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Dell U2311H
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Is it really worth it to replace my Samsung XL2370 (LED backlit TN) with this monitor? My biggest problem is that when i lean back in my chair dark movies, and maybe dark games are the most problematic (for example Ninja Gaiden 2 on X360), they are almost unenjoyable, thanks to the TN gamma shift they become very dark, and bad looking, if I stand up they'll look good from an upper angle...
On this video review black almost always looks bad, if you don't watch it from the center.
Has someone tried darker movies/games on this monitor already? Isn't it disturbing if you don't watch it from head on? The screen doesn't lose the details from non-center viewing angles? Also won't darker things looks washed out? (leaning back is the most important, for movies and console gaming)
Is it still much better than a TN panel like this?...
One thing that I noted was that I believe he used out-of-the-box settings. Based on the TFTCentral review posed just after it, out-of-the-box means 75% brightness. TFTC also says that the dark level decreases (gets darker) as brightness goes down. This leads me to believe that if you lower the brightness to a more color-accurate level, that the purple/orange tint will be much less severe and probably minimal (especially in the 20%-0% brightness range). It's also a worst-case scenario" full black screen when all lights off. I don't believe anyone should use and LCD with the lights off as I have read small studies of increased eye strain in such conditions. Maybe you could e-mail the guy, ask him to follow up on such settings and let you know what he sees. I think a few of us would be interested in what you find.
Whelp, I ordered mine on 5/23 and my ship date is after yours. Guess I need to go crack some skulls at Dell again.
Hi everyone, first post here. I registered after reading through this thread, because I'm thinking of replacing my current monitor with a dual screen setup, and I'm hoping for some pointers. I'm considering either the 2209WA or the U2311H.
I currently have a Samsung T220HD "Rose Black" 22" monitor. It's very good all-round, and I picked it solely because it got good reviews at the time (Fall 2008). I use it for pretty much everything: gaming, movies and work. I find I'm lacking in workspace though. I could get a second similar monitor, but it's difficult to find, and I want to upgrade from TN to IPS. I've also started programming and writing more with my studies, so being able to pivot the monitor to a vertical position is a determining factor.
It seems that both monitors have pros and cons that nearly cancel each other out when the two are compared, with the exception that the U2311H has some panel issues; namely tinting and what seems like a poor viewing angle, as seen in the video review posted above. Is the 2209WA a better choice simply because it's a proven design?
What bothers me with the U2311H is the aspect ratio and consequently, the "weird" resolution. 16:9 might be suitable for movies, but less so for most other PC applications. Many games still have 16:10 as standard, even if that number is dwindling, maybe because of the increasing number of console ports. It seems to me that 16:9 is becoming a standard in the monitor market (I remember the first 21.5" monitors introduced a year ago or so). So maybe it's a better investment, compatibility wise. I wish all monitors were 16:10, but that seems to be wishful thinking. Also, with two Ati Radeon 4650HD video cards set up in Crossfire, the increased resolution might take a significantly higher toll than my current 1650x1080 (especially in gaming).
The aspect ratio becomes a problem in a dual monitor setup though, as the total space ends up becoming very, very wide. At my viewing distance, about half a meter, it can become quite overwhelming, I suppose. And it might end up being "too long" in the vertical position, if that's an issue. When gaming or watching movies though, I'm only going to use one monitor (which is kind of a shame as the second might end up not being used that often). The second is for CAD and programming work, as I need a maximum of workspace (e.g. if I want a textfile or such open on one of the monitors). If the monitor was 16:10, I wouldn't hesitate for a second, but that would place it in the 24" category and probably increase the price considerably (i.e. U2411H).
And about image quality; I do some photo editing, albeit not professionally. And considering I've been using a TN panel for it up until now, I don't have very high requirements there. But are the aforementioned panel problems really that considerable compared to the 2209WA? Without having actually seen the monitor in action, it's difficult to tell if I'll notice.
To sum it up; I need two (identical) new IPS monitors to replace my current Samsung T220HD 22" TN monitor, for everyday use: movies, gaming and work. I'm hesitating between the 2209WA and the U2311H. I'm also hoping to sell my current monitor, so I'll get one of the new ones "for free" (if I can get a good second-hand price).
I live in Sweden, and there's currently a sale on the U2311H, at €236 (down from €400, very good deal). The 2209WA is listed at €250 (stable price), which makes it the more expensive of the two. I'd appreciate a swift answer, as I'm not sure how long the sale will last! I'll probably order in the morning (currently 01:20 AM here).
