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Deciding between 2001FP 2005FPW, HELP

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aldy402

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I am seriously contemplating one of the two, this is the pros and cons that I have come up with and would love some feedback from some experienced ppl.

2001FP

pros
a)more real estate
b)less cases of dead pixels
c)less cases of backlighting ? not sure on this one

cons
a)no wide screen, thing of the past
b)lesser specs then the 2005fpw

2005FPW

pros
a)wide screen
b)better specs then the 2001fp
c)wide aspect ratio is the sh!t, new standard in displays

cons
a)crazy stories of dead pixels
b)even more deadly stories about back lighting, which is probably the WORST, I watch a lot of gothic movies

I still cant choose guys, and since the price is the same, that doesnt help either, but im probably not as experienced as you guys so pleaseeeee gimme some feedback
 
I'm most likely going to buy the 2005FPW, I never even considered the 2001FP. I'd probably take a 19" 12ms panel like the Viewsonic over the 2001.
 
ur not scared of backlighting tho?

its really a BIG issue when playing dark games like doom3 or watching dark movies
 
Get the 2005fpw like I did and youll be happy as hell.

You wont EVER go back to 4:3 aspect gaming once you go 16:10.

I had a 21" Viewsonic CRT before this and the 2005 blows me away with the view.

Get the screen size WHERE IT COUNTS BRO.

LOOK IN THE MIRROR, are your eyes side by side? or on top of one another. CASE CLOSED.
 
Well I've had my 2005FPW for a little over 2 weeks now received it on 3/15 and I just love it. I thought about the 2001FP also but I'm so glad I went with the wide screen. I do have some backlight leakage on the lower left but It's not that bad. I think there is even less leakage since I've been using it vrs new out of the box. I have no dead or stuck pixels. I love my wide screen and have no regrets about getting it. I'd love to have another for my 2nd box.
 
I went through the same thing for a long time and finally ordered a 2005FPW the other day. It's always the same price as the 2001FP, it's alot newer, has a faster response time, an integrated power supply, a fairly tight dot pitch (which you don't get with a 19" LCD), plus the wide screen should be cool for games. To me the regular 20" LCD's are too tall. I'd rather scroll my vision left and right than up and down.
I should get it in a couple of days and I'll post my thoughts.
Hopefully the backlight thing isn't too bad. I think just about every LCD I've ever seen has it to some degree.
I would have bought the 2405FPW but that thing is ridiculously big. Amazing specs though.
 
aldy402 said:
ur not scared of backlighting tho?

its really a BIG issue when playing dark games like doom3 or watching dark movies
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I do worry about it, especially since Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory just came out and that game is about as dark as they get. If I'm not happy with it I'll return it and get a refund. I'd love to own a 2450 to take advantage of 1080p HD but I can't afford an SLI setup and bought this 6800GT AGP not too long ago.
 
thanks a lot guys, it was basically pretty unanimous

I am definetly getting the 2005fpw

ill post when I get it
 
The backlight leakage isn't really as bad as people make it out to be. You dont really notice it when your sitting in front of the LCD normally with a black background. Its more noticeable when you view from a distance.

I think it gets better with time though after the LCD has been running for a while.

I dont think you'll regret going with the 2005FPW. Its widescreen and has better specs then the 2001FP.

If you get one with several dead pixels or backlight problems that bother you you can just contact Dell to send you out a new one and pick up the other one.
 
thats true, now the only thing I can do is wait for the next coupon deal.

how often do they come around?
 
I decided on the 2001fp over the 2005fpw. 'Cause there are not alot of widescreen apps out there and because the vertical dimension gives you a comparable 17" screen. Seems like there's alot of wasted space most of the time east and west.
 
Greenwit said:
I decided on the 2001fp over the 2005fpw. 'Cause there are not alot of widescreen apps out there and because the vertical dimension gives you a comparable 17" screen. Seems like there's alot of wasted space most of the time east and west.
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Agreed. Unless you watch a lot of movies and play games that support widescreen, I don't see a reason to choose the 2005FPW over the 2001FP. The 2001FP has more screen estate and generally feels a lot bigger.
 
