Demand For PS3 Softening Already?

[Ockie]

Hey guy, if you can't tell the difference between a high-performance exotic sports car and a product that is an attempt to dominate a market comprised at least partially of children, I can't help you.

This makes a lot of sense....

 

[Deleted member 133315]

I'm guessing it won't be cheaper, but actually more expensive than the US.

That's a given, it will be dearer than what the state's pay for it, but what I mean is, whatever price they have set for it in the UK now, which if I remember it is something like £600+, if the sale's in the state's go very badly right up until the release in europe then sony might revise their prices and make them that touch lower, maybe somewhere in the £500 range just to try and grab some more sales with it being that touch cheaper.

The strong currency we have is good for somethings and shit for others, so we have to give and take. £500 is peanuts nowadays and for most people to pay that for a ps3 I dont think they would complain since nearly every big electronic purchase that people make in this country is about the £500 mark and up, £600+ for a ps3 is waaaay to much and I would think twice about buying one at that price but if it was in the 500 range that would be a decent start since they are/were gonna charge 600+ anyways. I would prefer £300 but that aint happening anytime soon.

my 360 was £400 not including games and extras when it first came out, so I really dont see the big deal, both companies are scamming us and both have/had extortinate prices when first on sale.

 

[CopyCat]

It is 100% a price thing.

Yes I have seen PS3's in stock in stores...but every time that I do see them in stores I see a couple kids standing there "OOOOing" and "Aaaahing" wishing they could buy one. I have heard "OMG they have PS3s" several times.
Speaking with people totally not into tech at all the PS3 has still got a lot of buzz around it and still is seen as an incredible system by many.

Maybe this is just my experience though. We just got a 360 in my house (I have 2 roommates) and we love it...play games and have a great time. Neither of them are real gamers or tech guys and everyone once in awhile they will mention the PS3 and how they want one but its to expensive.

If Sony brought the system to market at 360 prices even if the 360 slashed its prices to compete it would have sold TONS more and would be equally as hard to find right now as the Wii if not harder.
That of course is just what I think.

For the moment, I am happy with my 360 but there is no doubt in my mind that I will be getting a PS3...the question is simply when and for how much

 

[nilepez]

Last time I checked that our local Lamborghini dealership is having a hard time moving their products so they must be horrible sellers They constantly have Murcielagos and Gallardo's in their lot.... damn, they can't move these things.

*sarcasm*

Lamborghini doesn't expect to sell as many units as a Ford, Sony expected the PS3 to be #1.

 

[Ockie]

Lamborghini doesn't expect to sell as many units as a Ford, Sony expected the PS3 to be #1.

Lamborghini also expects to be number 1... thats the dream of every company to be number 1 in the business.

And if you want to dig deeper, define where sony wants to be number 1 and thier target of genre, audience, and entertainment values.

I can tell you right now Sony is number 1, in their own niche group, Nintendo is also number 1, and so is Microsoft. The problem comes in is people reject that sony can actually do any good and discount them by simply attacking the sales numbers.

Thier sales numbers are as expected, they sold more units than the PS2, they broke record sales on their other products, I don't think they are exactly "doing poorly"... the only poor performance is that of the peoples oppinions.

 

[HardOCP News]

The PS3 (as are all the new consoles) is barely in its infancy here, any judgments passed now are extremely premature. 1 million consoles shipped is a respectable number, the only reason it looks “bad” is because of the numbers (4 million, revised to 2 million...shipped 1 million) Sony promised in the first place.

Sony is in this for the long haul. They took out a $800 million loan for PS3 production. According to various reports, they are losing $300 - $350 on each console. Times the 1 million U.S. consoles sold by the amount they lose per console and add in the original $800 million loan and you can see where this HAS to be a long haul process.

If Sony “totally fails” and only sells ¼ of the units the PS2 sold, they are still in pretty good shape…they just won’t be “#1” on somebody’s chart.

I think that when the dust settles, we will see a three way race with each console filling a certain demographic. The only thing that can change the 33-33-33 number (in my opinion) is the companies themselves.

 

[Ockie]

The PS3 (as are all the new consoles) is barely in its infancy here, any judgments passed now are extremely premature. 1 million consoles shipped is a respectable number, the only reason it looks “bad” is because of the numbers (4 million, revised to 2 million...shipped 1 million) Sony promised in the first place.

Sony is in this for the long haul. They took out a $800 million loan for PS3 production. According to various reports, they are losing $300 - $350 on each console. Times the 1 million U.S. consoles sold by the amount they lose per console and add in the original $800 million loan and you can see where this HAS to be a long haul process.

If Sony “totally fails” and only sells ¼ of the units the PS2 sold, they are still in pretty good shape…they just won’t be “#1” on somebody’s chart.

I think that when the dust settles, we will see a three way race with each console filling a certain demographic. The only thing that can change the 33-33-33 number (in my opinion) is the companies themselves.

Well said

 

[deeznuts]

No feathers ruffled at all

It just seems that people want to blame the messenger for Sony's woes.

While I admit you aren't the one creating the stories, I can't help but see just a tiny bit of a slant, just a tiny tiny bit. For example, one of the huge issues is the PS3 tied-in with Blu-Ray. You can't deny that a topic about Blu-Ray/HD DVD is a topic about Sony/PS3. Anyways, this was posted:

http://www.hardocp.com/news.html?news=MjM0OTEsLCxobmV3cywsLDE=
"Adult DVD Industry Supports HD-DVD"
"porn industry is backing HD-DVD"
When you click the link the original article says "Top Porn Producer Shifts Loyalty from Blu-ray to HD DVD." That's just one porn producer saying he made the switch.
How do you go from "One Producer" to "Porn Industry?"

There were also rebuttals to this report by several porn producers saying they are actually coming out on Blu-Ray first, or rebutting the claim the BD camp refused to help them with production, etc. No reports of that.

 

[HardOCP News]

I like to keep the word

PORN

out of our headlines whenever possible. Also, we need to keep all of our news headlines limited to a certain number of words to keep them from making overlapping headlines. The sotry said "He also indicated that many of the adult video houses were embracing HD DVD because of that format's lower cost of production". Anyhow, it doesn't take but one second to read the actual newspost to see what the story is....

....but you might be on to something becasue truthfully..I HATE the idea of a $500 DVD player. The only thing I hate more? A $1,000 DVD player.