Thanks in advance!
I currently have a Samsung T220HD "Rose Black" 22" monitor. It's very good all-round, and I picked it solely because it got good reviews at the time (Fall 2008). I use it for pretty much everything: gaming, movies and work. I find I'm lacking in workspace though. I could get a second similar monitor, but it's difficult to find, and I want to upgrade from TN to IPS. I've also started programming and writing more with my studies, so being able to pivot the monitor to a vertical position is a determining factor.
It seems that both monitors have pros and cons that nearly cancel each other out when the two are compared, with the exception that the U2311H has some panel issues; namely tinting and what seems like a poor viewing angle, as seen in the video review posted above. Is the 2209WA a better choice simply because it's a proven design?
What bothers me with the U2311H is the aspect ratio and consequently, the "weird" resolution. 16:9 might be suitable for movies, but less so for most other PC applications. Many games still have 16:10 as standard, even if that number is dwindling, maybe because of the increasing number of console ports. It seems to me that 16:9 is becoming a standard in the monitor market (I remember the first 21.5" monitors introduced a year ago or so). So maybe it's a better investment, compatibility wise. I wish all monitors were 16:10, but that seems to be wishful thinking. Also, with two Ati Radeon 4650HD video cards set up in Crossfire, the increased resolution might take a significantly higher toll than my current 1650x1080 (especially in gaming).
The aspect ratio becomes a problem in a dual monitor setup though, as the total space ends up becoming very, very wide. At my viewing distance, about half a meter, it can become quite overwhelming, I suppose. And it might end up being "too long" in the vertical position, if that's an issue. When gaming or watching movies though, I'm only going to use one monitor (which is kind of a shame as the second might end up not being used that often). The second is for CAD and programming work, as I need a maximum of workspace (e.g. if I want a textfile or such open on one of the monitors). If the monitor was 16:10, I wouldn't hesitate for a second, but that would place it in the 24" category and probably increase the price considerably (i.e. U2411H).
And about image quality; I do some photo editing, albeit not professionally. And considering I've been using a TN panel for it up until now, I don't have very high requirements there. But are the aforementioned panel problems really that considerable compared to the 2209WA? Without having actually seen the monitor in action, it's difficult to tell if I'll notice.
To sum it up; I need two (identical) new IPS monitors to replace my current Samsung T220HD 22" TN monitor, for everyday use: movies, gaming and work. I'm hesitating between the 2209WA and the U2311H. I'm also hoping to sell my current monitor, so I'll get one of the new ones "for free" (if I can get a good second-hand price).
I live in Sweden, and there's currently a sale on the U2311H, at €236 (down from €400, very good deal). The 2209WA is listed at €250 (stable price), which makes it the more expensive of the two. I'd appreciate a swift answer, as I'm not sure how long the sale will last! I'll probably order in the morning (currently 01:20 AM here).
Thanks in advance!
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At that price, I would go with the U2311H in a heartbeat. I suppose you'll be buying them from Dustin? I reckon their return policy is OK, if you end up with a nasty unit.
Your games will surely suffer, but other than that, there is no real reason to look at the 2209WA. Especially for CAD work, you'll appreciate the increased resolution. It might be akward to correct colours in areas affected by tinting, but it doesn't seem to be that important to you, so I would bite that bullet.
EDIT: You can notice tinting on white or grey backgrounds if you get a sub-par unit. Other than that, it will be hardly noticeable. Unfortunately, this problem is present in pretty much all the monitors at this price range (although not so much in the 2209WA).
Your games will surely suffer, but other than that, there is no real reason to look at the 2209WA. Especially for CAD work, you'll appreciate the increased resolution. It might be akward to correct colours in areas affected by tinting, but it doesn't seem to be that important to you, so I would bite that bullet.
EDIT: You can notice tinting on white or grey backgrounds if you get a sub-par unit. Other than that, it will be hardly noticeable. Unfortunately, this problem is present in pretty much all the monitors at this price range (although not so much in the 2209WA).
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just to add to your confusion - more lines and more pixels is more important than the ratio when thinking about productivity, though I appreciate your dilemma. I find 16:10 more natural.
Have you checked the price of the ZR24W direct from HP in Sweden? Maybe one 1920x1200 is a better compromise than 2x 1680x1050? and you could choose 1920x1080 as the res for gaming to take a little of the load off those graphics cards (it's usually an option, 16:9 has been popular for ages)
Where do your priorities really lie? frame rate for games or productivity?
