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Dell 2001FP Review

lphatlanta

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I bought the Dell 2001FP for my custom machine at home which I built for multimedia. I wanted a large format high-resolution display for under $1000 but didn’t want a 16:9 format screen.

Decided I'd do a review for the forum.

I had some doubts about the monitor when I bought it...was even considering canceling the order after reading a slightly negative review but now I'm glad I didn't.
The 2001FP 's picture had initially disappointed me until I tweaked my video card settings on the ATI9800Pro AIW.
You absolutely have to enable "reduce DVI frequency on high-resolution displays" under the OPTIONS tab of the ATI properties.
Viola! Made a huge difference. Text became crystal clear, colors more saturated and contrast was improved. I’m not sure if the Nvidia cards have this adjustment or not but most all of the newer ATI cards do. I will check the Nvidia card properties on the CAD machines at work and post that later.
This might be the reason why some on this forum have experienced screen flicker and/or blurring on this display.

I have a Samsung 193P, Sony HS94P/S, and two Eizo CG18’s on machines in my office. I almost purchased a 193P for this home machine but wanted a 20” screen and quite frankly was curious about the Dell.
Since the Eizo display is professional grade and the fact that it is more than double the cost of the 2001FP I’m not going to use it in my comparison. Even tough I will say that the Dell came damn close in many respects, especially color reproduction.
Compared to the 193P and the HS94P the 2001FP is right in there with them if not superior in several ways.
The text reproduction is outstanding...as good as the 193P and far better than the Sony.
Colors are almost as good as the Samsung and again every bit as good as the Sony. Gamma is very good at default...this time besting the Sony and the Samsung. Color calibration using “Natural Color” software confirmed that the default settings using the Dell’s ICM profile were extremely accurate.
Even under bright (although color corrected) fluorescent lighting the screen is well lit and easy on the eyes. There is no eyestrain viewing this monitor either…the Sony and its XtraBright mirrored coating make it hard to read text for any length of time. And yes the surface of the Sony is like a mirror when at black and yes you can see some reflections even when it’s in use.
Of course I view the monitor’s under normal incandescent lighting as well especially while watching DVD’s and gaming.

As for Game play...fantastic! :cool:
Doom3 is AMAZING at 1600 x 1200 resolution with the ATI 3D engine at maxed out settings. Ghosting was minimal...as good or better than the Sony or the Samsung. There was no perceptible blurring or screen flicker. The same was true for Far Cry and even though the games a snooze, URU’s graphics were really spectacular also.
It’s not quite CRT quality when it comes to game play but neither is the $1700 Eizo reference LCD! The technology’s just not quite there yet. But CRT’s are big, hot and the eyestrain is a killer.

The main feature that makes the Dell display shine is it’s high resolution of 1600 x 1200 and 20.5 inch screen size.
This is the preferred resolution for most graphic designers and CAD operators. It is also considerably more important for serious gamers. The detail reproduction is superior and the larger screen size does make a difference!
The Sony and Samsungs native resolution is 1280 x 1024...no comparison there. Of course some games require a drop in resolution as well as some apps…even then the 2001FP displayed a very nice image.

Inputs on the Dell are amazing also: Analog RGB, Digital DVI-D, TMDS, S-Video, and Composite Video. You can even add a sound bar to the bottom of the display…but it’s not something I would ever use. The sound quality isn’t supposed to be that great.
Controls are onboard and concise, with an input selector on the front panel! Some settings are not available in DVI mode as opposed to VGA. I have not tested this monitor in VGA mode, but why would anyone want to run a display with this resolution on VGA in the first place?
Another lesser-known feature is that this display supports PIP. It has a good size stationary window at the upper right corner of the screen. I connected a VCR and a Digital Camcorder to the inputs and it worked beautifully.
I’m going to purchase a mini-cam and hook up to the input as a security monitor in the future. This is a feature usually found only in $1000+ displays.
There are also 4 USB 2.0 connections on the display, two on the back and two on the side for easy access even though I don’t use them.
The pivot feature to portrait mode is most excellent and using the ATI built in rotation adjustment makes it a snap.
It makes web pages with lots of text a breeze to read...same for accounting software.