Not a Dell guy myself but I went with the 4:3 (a pair actually) because of the increased amount of real estate. I do a lot of coding and photoshop work so the more I can fit on the screen, the easier my life is. I have a 16:9 65" TV for the movies so widescreen movies on a 20", 24" or even 30" monitor seems absurd to me :)
 
Greenwit said:
I decided on the 2001fp over the 2005fpw. 'Cause there are not alot of widescreen apps out there and because the vertical dimension gives you a comparable 17" screen. Seems like there's alot of wasted space most of the time east and west.
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Im still waiting for more coupons on the 2005fpw but you brought up some really valid points. Especially the one about being comparable north and south with a 17" monitor.

That 17" point really bothers me, I thought north-south would atleast be comparable to a 19"

are you sure? is it true that the 2001fp doesnt have backlight problems at all?
 
I too weighed the 2001FP vs. the 2005FPW and went with the 2005FPW. I'm glad I did. I got a good one mid-December (no dead pixels, no backlighting, the first one I ordered) and haven't looked back.

Once you go wide you'll never go back, it's that good.

p.s. I use this for gaming with HL2 and WoW. It's great that in WoW all my menus/toolbars, mini-map, etc. are off in the "extra space" because of the wide aspect - effectively giving me a 19" 4:3 ratio monitor of clear uncluttered viewing area in the middle. Widescreens don't feel so claustrophobic when running WoW or FPS's and you can see guys coming at your from the sides faster.
 
The 2005fpw is amazing, it is slightly larger than a 17" north and south (I have my old crappy CRT sitting right next to it) but not by much. I'll say though that I really really like the widescreen, you can run two web pages side by side, games look really great even if they don't support widescreen. Also the 2001 is older and a lot of people think its slower, also most new games WILL support widescreen which makes another great reason to get it instead. My monitor is pretty bad (8+ dead or stuck pixels, and terrible backlighting problems) but I absolutely LOVE it. When I get a quality replacement I won't regret the decision one bit.
 
aldy402 said:
Im still waiting for more coupons on the 2005fpw but you brought up some really valid points. Especially the one about being comparable north and south with a 17" monitor.

That 17" point really bothers me, I thought north-south would atleast be comparable to a 19"

are you sure? is it true that the 2001fp doesnt have backlight problems at all?
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A 20" widescreen LCD will be approximately the same height as a 17" LCD and they both have a similar vertical resolution. That's why the 2001FP feels a lot bigger even though they are both the same size when measured diagonally.

I wouldn't say the 2001FP doesn't have backlight issues at all. I've seen many people complaining about it.
 
aldy402 said:
Im still waiting for more coupons on the 2005fpw but you brought up some really valid points. Especially the one about being comparable north and south with a 17" monitor.

That 17" point really bothers me, I thought north-south would atleast be comparable to a 19"

are you sure? is it true that the 2001fp doesnt have backlight problems at all?
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IIRC, the vertical dimension of the 2005fpw is 10.6 inches. I think this is about I.5 inches less than the 2001fp. I'm using a 20 inch diaganol (viewable screen) at work and the vertical dimension is 12 inches. The 2005fpw is 1 inch longer than the 2001fp. To me, one inch wider doesn't buy me much unless I'm doing widescreen games. On the other hand, when you are photoshoping hi-res images, an extra 1.5 inches north and south is valuable.

BTW, I had two 2001fp.....neither had a bad pixel and each had a some backlighting on the left edge. In the end, I returned the 2001fp and ordered a NEC/Mitsu CRT from Newegg. I really liked the Dell but it was too bright for my eyes.
 
I just bought the 2005FPW and received it on Tuesday. After debating between 4:3 and wide I'm so glad I went with wide. Amazing picture, excellent for doing video editing (timeline) and photo editing, since toolbars all stack up on right or left. I have one blue stuck on pixel only visible on black bkgd. I have some backlighting bleedthru like everyone else in lower left and upper right corners, but really only visible on completely black screen or on super dark DVD. But most good movies are a higher aspect ratio so there is still black bars on the top and bottom so it really doesn't interfere with the picture.

It is true that the future is WIDE :eek: and most apps in the next 2-3 years will be optimzed for that aspect. All of Apple monitors are wide and they often set the trend for PC design. No coincidence that Dell's last 2 monitors are wide.
 