EDIT: and if you decide to go 1680x1050 look up the price of the Fujitsu P22W-5 ECO IPS, it's probably marginally better than the Dell.
I know the higher the resolution, the better, but I'm generally bothered by 16:9. But, as the market seems to be heading that way, and that it might not just be fad, maybe one might as well get it now. I'm buying these monitors for two years of use minimum. I've had my current one for nearly two years, and the only reason I'm changing is for the bigger workspace. It's still a very good monitor, and it's generally a pretty stable market with high second-hand values (screen is in very good condition, no dead pixels). Do you think I could get €200 for my T220HD? If so, I wouldn't hesitate getting a second monitor right away.
I might as well go for a higher resolution, as I'm stepping up from TN to IPS. I'll probably want to get 23-24" eventually. I've noticed that I slowly get accustomed to the workspace I have available, and in the end, want more. I'm trying to be a little proactive and delay the next "upgrade". Before my Samsung, I had an ancient 17" LCD from 1998 (don't remember the brand). Sticking to 22" 1650x1080 doesn't feel like a major upgrade, and buying a single 24" monitor doesn't really give me the same value for my money (even though I could step up the quality). Don't get me wrong though, if I had the budget for it I'd get dual 24" monitors.
My priorities should lie in productivity, and associatively in multitasking CAD and programming. But I sometimes find myself gaming and watching movies/TV series either way, so I'm not going to deny those two as uses for the monitor. The aspect ratio only becomes somewhat of a problem in games. I don't think the step up in resolution is that much of a strain on the video cards, I can always reduce antialiasing. I'm a little worried about sidescrolling between the monitors though, it's a pretty wide workspace.
I'm going to go ahead and order two Dell U2311H from Dustin right now, before the sale ends; thanks to Sweden's awesome return policy laws, I have 14 days to decide if I want to keep them or not. And Dustin is a good reseller. I'll just keep them in their packaging until the tint issues and such are more resolved; I expect there to be more reviews and comparative analyses (especially with the 2209WA) soon. Either way it would be great to not have to use alt+TAB anymore.
How does Dell generally handle panels? Do they have a lottery like Samsung did with some of their monitors? I really don't want them to sneak a PVA panel into mine. After reading this thread it seems most people got similar panels.
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Well, I used to have a 16:10 monitor but now I mostly use my 16.4'' 1920x1080 laptop. I miss the extra vertical space, but it's hardly a dealbreaker. Especially since I am considering going the same route as you and buy 2 1920x1080 23''. Besides, for you 1920x1080 is actually an upgrade in vertical real estate. You get more 30 pixels to play with than you get with your current monitor.
I can't comment on the resale value of your monitor because, well, I just don't know anything about the swedish second-hand market;still, if you were selling it in Portugal, I'd say you wouldn't get more than €150. Probably more like €125.
Again, even for productivity, you'll benefit from the increased resolution, despite it being 16:9. Don't worry too much about sidescrolling, you'll just adapt. You might have to play with your mouse definitions for a bit, but you'll get there.
That makes a world of difference to me. I can't tell you how much happier I am with being able to have 2 apps running side by side. The extra 200-something pixels when comparing to 1680x1050 are incredibly useful.
Dell used to have a lottery just like that too. But you don't have to worry about that now. It hasn't happened for a while and since IPS panels are a lot cheaper now, it wouldn't make much sense.
What you have to worry about, though, is uneven backlighting and tinting. If you don't have noticeable problems with those, then you're scot free.
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Also I heard that this monitor is only 8 bits (6+2), isn't that more like a TN in terms of color reproduction? The problem with 6+2 bits are that the dark shades of gray doesn't look that good like they should on a real 8 bit panel, dark movies and games are suffering from this.
Is there a big difference between this monitor and 2209wa in this aspect? Or this isn't that big a problem with IPS panels like on TNs?..
Is there a big difference between this monitor and 2209wa in this aspect? Or this isn't that big a problem with IPS panels like on TNs?..
I have two questions about the u2311h for owners.
First, the Wide Mode setting. What happens when you switch it from 'fill' to '4:3'? Will that make a game that displays full screen at an aspect ratio that isn't the same as the LCD's keep its source aspect ratio (so for example, 1024x768 would have black bars on each side instead of being stretched)? I ask because I have lot of games that only support 4:3 aspect ratios, like Telltale's Sam & Max episodic releases, and I prefer them not distorted.