DVD playback was excellent. Very smooth and clean.
The Sony was the leader of the pack until I saw The Matrix on the Dell display.
The 16ms response rate is every bit as good as the Sony's 12ms...if not better. And YES, the Dell's response time is 16ms. I talked to Dell's tech support (good luck understanding them) and they said the 24ms posted on the web site a while back was an error.
The black level could have been a little better. It was definitely better than the Sony...with only a slight amount of backlighting showing thru at the perimeter. This is only really noticeable viewing a DVD in letterbox, but even then it wasn’t that distracting.
The Samsung has slightly superior blacks, though.

Even though the Dell’s design is a little on the clunky side compared to the Sony and not as simple and elegant as the Samsung, it is still pleasing to look at. The quality is excellent and the base is extremely stable…much more so than the Sony, which the cat toppled over just by brushing by it.
Cable control could be better…but about the same as the Sony. The Samsung again was superior there.
The great thing about the design though, is that the display is a completely separate unit from the base. It can be detached and wall mounted with a standard VESA mount (not included).
There were no dead or stuck pixels on the 2001FP, but this was true of the Samsung and Sony as well.

Lastly, viewing angle is extremely good…again besting both the Sony and the Samsung. The base adjusts in height an impressive 6 inches and the display tilts forward and backwards for easy viewing.

To sum up, the Dell 2001FP is a great display…especially when you consider the wealth of features, inputs, screen size and the screen resolution of 1600 X 1200.
I purchased it for $719 from dell with free shipping. That deal is still good on Dell’s Home and Small Business website as of this date.

I hope this little review helps someone in making an informed buying decision.
 
Thanks for the review.

Questions:

1. How is 1600:1200 text compared to 1280:1024 - too small?
2. Text clarity on hs94p - is it extremely ugly or a little worse than dell/samsung.

Also - can not seems to access your pictures.
 
Can't see the pictures as of now, links seems to not work.

I'm going to speak my mind a little bit and wonder if it was just user bias against the 193P, especially color-wise.

Did you re-calibrate the 193P along with the 2001FP? And do you have pictures that shows the saturation between the two? As a graphic designer with an LCD in mind, the Samsung's 800:1 ratio (I doubt it's actually 1000:1) is very "inviting."
 
I just picked up a 2001FP last week and I have to say I absolutely love it. I just can't believe how bright and clear it seems next to my CRT monitors (NEC 955DF and Sony G400). I have played a little UT2k4 at 1600x1024 and it looks amazing. I haven't noticed any movement ghosting. The only drawback I've had is that I bought it used and it didn't come with the DVI cable (I'll be getting one shortly), so I am only using the VGA cable and there is a noticible amount of ghosting of text and stuff on the screen (I'm not quite sure what the right term for this is). But for an analog connection at 1600x1200, I can't believe how nice it looks.

Anyway, nice thorough review!
 
Hey guys,
The answers to your questions are as follows:

Imike: The higher resolution makes text really small at the normal DPI of 96.
I use a custom setting of 115 DPI and it's very readable...and I do have pretty average eyesight.
A setting of 120 DPI would be even easier to read and shouldn't give you much compatibility problems with programs.
I do know of one...Roxio’s Media Creator 7 has a bug in Label Creator. It only functions properly between 96 and 105 DPI. Anything larger and whatever prints seems to be cut off a bit short.
Other than that I don't know of a problem
The text on the HS94P just seems a bit blurry to me. I know there are lots of guys that say it's "crystal clear" in these forums but what are they comparing it to? I ran thru our local Frys today and saw them at just about all of their little display kiosks for games and such. They do look great with "Flight Simulator" or "Far Cry" on them in demo mode, but when you look at one with a web page up it's just plain blurry.
Sony does a good job of hype…and Sony aficionados do the same. If it says “Sony” it’s got to be good. Wrong. Sony makes some absolutely terrible consumer electronics and generally overpriced at that...but they know how to market!
I try to look at a product from a broad perspective. If someone is a "gamer" and that's pretty much his focus on a PC then he is generally looking more for response time than anything else.
That is why so many folks are jumping on the Sony HS94P bandwagon.
I think it's a fine monitor for gaming, but for someone that wants it all there is no question that the Dell is a superior product with the Samsung not far behind.
The staunch gamer should wait for the new 8ms panels due out next Spring-Summer by Viewsonic and BenQ as well as others. Viewsonic has plans for release as early as November-December of this year but that remains to be seen. They will probably be considerably more expensive and the technology used to produce the panels offers limited viewing angles.

