Dead Space 2 - thoughts, opinions?

When you say colour banding. You mean like what you'd get if it was 16bit?

I haven't seen any; I played the PC version for about 3hours yesterday playing in turns (every chapter and/or if one of us got killed); Yeah never saw any issues. Thought it looked great.

We had a hard time fighting the 1st boss, then it dawned that we should shoot his legs, before we were shooting his back, head everything lol..

GOTY contender.
 
Plague_Injected said:
... and you accused him of having no taste because he dared to have a different opinion than you.
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LOL. I never accused Cannondale of having 'no taste'.

What I said was, there's simply no accounting for taste. You obviously have no understanding of what that oft repeated phrase even means; it means that one person might love something, whereas another might hate or dislike it, and that there's no accounting for this. Cannondale was only referring to the color issue anyhow, which he sees and I don't. I was hardly 'accusing him' of anything.

But anyway, we're having a Dead Space 2 discussion here, and those individuals who don't actually own the game, but want to be critical of it anyway... or simply want to disrupt the thread... should really just move on. That's my feeling anyhow.

Dead Space 2 is a great game on the PC... blows away the console version... and I highly recommend it.... a beautiful start to the year.
 
Maximuss said:
When you say colour banding. You mean like what you'd get if it was 16bit?

I haven't seen any; I played the PC version for about 3hours yesterday playing in turns (every chapter and/or if one of us got killed); Yeah never saw any issues. Thought it looked great.

We had a hard time fighting the 1st boss, then it dawned that we should shoot his legs, before we were shooting his back, head everything lol..

GOTY contender.
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two different kinds of color banding going on in this game. in some spots you can see little lines and in other places it does look like lower bit color. you would have to be blind as a bat not to notice it too. its by far the worse color banding I have ever seen. its not quite as bad on my crt so I have resorted to using it. now to be clear the color banding is only in some spots but it is quite horrendous looking. I could post screenshots but its not as noticeable as in the actual game.

I did make a quick video but for some reason it came out really dark. make sure you put it at 1080 and look at the door to the left of the the green sign and at the wall by the can at the end of the video. in fact you can just pause it at 11 or 12 seconds and see the little lines on the wall. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHkQ-QJ6ENU
 
KENNYB said:
You know, there is some ugly color banding. I haven't played much, but even in the opening sequence I can see color banding.
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yeah it was the FIRST thing I noticed when the game started. it pissed me off so much that I fooled with the settings and my monitor for a couple of hours to try and make less noticeable. its good to see finally see other people, even on other forums, noticed it too.
 
Is it just me, or do the chapters in Dead Space 2 seem shorter than those of the original game?

Maybe I'm just enjoying myself too much. Right now, I see myself replaying this, maybe even right away.
 
Any eyefinity or surround users picked this up yet? How's the support out of the box? FoV I'd imagone it would do wonders for this game.
 
That's way off topic lol.

@cannondale06 - Yeah that does look distracting. I hadn't noticed it (saying that I only played a few hours); I'll keep an eye out for that next week when I buy it.
 
Because playing 3rd person games with a locked over the shoulder camera makes me sick, I'll "play" this game via the inevitable many HD quality Let's Play's on youtube.

Wouldn't this game be much better in first person? I don't see what 3rd person adds aside from blocking your view of the game, making aiming/movement awkward, and the gimmick of having the health/ammo meters be represented by lights on his spine.

I played a few hours of DS1 on PS3 but got nauseous. I enjoy the background storyline but hated the design and 3rd person.

Are the envronments and variety improved? The got a bit monotonous in the first game.
 
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Your overzealous defence of every big budget title from EA is truly baffling and more than a little pathetic.
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Wabe's behavior is truly peculiar, he almost advocates that we should worship EA for blessing us with titles on PC, and is quick to condemn anyone who suggests otherwise.

Last time I checked EA was not a charity bringing us PC games out of the goodness of its corporate heart, its a business that sells things....and as a paying customer I have every right to scrutinize and comment upon its products and quality of service by reference to my past experiences and future expectations.