NUWildcat said:
It is true that the future is WIDE :eek: and most apps in the next 2-3 years will be optimzed for that aspect. All of Apple monitors are wide and they often set the trend for PC design. No coincidence that Dell's last 2 monitors are wide.
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Don't count on it. Look at the television industry and how hi-def/widescreen should have been the standard by now. And it isn't. I've had a widescreen television for 5 years and the HD/widescreen programming choices are not considerably better than when I first bought the TV. As far as apps being optimized for widescreen, what might you have in mind. Like Excel/Word/Powerpoint/Access? Irrelevant. Like Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Frontpage, et. al. Irrelevant. DVDs and games. That's all that I can think of. Widescreen makes lots of sense for DVDs, television programming, movie theaters 'cause we all see in landscape mode. As someone else mentioned, our eyes are aligned horizontally, not vertically. And when we are engaged in that type of viewing we are taking in the entire field of view. But when you are sitting in front of a computer monitor, a foot or two away, focusing on one point on the screen when doing work apps or browsing? Eh, no. Sometimes old school fits better than new school. Who knows, maybe a year from now you'll have the computer monitor version of the XFL. ;)
 
the 2005fpw just got slashed to $561.75 while the 2001fp to 599.20

- although the same price before, why is the 2001fp now slightly more expensive?
- should I bite or should I wait for coupons?( just sold my 19"lcd and currently have no monitor, using my brothers)
- do you think they will be more coupons?

thanks
 
does anybody have a pic with the 2001fp and the 2005fpw side by side?

I wanna see a size comparison
 
aldy402 said:
does anybody have a pic with the 2001fp and the 2005fpw side by side?

I wanna see a size comparison
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Pic is here somewhere, do a search, as for size - 2001 is much taller but 2005 is slightly longer, about 17" LCD high
 
Wow, I got my 2005FPW today. Right out of the box this thing is amazing.
Much better than the Viewsonic VP912B I returned. There is a difference between 8 bit per pixel color and the 6+2 bit per pixel that alot of TN monitors have. Much better colors than the Viewsonic. Plus this thing isn't as blindingly bright as the Viewsonic was, even at it's default brightness of 100%. I'm leaving it at 75% for now.
The text is razor sharp on this thing. With the tight dot pitch, it doesn't have the screendoor effect the Viewsonic had. So far I don't see any bad pixels when I make the screen all white or black. I do see a smidge of backlight at the bottom corners but you wouldn't notice it unless you were really looking. The Viewsonic had some backlight along the top.
I'm not knocking Viewsonic, it's just that for about the same price, the VP912B can't compare to this monitor. I paid $501.75 with free shipping and got it 5 days after I ordered it.
As far as size, the panel is much larger than I thought it would be. I can't imagine how big the 2405FPW is. This thing is plenty tall and wide.
I'm curious to try out some games. So far I'm very happy with my choice. I'm sure I would have been just as happy with a 2001FP though, unless I was watching a movie or playing a game.
Oh, it's an A01 version BTW.

Peace.
 
honestly I think I would probably be happy with either or, both are incredible monitors. Im jumping up from the crappy analog only 19" dell lcd. Im just scared that since the 2005fpw's north-south only compares to a 17" , I might feel as if i downgraded.

would I feel that way , real estate wise?
 
When using those SUN workstations with 21" or above monitors in the labs, I always feel that my sight is restriced and can't wait to get back to use my 2005FPW. Granted it's more screen real estate. But wild aspect is more "natural" and I would never go back to a 4:3 monitor.
 
Same here, this thing is tall enough. Any taller and it wouldn't be as comfortable to look at. Of course, I have the thing about 2 feet in front of me. Besides, I downloaded some HD videos from this Microsoft page and that really clinches it. The wide screen format is amazing.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/content_provider/film/contentshowcase.aspx#sysreq

It runs the 720p videos in 16x9 mode with a small black bar at the top and bottom.
I ran Far Cry at the native res and it looked great. My video card choked though, I guess that's the next upgrade. Cripes, and I have an ATI AIW X600 Pro PCIE with 256mb ram.
It's not enough to play games at the native resolution.
 