EGGO:
I think you misunderstood my review...I love the 193P! I have a review of it compared to the Sony HS94P/S here: http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=812744
It is a fantastic display, and I would highly recommend it for graphics work.
We have one on our machine running Photoshop and Macromedia Studio MX...probably some of the most intensive graphics software out there besides AutoCAD.
The color on the 193P is superior to either the Sony or the Dell. Also it has the truest black level and the most even backlighting. It is defiantly the most elegantly designed display on the market…a real work of “engineering art”.

I calibrated all the displays with "Natural Color" because it's effective and quick. We use “MonacoOptixPro” at the office but its way too time intensive to set up and "Natural Color" is almost as accurate.
I also used the included ICM color profiles for each monitor.
I agree with you that the 193P's contrast ratio isn't 1000:1 unless they were testing it on a $2000 graphics card...but I'd be willing to bet it is close. Probably somewhere between 700 and 800:1 as you noted.
I was just stating that the Dell is just a better buy as an "all around" display.
It has great text, accurate color, and a quick response time with minimal ghosting (no noticeable difference between the Sony and the Dell was detectable to the naked eye). The 193P 20ms response time produced a slightly choppy image watching a few fast paced DVD's and in a few spots playing Doom3 I noticed a little blur but not enough to say it was even a minor problem.

BigBadBiologist:
You don't need convincing. But if you think it looks great in VGA then you'll be thrilled when you hook it up to a DVI output.
Just be sure and buy a really good DVI cable...there are differences in quality and a cheap cable can introduce some visible noise as well as cause some interference in other peripherals as well.
A "good" cable will cost you at least $45-$50 and an "excellent” one (like Monster or Display Magic) between $90-$100. The Display Magic is my pick…and worth every cent.
Get it here: http://www.bettercables.com/dvidcables.html?source=OVERTURE
Don't buy it from Radio Shack...they suck, and stay away from the Belkin cables sold thru Dell.


The other big deciding factors for the Dell are a dozen features that neither the Samsung or the Sony share with it:
1. 1600 X 1200 resolution display using a Genesis Malibu chipset...one of the latest high end display chipsets available which produces an UXGA signal, not the more common SXGA. This is professional graphics quality
hardware.
2. Bigger screen…20.1" as compared to 19".
3. Lots of inputs: Analog RGB, Digital DVI-D, S-Video, and Composite Video.
4. The screen pivots to portrait mode...and it does it effortlessly.
5. The base extends an extra 7" in height with the tough of a button and a pull.
6. OSD controls let you have control over screen positioning and include gamma adjustments in DVI mode.
7. Input selectors...right up front on the panel along with the menu controls.
8. PIP...can't believe the Sony doesn't have it. They usually include the PIP feature on their television monitors.
9. USB 2.0 connections...4 of them.
10. Ability to monitor a separate video source in full screen thru it's S-Video input via the OSD without changing cables or using a special multimedia graphics card.
11. The display is a separate unit from the base and can be easily wall mounted with a standard VESA wall mount with a push of a button. The 193P can also be VESA mounted but you have to mount it with its base permanently attached.
12: Cost's less than the Sony or the Samsung without the irritating rebates.

Just to clear this up...I am not biased for Dell in any way.
I think their computers are way over-rated and not what they used to be…some of them are just junk. Their printers are a joke, and their tech support generally stinks.


Sorry about the links for the pics...going to upload them to one of my web sites and will add them to the review when they're available.
Let me know what you guys eventually go with!;)
 
Yes I do believe I misread your review, thanks for the reply.

Since you accompany your detailed reviews with pics, I can only wish some sites would use your review. =0)
 
Ive had mine for about 2 months now. I have a whole vertical line of pixels burnt out and just 1 or 2 others. The line is extremely annoying as it covers the entire screen and is almost in the middle of the screen as well. I just know when I RMA it they will say nothing is wrong with it...
 