And unlike any other industry or business, software developers seem to have been given a pass when it comes to accountability for the quality of their goods. Anything else, I can go back to the store and demand a replacement or refund, but not software. Bought a broken/buggy unsupported PC game? Tough shit, take a punt on our next release....maybe we will have resolved all the issues by then.

And Wabe wonders why people suspect he is a shill.
 
defiant007 said:
Wabe's behavior is truly peculiar, he almost advocates that we should worship EA for blessing us with titles on PC, and is quick to condemn anyone who suggests otherwise.

Last time I checked EA was not a charity bringing us PC games out of the goodness of its corporate heart, its a business that sells things....and as a paying customer I have every right to scrutinize and comment upon its products and quality of service by reference to my past experiences and future expectations.

And unlike any other industry or business, software developers seem to have been given a pass when it comes to accountability for the quality of their goods. Anything else, I can go back to the store and demand a replacement or refund, but not software. Bought a broken/buggy unsupported PC game? Tough shit, take a punt on our next release....maybe we will have resolved all the issues by then.

And Wabe wonders why people suspect he is a shill.
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Ask him about Ubisoft's DRM. ;)


Honestly, though, I'm really tired of seeing threads derailed with people writing a bunch of long winded thinly veiled personal attacks. If you don't like what Wabe posts, as several of you obviously don't, add him to your ignore list and everyone will be better off for it. Everyone wins. It's that simple. :)


I sure wouldn't mind seeing threads dedicated to games not be derailed by people who don't own the thing and haven't played it yet, either. If you want to have the 50 billionth EA sucks/piracy/DRM argument, please make a seperate thread for it instead? Please? :)
 
defiant007 said:
Wabe's behavior is truly peculiar, he almost advocates that we should worship EA for blessing us with titles on PC, and is quick to condemn anyone who suggests otherwise.

Last time I checked EA was not a charity bringing us PC games out of the goodness of its corporate heart, its a business that sells things....and as a paying customer I have every right to scrutinize and comment upon its products and quality of service by reference to my past experiences and future expectations.

And unlike any other industry or business, software developers seem to have been given a pass when it comes to accountability for the quality of their goods. Anything else, I can go back to the store and demand a replacement or refund, but not software. Bought a broken/buggy unsupported PC game? Tough shit, take a punt on our next release....maybe we will have resolved all the issues by then.

And Wabe wonders why people suspect he is a shill.
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It's not just EA games. He's just a gamer who really loves the games he likes. I think it was the same with Mafia 2 with his defense of that game when it was obvious that it was a rushed 2K turd. Every game has its shortfalls and there will always be people who do not share the same high opinion as others.
 
Spare-Flair said:
It's not just EA games. He's just a gamer who really loves the games he likes. I think it was the same with Mafia 2 with his defense of that game when it was obvious that it was a rushed 2K turd. Every game has its shortfalls and there will always be people who do not share the same high opinion as others.
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Exactly.

It's just not the end of the world although some people act like it is because some guy likes something they don't or vice versa.
 
Spare-Flair said:
Wouldn't this game be much better in first person? I don't see what 3rd person adds aside from blocking your view of the game, making aiming/movement awkward, and the gimmick of having the health/ammo meters be represented by lights on his spine.
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FPS style is my preference 9/10 times as well or a third person vantage point like the Hitman games or some such. Even in those I can zoom in the camera in and out and even zoom in to a first person view for kill shots although I find those games actually play better in third person mode.


I played a few hours of DS1 on PS3 but got nauseous. I enjoy the background storyline but hated the design and 3rd person.
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Fair enough. Nothing can be done about that. Right there I can tell you to not bother with part 2 or this series as a whole because I doubt they'll ever change those things for any future iteration.


Are the environments and variety improved? The got a bit monotonous in the first game.
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I think so but it really boils down to this for everyone:

If you liked part 1 you'll like part 2 at least as much if not more.