ChiMan said:
When using those SUN workstations with 21" or above monitors in the labs, I always feel that my sight is restriced and can't wait to get back to use my 2005FPW. Granted it's more screen real estate. But wild aspect is more "natural" and I would never go back to a 4:3 monitor.
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thanks thats a valid point, my friends name is ChiMan also
 
OK im DEFINETLY getting the 2005fpw nowm jus gotta wait for those damn coupons
 
aldy402 said:
the 2005fpw just got slashed to $561.75 while the 2001fp to 599.20

- although the same price before, why is the 2001fp now slightly more expensive?

thanks
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I noticed this as well, at dell small business the price is still listed as $749. I hope this isn't just Dell trying to quickly get rid of returned monitors. I'm starting to have second thoughts about buying this monitor.
 
Aldy before you rush to buy one (like I was about to do) you should read the Dell forums. I've read almost every thread having to do with the 2005FPW. Just today someone asked for an update on the backlighting problem and the thread has been deleted. With the recent drop in price I'm worried. I've also read a lot of horror stories about exchanges and refunds. People typically not receiving their refund after 30 up to 90 days. Man, I so wanted to own this monitor. I think I might try it still.
 
peacetilence said:
Aldy before you rush to buy one (like I was about to do) you should read the Dell forums. I've read almost every thread having to do with the 2005FPW. Just today someone asked for an update on the backlighting problem and the thread has been deleted. With the recent drop in price I'm worried. I've also read a lot of horror stories about exchanges and refunds. People typically not receiving their refund after 30 up to 90 days. Man, I so wanted to own this monitor. I think I might try it still.
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Yup, the company support system is in extreme disarray. I won't bore anyone with long, drawn out stories about product exchanges/returns......I'll just say their incompetence borders on unbelievable. If you happen to get a good 2005fpw with minimal backlighting and few to zero bad pixels, fall to your knees and thank the monitor Gods that you won't have to deal with Dell support.
 
ONCE you play games W I D E S C R E E N you will never go back.

I plugged in my Viewsonic 21" CRT AFTER I used the 2005 and I felt like I was in a tunnel. It sucked so bad I IMMEDIATLY plugged my 2005fpw in again, and gave a HUGE sigh of relief.
 
peacetilence said:
Aldy before you rush to buy one (like I was about to do) you should read the Dell forums. I've read almost every thread having to do with the 2005FPW. Just today someone asked for an update on the backlighting problem and the thread has been deleted. With the recent drop in price I'm worried. I've also read a lot of horror stories about exchanges and refunds. People typically not receiving their refund after 30 up to 90 days. Man, I so wanted to own this monitor. I think I might try it still.
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are you f*ckin serous? this definetly makes me think twice

off to the dell forums...
 
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Originally Posted by peacetilence
Aldy before you rush to buy one (like I was about to do) you should read the Dell forums. I've read almost every thread having to do with the 2005FPW. Just today someone asked for an update on the backlighting problem and the thread has been deleted. With the recent drop in price I'm worried. I've also read a lot of horror stories about exchanges and refunds. People typically not receiving their refund after 30 up to 90 days. Man, I so wanted to own this monitor. I think I might try it still.

Say what you want but I love my 2005FPW. I'd like to have a 2nd one but just can't swing it right now. This monitor is just the bomb. Sure mine has a slight backlight problem in the lower left corner but unless I'm looking for it in a dark room I don't notice it at all. I've watched movies & played games & I don't see where it is a problem. Mine is the Feb rev. I read all the horror stories about this thing & debated about getting it but I figured I had a 21 day testing period to see if I like it or not. But to me it's a GRADE A ASS KICKING MONITOR & i'm very happy with my purchase. Would I recommend one to a friend HELL YES!!!
Just my 2 cents worth.
 
Does anybody known what the size of dot have the 2005fpw?
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SrryForMyUglyEngl.
 
dkd said:
Does anybody known what the size of dot have the 2005fpw?
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SrryForMyUglyEngl.
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Much lower than any other 19-20 inch LCD I've seen, .249 I think. All the more reason it should be an awesome monitor.
 
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