I just got done playing some doom 3. wow. 1600x1200. no ghosting. unfreakingbelievable. I'm stunned. wow. wow.
 
The 2001FP is one heck of a value and I really did love mine, until it broke. During that time period a bunch of bad sets seem to have hit the market and it was probably a bad timing thing when I got mine. Now I'm seeing proper reviews again, a good thing.

Enjoy your toy :D
 
I got mine in July. No regrets here even though it cost $770 at the moment and the sandmonkey wouldn't give a refund on the difference though the price dropped $50 the day after I got it. One dead blue subpixel that rubbed back to life. Great panel even though I'm not on DVI. Perfectly even backlight. Very little leakage in the upper right corner. Great for games in general.

Orgasmic playing Serious Sam with those bright colors.

Can't wait to see what the future holds. While I'm in college, I'm sure the 2001FP will become a portrait mode text display while the maybe 30" 3840x2400 dual-dual DVI 6ms (or maybe not even LCD, period) display I spend a car on in 2009 will become my main.
 
I'm another proud Dell2001FP user.
I can recommend the screen. It takes a bit of tweaking to get the text readable at 1600x1200 but it can be done. Reading forums like this in portrait mode are a real pleasure.

I run two PCs off the screen. My new Shuttle runs through the DVI and my old PC which is now my Dowload/DivXing background machine runs through the Analogue. I run the old PC at 1280x960 and it seems to interpolate reasonably well.
I can switch between them at the press of a button.
If I had a gaming console I'd be running that though the S-Video as well.

Recommended to get a good Video Card to be able to play games at 1600x1200. I have a 9800pro and it handles all games (BF1942, Battlefront, Far Cry and UT04) well except for Doom3 where I notice a bit of blurring and stuttering. It runs better at interpolated lower rez but the picture is of course not as sharp.

In reality I think the screen is identicle in performance to the other 20.1" 16ms LCD screens out there. They're all LG screens. Even the ones made by BenQ I suspect are the LG screen produced under license.

The models I am aware of are:
DELL 2001FP
Benq FP2091
LG L2010P
ViewSonic VP201s/b
Philips 200P4VB

In Australia the Dell leads a long way in price but I don't think it's the same in other countries. In the US they seem to all hover around the $700-$800 price range. So you might want to check them out. The Dell with it's plastic case and chunky stand is not as good looking as others I think.

At the moment I think the 20" screen is the best buy for performance and features. If you don't desperatley need a screen now, I think I'd still hold off. Current LCD screens still only have a working life of about 3 years before the backlight will fade. I read someone posting the other day that large long-lasting LED back-lit screens will probably be on the market in 18months-2years. By then LCD screen technology will be at a point where everyone will agree they're better than CRT.
 
bink said:
Ive had mine for about 2 months now. I have a whole vertical line of pixels burnt out and just 1 or 2 others. The line is extremely annoying as it covers the entire screen and is almost in the middle of the screen as well. I just know when I RMA it they will say nothing is wrong with it...

I've RMA'd one to Dell for my sister without problems, they even gave me the option of shipping a new one instantly rather than waiting to receive the deffective unit (which I took advantage of). One of the few times I was ever glad of dealing with a major manufacturer's support dpt. The unit had this thin red line on the left side...
 
Iphatlanta,

Did you ever discover if Nvidia had the option for "reduce DVI frequency for high resolution displays"? I really need to know b/c I have ordered the Dell screen, and I am afraid from what you said that I will be severely disappointed if I dont get an ATI card with that option. Considering that monstrous beating that Nvidia has given ATI recently, it is very difficult for me not to go with Nvidia, but this DVI problem is really holding me up. Thx ahead of time.
 
very nice and well written review. bolsters my confidence in the 2001fp after reading all the flaming towards it over the weekend ^^ i might yet get the 2001fp over the vp201b/213t..but probably because of its lower cost :p
 
No they don't

But I don't think nVidia cards have the issues with hi-res DVI screens that ATi's do anyway.

They probably already run in low-freq.
 
My sister's Dell runs the 2001FP on a GF 5200 and it looks fine... Dunno, text looks clear and the colors looked alright outta the box, don't think it really needed any special options. /shrug
 
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