Secondly, how is FPS gaming on this monitor. Is anyone seeing ghosting (however minor)?
Thanks,
First, the Wide Mode setting. What happens when you switch it from 'fill' to '4:3'? Will that make a game that displays full screen at an aspect ratio that isn't the same as the LCD's keep its source aspect ratio (so for example, 1024x768 would have black bars on each side instead of being stretched)? I ask because I have lot of games that only support 4:3 aspect ratios, like Telltale's Sam & Max episodic releases, and I prefer them not distorted.
Secondly, how is FPS gaming on this monitor. Is anyone seeing ghosting (however minor)?
Thanks,
IPS panels are all true 8 bits. TN panels are 6bit+2.
Are you sure about this? At the shop I wanted to buy an U2311H they said that they are sure it is 6+2 bit only, they said the same about LG W2220P a few weeks ago, for example 2209wa is 8+2 bits.
If it's sure that it is true 8 bit, I'd buy it...
It's an IPS panel, that's true 8-bit.
That sounds much better!
I don't know where they got the information, that it's only 6 bit then... they even said that the LG W2220P is much worse than 2209wa because it isn't true 8-bit.
So an IPS/eIPS panel is always at least true 8 bit?
If that's the case it should be much better than my current XL2370 and I'll probably buy it next week.
Well, he said he used 31 brightness, and 60 contrast in the video review, which is probably under 120cd/m, and I don't think many people will use it at lower settings.
Many games and movies have darker scenes, where is a lot of black, and dark details in the backgrounds, so I'm afraid that if I don't watch it from head on in this cases it could be even worse than a TN panel (only in this case, of course, but this matters for me too).
Also I'm using my monitors usually around 170-180 cd/m setting, maybe my room is too bright, but 120 cd/m calibrated settings looks too dark for me (at least on TN panels, which I've had so far), it could be OK for browsing and text editing, but for games and movies this is the minimal setting which is looking good for me. So, if I understand right the glow/tint problem could be even worse at a setting like this, it doesn't sound that promising. Or can an IPS monitor generally display better quality, brighter images even at a lower brightness level? I always see 120/140 cd/m calibration targets on review sites.
Overall I'd be much happier if this monitor would be the same quality as 2209wa, only 23", and a higher resolution.
Ooo... I missed that part. Is there anyone that can tell us what the luminescence is at 31bright & 60con?
From what I understand and make of it all, ambient (aka the room's) lighting will effect your perception of the blackness level. The brighter the room, the darker the black will seem due to the contrast difference. If there's already color on the screen, your eyes will pick up the brighter light in favor over the darker light as well, because the darker light will be lower than the just noticeable difference. It will vary from person to person as some are more sensitive and trained to certain differences than others, usually people who do color sensitive work.
I think the 120cd/m is an unwritten standard to be similar to the brightness of a plain sheet of paper. It may also be to ease eyestrain and to get the most accurate color reproduction in terms of brightness.
If anything I've said is incorrect, please correct me
Still looking for another view of the U2211H. I liked TFTcentral's review, but I'd like more of them to see how consistent TFT's findings are.
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Ordered June 14th, delayed to July 14th.
what's the issue with Dell.. are they having problems with the panel display manufacturing? I'm thinking about ordering one but I'm moving in a month and I don't want it to be shipped to a defunct address
It's the parts they use to assemble the panels. They are backordered due to the extremely high-demand.
Epic monitor setup! I've got two side-to-side on a small table, making them look even bigger. Out of the box, they're really great. I love how Windows 7 automatically sets them to an extended desktop, didn't have to do anything.
However, I'd like to find the optimal settings, so I need to calibrate them. Not sure how though. Is there a guide anywhere? I'll post pics once they're calibrated. So far I haven't noticed the contrast change with viewing angle so much, nor any noticeable tint. First observations show no dead pixels, so I guess I got two good monitors.
However, I'd like to find the optimal settings, so I need to calibrate them. Not sure how though. Is there a guide anywhere? I'll post pics once they're calibrated. So far I haven't noticed the contrast change with viewing angle so much, nor any noticeable tint. First observations show no dead pixels, so I guess I got two good monitors.
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Regarding the anti-glare coating. When people mention it is distracting/annoying/grainy, is that relative to glossy screens? other ips screens? or TN/VA matte screens?