If you disliked part 1 for any reason at all (and you do) there's nothing here for you in part 2.
 
Q-BZ said:
add him to your ignore list
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Never thought to do that. Congrats Wabe, you are the first and only person on my [H] ignore list. :D

Reading through this thread again is so much less inflammatory.....aaaahhhh chillzzzzzzzzzz.
 
WabeWalker said:
Is it just me, or do the chapters in Dead Space 2 seem shorter than those of the original game?

Maybe I'm just enjoying myself too much. Right now, I see myself replaying this, maybe even right away.
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I haven't had much of a chance to play the new one, but the original game's chapters amounted to about a 10-12 hour game. From what I've heard this one is no different.
 
I stopped playing games on my PC a few months ago when it really started showing its age and this is the first game that makes me regret not building a new PC.
 
Dan_D said:
I haven't had much of a chance to play the new one, but the original game's chapters amounted to about a 10-12 hour game. From what I've heard this one is no different.
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a lot of people are claiming to finish the game in 7 or 8 hours with no rushing. I don't see how that is possible since it is taking me nearly an hour for each chapter so far. it should take me at least 12-13 hours to finish the 15 chapters at the pace I am going. the first game took me just over 15 hours to complete its 12 chapters.
 
Dan_D said:
I haven't had much of a chance to play the new one, but the original game's chapters amounted to about a 10-12 hour game. From what I've heard this one is no different.
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More or less about right. I'm at Chapter 8 right now and I've taken my time with everything and I'd say I'm certainly going to hit that 7-8 hour mark at least when it's all said and done.

I'm playing on normal. I suspect this timeframe get expanded when someone hits this thing at max difficulty and so forth.


defiant007 said:
Never thought to do that. Congrats Wabe, you are the first and only person on my [H] ignore list. :D

Reading through this thread again is so much less inflammatory.....aaaahhhh chillzzzzzzzzzz.
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See how easy life can be? ;)
 
There's, what, 12 chapters in DS1? So a 10-12 hour playthrough, so that's about an hour a chapter, I certainly hope they're as long in DS2, anything less and I'd feel pretty ripped off if I paid the $60 for it. Funny, because most FPS games are only about 6 these days.

Anyway, friend of mind actually bought DS2 for me on Steam as a gift, just waiting on my HD6950 now.
 
TheOneKnownAsMe said:
There's, what, 12 chapters in DS1? So a 10-12 hour playthrough, so that's about an hour a chapter, I certainly hope they're as long in DS2, anything less and I'd feel pretty ripped off if I paid the $60 for it. Funny, because most FPS games are only about 6 these days.

Anyway, friend of mind actually bought DS2 for me on Steam as a gift, just waiting on my HD6950 now.
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there is no need to wait on the 6950 for this game as even an 8600gt can play it. with your gtx285 you would easily average close to 150fps on highest settings at 1920x1080.
 
Just finished the game and it was a blast. I started a New Game+, but it looks like there is a bug with getting the Elite Suits in NG+. Apparently, the schematics for the Elite Suits don't appear. The devs are aware of the problem and are going to fix it.

http://twitter.com/deadspace
 
cannondale06 said:
there is no need to wait on the 6950 for this game as even an 8600gt can play it. with your gtx285 you would easily average close to 150fps on highest settings at 1920x1080.
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I sold the GTX 285 that is listed in my sig, so I am without a video card, hence why I am waiting on my HD 6950.
 
This game make me jump alot in my chair. I'm only on the first stage. I had to turn it off its so scary.
 
defiant007 said:
Never thought to do that. Congrats Wabe, you are the first and only person on my [H] ignore list. :D

Reading through this thread again is so much less inflammatory.....aaaahhhh chillzzzzzzzzzz.
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Okay, so, philosophical question: if a tree falls in the forest, and there's nobody there to witness it, did the tree really fall?

