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CRT vs LCD

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2gigs

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What do you like better


I perosonally will never buy a lcd, ever, as the response time is so high, and crts are cheap, and pulls higher resolutions.
 
I preferred CRTs. Then I saw the 17" display on my friend's Inspiron 9300. Now I want a 2407fpw ;)
 
Oh? When did you hear that the moniter market won't change at all and we won't ever see a new product or price changes again?
 
Ill stick with my 19" sony triniton for as long as it lives. Its now over 7 years old, and still going strong. Its also damn heavy weighing 27 kilos, and big. But image quality is still better than the LCDs Ive seen.

Ill switch the day LCDs produce equal or superior image quality. The contrast is awesome, the intensity is top notch and the colour range is very deep. Also dynamic resolution is pretty sweet.
 
im on my 19inch hyundai image quest....an amazing monitor with the best colours ive ever seen produced by a monitor...its pretty big but it does look decent as well....i think ill keep it becuase my x850xt cant push all the games at the same rez so i like playing source at 1600x1200 with 4aa/16af and fear at 1280x1024 4aa/16af....i just like the flexibility,colours and response time :p
 
I've got a 21" Trinitron. My in-laws have a 19" Samsung 930B lcd. The crt just looks better in every way when your looking at the screen. But when you go into my computer room you see the black behemoth that is my Trinitron and when you go into their computer room you see the sleek, cool looking lcd.
I'll still take the crt for now. Hopefully SED or something like it will be the answer.
 
I prefer CRT's but only because I don't like having a "native" rez. It's to constricting with gaming. I'll admit that reading text and overall image quality is better but the flexability isn't there.

I've got an ancient 21' CRT like the poster above that pulls rez up to 1600 by 1200 and allows me to kick down to a lower rez when my machine can't run a particular game at 16 by 12.


Also try the display forum.
 
The new LCD's like the Samsung 214T simply blow away any CRT in looks at 1600x1200 with minimal ghosting. CRT's will look better at non native resolutions, but unless you are playing a 1996 DOS game that isnt an issue. CRT users are hanging onto arguments 4 years old that no longer apply :)
 
CRT is better for anything really. I'm a gamer and use a 19" CRT at home, but for LANs I use a 17" LCD just because it packs in easier. I used to LAN with a 19" CRT for about 5years, but decided to try out a LCD once they hit the 16ms zone.

For my next display I would like to go back to a CRT because the resolution is not fixed, the higher amount of colors, the zero lag and so on. But CRTs are getting harder and harder to find now days :/

The only good IMO about LCDs is the room they require in your vehicle and desk and the very low amount of glare that they have.. If any.

I’m a gamer and graphics guy and I prefer a CRT.
 
killerD said:
The new LCD's like the Samsung 214T simply blow away any CRT in looks at 1600x1200 with minimal ghosting. CRT's will look better at non native resolutions, but unless you are playing a 1996 DOS game that isnt an issue. CRT users are hanging onto arguments 4 years old that no longer apply :)
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Well my 19" never had any ghosting. And its 7 years old. Hows that for an argument. I don't have to settle for minimal anything, I got the full quality picture. Ill make sure to check the Samsung out if I run across one, but I doubt it defeats a proper CRT. I doubt LCDs ever will really, need some different technology to do that.
 
killerD said:
The new LCD's like the Samsung 214T simply blow away any CRT in looks at 1600x1200 with minimal ghosting. CRT's will look better at non native resolutions, but unless you are playing a 1996 DOS game that isnt an issue. CRT users are hanging onto arguments 4 years old that no longer apply :)
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That LCD lacks the color depth field of a CRT. So how will it make up for that shortcoming? I don't necessarily notice the color difference in games, but when working on graphics the color difference (mainly shades) is HIGHLY noticeable.

Also unless you upgrade your video card every 6-12months MAX, living at 1600x1200 is a very hard place to be. I on the other hand believe that spending $2500 on a system every 2-3 years is enough already. No need to the extra $1500-3000 in video cards just to keep up with the high detail/quality of a 1600x1200 resolution.
 
killerD said:
The new LCD's like the Samsung 214T simply blow away any CRT in looks at 1600x1200 with minimal ghosting. CRT's will look better at non native resolutions, but unless you are playing a 1996 DOS game that isnt an issue. CRT users are hanging onto arguments 4 years old that no longer apply :)
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What was the best CRT you've ever owned? Obviously not a good one. And it if was, chances are you didn't adjust it properly.