I see the AG as being very typical, I think it's to an ISO standard and all the IPS panels are manufactured by LG. They all tend to end up quite similar - it's LG's interpretation of the requirement. I don't see much difference between the 2209, 2311 or the older 26" Hazro I had for a while.
I've used monitors with worse AG and some with better. Including some TN's by HP and ASV by EIZO (ASV is rare for a monitor) One TN in particular I remember had a noticeably more aggressive AG coat than these Dell products, and there is (or was) an NEC S-PVA that was really bad for its' harsh AG. I say the panel type is less of an indication of the AG than the intended customer for the display. Dell will probably always stay close to the middle ground as they are selling to home users and business.
I prefer most of the TVs I see as they are less grainy without being reflective. My personal taste is to have only a small amount of AG, but I think Apple go too far with their extreme glossy design.
I've used monitors with worse AG and some with better. Including some TN's by HP and ASV by EIZO (ASV is rare for a monitor) One TN in particular I remember had a noticeably more aggressive AG coat than these Dell products, and there is (or was) an NEC S-PVA that was really bad for its' harsh AG. I say the panel type is less of an indication of the AG than the intended customer for the display. Dell will probably always stay close to the middle ground as they are selling to home users and business.
I prefer most of the TVs I see as they are less grainy without being reflective. My personal taste is to have only a small amount of AG, but I think Apple go too far with their extreme glossy design.
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Hrm, for some reason the U2311h was taken off of Dell Small Business today. I called them and they didn't know why it was taken off. Damn, I was just about to order two of these to do eyefinity with my NEC EA231WMi! Had a 20% off coupon + 10% off BCB too!
Do you think this will work well with the EA231WMi since they use the same panel? I'm hoping since the panels are identical that Eyefinity will let me use bezel comp.
Do you think this will work well with the EA231WMi since they use the same panel? I'm hoping since the panels are identical that Eyefinity will let me use bezel comp.
Yeah I noticed that last night when I was buying my U2211H. My guess is that they are smart again and are doing what they did last year with the 2209WA: when the shipping is going to be delayed for a month+, take it off the site to stop teasing people with something they can't deliver right now.
I think it'll work alright with the EA231WMi since they use the same panel, but you'll probably run into a little bit of a difference between NEC's QC and Dell's QC. The colors may not match quite as well as they would if they were all NECs. Does the NEC have a DP? Otherwise the NEC will be off to the side and probably not as noticeable since it won't be the one right in front you with the sides looking a bit different.
I'll be sure to take pictures and stuff of the U2211H if anyone's interested. I'm stoked about it
. I have a feeling I'll get used to the 16x9 alright, and I'll definitely be using the pivot function when I program and write papers. I kind of forgot about the BCB and didn't look into it, but I got it for $238.82 with the 20% off coupon for signing up for Small Business. Kind of strange the $10 off normally didn't stack, but I'm not all that concerned.FaRKle0079
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I'm not sure that's the case. I had called them earlier in the day to see when they'd get the EA231WMi back in stock, and when I asked about the U2311h the rep told me it'd ship out within 10-15 days. Plus, the U2311h is still on Dell Home.
Yup, sure does have a displayport. I'm running it off of that right now. If only Dell SB had the EA231WMi in stock right now I wouldn't hesitate to buy it since it has a smaller stand and cable management. Unfortunately the rep told me it'd be a good while before they came back in. I'm not sure if he was lying to me to try to get me to buy the U2311h or what though.
Quick question: Is there a way for the computer to auto-detect the vertical pivot on the U2311H and adjust the display to "portrait" mode accordingly?
I have having to go into the Win 7 display settings. I don't change the monitor to portrait mode that often, but it's still annoying.
I have having to go into the Win 7 display settings. I don't change the monitor to portrait mode that often, but it's still annoying.
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I dont think it'll auto detect it since it's a driver/OS level thing. Instead of going thru the Win7 display settings you can get to the option faster thru your drivers. For me I open CCC, go to desktop properties and under "rotation" select portrait.
Yeah, I use Ati Catalyst, but it still feels like a workaround. The option should be in the display menu on the monitor. But maybe that's not possible.
Another annoying problem is the inability to clone the taskbar onto an extended desktop monitor. I know there's third party software for this, but I refuse to have something running just for that, when it should've been integrated in Win 7.
Another annoying problem is the inability to clone the taskbar onto an extended desktop monitor. I know there's third party software for this, but I refuse to have something running just for that, when it should've been integrated in Win 7.