If this guy can't see what I write, then if I were to write a disparaging remark, then it shouldn't matter, since he can't see it.

Ergo, I should now be allowed to insult him, and be free of moderation... Co-rrect?

Anyway, I can't believe how rapidly I'm advancing through this title. I just bought a new U2711 monitor from Dell and this title is really showing the monitor's potential. It's a cold rainy Saturday night in January too - perfect for staying inside and playing through a new title. I got a roof over my head, a kick-ass setup... Cokes in the fridge... I must be one of the luckiest guys in the world.
 
cannondale06 said:
there is no need to wait on the 6950 for this game as even an 8600gt can play it. with your gtx285 you would easily average close to 150fps on highest settings at 1920x1080.
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I can mostly max out the original Dead Space at 1920x19080 with just a 8600GT.
 
krameriffic said:
I remember playing it about two years ago on an old rig and getting like 200+ FPS most of the time. It was one of the easiest-to-run games I've ever played.
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so 200 fps on a rig that was already considered old two years ago? now don't exaggerate too much because it would take a fairly high end pc to average 200 fps. I average around 125 fps on a pc that was high end and brand new two years ago.
 
OMGWTF moment#142

SPOILER

"Wow - on chapter 6 when you get into the nursery and this baby goes upto the women; then explodes, blood&guts everywhere! I've never seen anything like that."
 
TheBlueChanell said:
Any eyefinity or surround users picked this up yet? How's the support out of the box? FoV I'd imagone it would do wonders for this game.
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I have. The game actually does a pretty good job adjusting the FOV for Surround / Eyefinity resolutions. The only thing I'd like is a way to zoom out even more so the character wasn't so large on screen.
 
Maximuss said:
OMGWTF moment#142

SPOILER

"Wow - on chapter 6 when you get into the nursery and this baby goes upto the women; then explodes, blood&guts everywhere! I've never seen anything like that."
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There are so many hell yeah moments in this game that I've lost track.

It's not a ground breaking title - and I don't think that anybody here would claim such a thing - but Dead Space 2 does what it does very well indeed. The people who created this game are obviously extremely creative and intelligent, and for me, that's a huge turn on. I just can't understand why so many of the people I know seem to think that 'video games' aren't something that 'normal adults' should be spending time on.

The weird thing is that these same people will boast about their 95 inch plasma televisions, and their blu-ray collections - how is it that watching television, or a movie, is somehow superior to playing through a game like Dead Space 2, which, again, was clearly created by people who are extremely intelligent and creative? Maybe what these people don't understand is that the single most exciting form of storytelling at present, and the one that's moving at a million miles an hour, is the medium of electronic gaming. Look at the games from twenty-five years ago, then look at the games of today. Now do the same with television - television has hardly progressed (Survivor being the one exception). Movies have progressed some, but computer entertainment is just flying forward.

These days, I can hardly even get through a movie - I'll be sitting there, watching the show, but usually I'll be thinking about Dead Space 2 or Total War or something.

Anyhow, yeah, I get what you're saying, OP, sometimes you just want to share these moments with other people. There's a lot of cool stuff in this game, for sure.
 
Is it worth buying this game for the MP? Is it as good as Left 4 Dead 2 (someone said it was similar)... Lately I havent been a huge fan of games that dont have decent MP even though I know this has a killer SP story.
 
Since Dead Space didn't work at all for me on steam and there doesn't appear to be any window for a refund I decided that I'd try the free version of Dead Space 2 as compensation. Hopefully this one will work.
 
Wow this one actually works LOL

Not really that impressed, filled with obvious cliches.

"Hey Isaac I'm here to help"
"Oh hey there mr civilian I hope you don't get mauled in 2 seconds time"
"We've got to get our of here, oh no, bleeaarrgh"

"Hey Isaac go this way"
"Oh looks like a dead end I hope 3 monsters don't spawn behind me"
*Crash* *Crash* *Crash*

eh, I'll play a bit more later :p
 
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