellent performers, so this guy doesn't really have much of an argument. It would be one thing if cheap hardware was completely locked down and I had to pay for the privilege, but that's not how it is at all.

Exactly, that is entirely it. Just because mainstream wants to be able to jainbreak, oc, w/e their product now, not just because it is "cool" but because there are tons of uses for doesn't make it all of a sudden less of a hobby. LOL, I remember the first time I told a friend that I was going to slap a peltier on my CPU and he went out a year later and purchased one of the AIO kits that promised pelt performance, and his excitement when he was beating air cooled solutions, and his 'meh' attitute when he saw that homebrews were still beating him bloody silly. Does his kit purchase make it any less than what I did? That's debateable but the fact is that if wasn't for people like us, mainstream wouldn't have benefited from it, period.

 

[Deleted member 134608]

A couple points of this article I've felt for quite some time, but there rest is gross hyperbole.

IMO buying 4GB DDR3 2200+ OC RAM and a Ramage III Extreme board is not worth the $381 premium over Kingston Value RAM and a X58A-UD3R. The little bit extra OC headroom and memory bandwidth won't yield the same fun factor as an extra $381 in GPU, SSDs or extra hard drives.

But "killing desktops" is just a stupid statement. If anything ends up killing desktops it will be if the average consumer (ie. not us) no longer sees any advantage to them. But as long as they are still cheaper than iMacs, more powerful and cheaper to fix than anything portable, and customizable desktops will stick around.

 

[SirKronan]

I totally agree. Overclockers are not killing the market. Manufactures selling very high priced 'overclocked' goods to a small niche are just shooting themselves in the foot. I also had a 300a (after reading the reviews here ) and could never justify the cost of those Intel Extreme's or quad 480 superclocked SLI. I'll get something decent and push it a bit and then use it everyday for a year. I'm no freaking Bill Gates

You're right, overclockers aren't killing the market, but manufacturers aren't shooting themselves in the foot either. I explained this in detail a couple pages ago. People buying high-end shnazzy stuff benefits ALL of us including the manufacturer in the long run, in the short run, and in various ways.

I think alot of people are missing this point about the article.

Agreed. It's a shame, too, because they'll inherit the future of this hobby.

What makes his point null and void is that he's got it all wrong. He makes a few valid mini-points in his writing, but the core of it, even if true, still really only truly is being gobbled up hook line and sinker by the minority. The majority is taking their dual core Pentium, a $25 freezer 7 pro, and adding a gigahertz to it. Or they are taking their $200 i7 920 and a $60 TRUE and adding a gigahertz to it, quad core hyperthreaded style.

Will you and I buy the DOUBLE-PRICED Corsiar Dominator sticks?? Well, some might, but I'm gonna say a big fat HELL NO for me. That is most definitely adding a dinky amount of performance for a huge premium in price. But is that what the majority buys? No way.

I thank the stars for those that do, however. Corsair makes money. I like Corsair. Because they make money they can offer great support, do more R&D, make killer products at various price brackets, and we budget-minded get to reap the benefits of advancements and features that trickle down.

He is 100% pissing into the wind with this article, any way you cut the cake.

 

[Dreknaught]

You're right, overclockers aren't killing the market, but manufacturers aren't shooting themselves in the foot either. I explained this in detail a couple pages ago. People buying high-end shnazzy stuff benefits ALL of us including the manufacturer in the long run, in the short run, and in various ways.






What makes his point null and void is that he's got it all wrong. He makes a few valid mini-points in his writing, but the core of it, even if true, still really only truly is being gobbled up hook line and sinker by the minority. The majority is taking their dual core Pentium, a $25 freezer 7 pro, and adding a gigahertz to it. Or they are taking their $200 i7 920 and a $60 TRUE and adding a gigahertz to it, quad core hyperthreaded style.

Will you and I buy the DOUBLE-PRICED Corsiar Dominator sticks?? Well, some might, but I'm gonna say a big fat HELL NO for me. That is most definitely adding a dinky amount of performance for a huge premium in price. But is that what the majority buys? No way.

I thank the stars for those that do, however. Corsair makes money. I like Corsair. Because they make money they can offer great support, do more R&D, make killer products at various price brackets, and we budget-minded get to reap the benefits of advancements and features that trickle down.

He is 100% pissing into the wind with this article, any way you cut the cake.

Just FYI, Das Capitolin is the author of the article. That's right, I read both of them AND the comments.

I still think he's making mountains out of mole hills, while tilting at windmills, followed by upwind urination.

Saying the "Overclocking Gear" market has almost ANY effect on the industry at large is laughable. Other then the eventual trickle down of course, which I kinda dig myself.

 

[Condomwrap]

Seems like everyone might be taking their "objective" views a little too subjectively. I do agree that the author might be stretching his point a little for the sake of the article, as his points could be applied to any profitable industry out there. However, those same rules do apply to us as overclockers as well. To me being an overclocker is all about price vs performance, the ability to get more than what I pay for. Like anything else there are diminishing returns once you hit a certain price point, sure I might not spend $2000 on a system but that doesnt mean im above paying for quality components when they matter.
Power supplies are one component I feel that you pay what you get for, absolutely. Intel Extreme processors, 2200mhz ddr3, sli/crossfire, $300 motherboards, not so much...
But we live in the world of technology and like so many other technical industires the more people pay for the privelage of early adoption the quicker cheaper prices filter down to the average consumer. So in that respect the author is quite confused.

 

[SirKronan]

Just FYI, Das Capitolin is the author of the article. That's right, I read both of them AND the comments.

I still think he's making mountains out of mole hills, while tilting at windmills, followed by upwind urination.

Saying the "Overclocking Gear" market has almost ANY effect on the industry at large is laughable. Other then the eventual trickle down of course, which I kinda dig myself.

I had read both articles, but not the comments. That's a good observation there. Anyways, you, the poster below you, and a lot of others here at [H], as well as most of the comments on the original article, seem to actually see what the author refuses to. I suppose everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I just have to wonder what he's thinking when he writes an article saying something is doing us and the market harm when that couldn't be further from the truth.

Sad.

 

[MaxBurn]

Meh, they found a niche market to sell high priced things to. Good business.