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Thanks for the response. I asked around a bit, and the impression I got was that it seems to mainly bother people who were coming from glossy screens or those that prefer them. I'm pretty used to AG coatings myself, as the only screens I use that are glossy are laptops (more due to lack of choice then preference).
Mainly just have to decide whether to roll the dice on a good panel or deal with the back and forth returns, seeing as I can't seem to find any of the 20%coupon+10%cash back incentives here in Canada, with those, it'd be an easy decision.
For me it seems to be a choice between "controlled" non uniformity due to the technology (TN) or random non uniformity due to manufacturing quality (e-ips).
Don't own one of these yet, but here is a utility that offers keyboard shortcuts for rotation
http://www.entechtaiwan.com/util/irotate.shtm
worked for me on windows 7.
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Just reiceved my replacement after a whole five weeks. Sheesh. And yep, i got backlight bleeds and tinting problems:
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Those were taken with a webcam. I'll try to do better later, but you can really see it. You can't see it when facing straight to the monitor, but just as you start moving around its like there's this translucent film constantly changing color (usually blue or purple) depending on your viewing angle. Its only visible on a complete black screen but its there. There's also something really strange which can be seen only on a completely black screen, and that is what i can only describe as hidden "markings", sort of a like an invisible tapestry, which again can only be seen on a black screen (and that only through the reflection of the coating). My cameria isn't good enough to pick it up so i can't really show you what it looks like. And speaking of the coating, it is indeed a bit grainy.
For 250$ i suppose it isn't bad, but still. Screen still looks much better then my old TN monitor, particularly when playing video games, which look absolutely glorious, the difference is like night and day. Movies look a bit grainy but that's probably due to the enlarged size.
Considering all the trouble i went through to get it, i think i'll just keep it the way it is and upgrade to something else when a LED IPS hits the market at a reasonable price.
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Those were taken with a webcam. I'll try to do better later, but you can really see it. You can't see it when facing straight to the monitor, but just as you start moving around its like there's this translucent film constantly changing color (usually blue or purple) depending on your viewing angle. Its only visible on a complete black screen but its there. There's also something really strange which can be seen only on a completely black screen, and that is what i can only describe as hidden "markings", sort of a like an invisible tapestry, which again can only be seen on a black screen (and that only through the reflection of the coating). My cameria isn't good enough to pick it up so i can't really show you what it looks like. And speaking of the coating, it is indeed a bit grainy.
For 250$ i suppose it isn't bad, but still. Screen still looks much better then my old TN monitor, particularly when playing video games, which look absolutely glorious, the difference is like night and day. Movies look a bit grainy but that's probably due to the enlarged size.
Considering all the trouble i went through to get it, i think i'll just keep it the way it is and upgrade to something else when a LED IPS hits the market at a reasonable price.
Got my replacement today. This one is just as big of a POS as the 1st one. On a side note everything about Dell sucks. There quality, customer service, time till delivery, phone reps.....the list is long and they fail in every regard. Leave it to Dell to find a way to make an IPS panel inferior to a crappy TN panel. Yah TN's suck but atleast it's not half one color on one side and another color on the other half.
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Does this monitor have the "dusty/grainy" look that almost all non-glossy screen monitors suffer from? I don't know how people can stand looking at dusty speckles all the time.
I'm still looking for an alternative to the Apple 24" IPS LED Glossy Cinema Display.
I'm still looking for an alternative to the Apple 24" IPS LED Glossy Cinema Display.
Actually, not at all as much as I thought. My previous TN monitor gathered dust like 19th century furniture, but these are pretty much dust-free. And I live in a century-old non-ventilated apartment, where it gets really dusty. Case in point: my PC case is covered with dust after just a few hours of use, while I've barely had to clean the monitors yet.
I don't see why everyone is complaining. I don't want to do some free advertising for Dell, but I'm barely noticing the tint (and I have very good eyesight), and the backlight bleeding is about the same as any other monitor in this price range. It's really not fair to compare it to a high-end Eizo monitor, is it? You get what you pay for, and please, try to find a monitor with better bang for buck than this one in this pricerange. Especially with the discount. All I know is the two U2311H I bought are a major step up from my Samsung T220 TN monitor. Sure, I wouldn't mind having dual 24" Apple displays, but I'd have to pay 5 times more.
But yeah, the 2209WA is still a very good alternative, I guess.
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I can't see any tinting or backlight bleed.