Those "4 years old arguments that no longer apply" are actually facts and still hold true today. My brother in law and I both have Samsung 930Bs and it is a god awful monitor compared to any Trinitron made in the past 7 years. I've seen a few Dell displays and my opinion has not changed.

Where LCDs have an edge is just text clarity, power consumption, and size. And yes in many cases geometry, but on CRTs that can be easily adjusted to be near perfect. And by near perfect I mean not noticible to the human eye.

That is it, everything else a CRT is factually better in. So unless your Stephen Colbert and you use "Truthiness" when it comes to an argument about monitors, this is not the place. (If you are Stephen Colbert, then that is ok :) )

And all those claims about CRTs being power hogs, oh please... take some time and look at a spec sheet. A NEC 22" CRT has a peak of 120W and a 2405FPW has a peak of 80W. 40W extra is not a "power hog", Pentium 4s draw more wattage over A64s than that during load. After 5 hours of being on my CRTs are only warm to the touch.

The CRT is just a more developed technology, that is to be expected. It doesn't mean LCDs suck, they do have their purpose and are still great displays but when it comes to gaming and photo work there just is no comparison. Some day they may catch up but I doubt it, SEDs will come in full force and guess what? That technology is based off some of the principles of CRTs.

I like CRTs because they are more refined. The picture quality is king and the near instant response time sure is great.

CRTs are the muscle cars of displays, and I'll hold on to mine as long as I can :D

EDIT: I didn't add on the part about native resolutions, definitely a big bonus of CRTs. I run 1280x960, 1600x1200, 1600x1050, and 1900x1200 all @ 85hz depending on the game and the performance I get. I have a 4:3 and a 16:10 CRT so that is why I have WS and 4:3 resolutions.
 
I preferred crt's until I moved a few times in a short period of time...Vastly prefer my 19" lcd even if it doesn't quite have the capability of my 21" crt just because I can move the thing without popping a disc.
 
CRT. Faster refresh rates = more viewable frames per second your monitor can display for gaming. Refresh rates are extremely important to any serious gamer.
 
LCD, because my eyes got tired of blurry text on the multitude of CRT 's i have used including the best that Sony has to offer. The simple reality is that while many of us do alot of gaming, we spend more time with day to day use and the LCD spanks any CRT for text period. I game alot as well and I have absolutely no issues and so for me its hands down......LCD. Once you go LCD you will never go back I can assure you. Oh and refresh rate on an LCD is not the same so you cannont compare
 
jacuzz1 said:
LCD, because my eyes got tired of blurry text on the multitude of CRT 's i have used including the best that Sony has to offer. The simple reality is that while many of us do alot of gaming, we spend more time with day to day use and the LCD spanks any CRT for text period. I game alot as well and I have absolutely no issues and so for me its hands down......LCD. Once you go LCD you will never go back I can assure you. Oh and refresh rate on an LCD is not the same so you cannont compare
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i totally agree once you have used LCD you cant go back CRT hurts my eyes way to much even a really good CRT.

i really dont know what any of you are talking about with teh gameing and LCD but gaming looks just fine on my LCD.
 
i own 2x 21" CRTs , sun GDM 5510(sony trinitron) and viewsonic p225f

both are great ,viewsonic has a lot better colors and contrast

for gaming CRTs all the way but im thinking about getting an LCD because i get a lot of monitor interference in my room and that really sucks on CRTs especially when you read a lot online
 
The power draw and weight on CRT's are a big problem for me. In south america electric gets hella expensive, and I've had to lug 19 inch CRT's up 3-4 flights of stairs to lan it up. Not fun at all.

Not to mention there aren't alot of widescreen CRT's on the market.

That said, I still buy CRT's, mainly because I get more monitor size per dollar. Rather spend 180 bucks on a 19" CRT than the same amount on a 17" LCD.

-wil
 
2gigs said:
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MAN OVERBOARD!!!!!! THE CAPTAIN HAS BAILED ON HIS OWN THREAD!!!! hehe

I've used an LCD for CAD work, and it looked damn good the way the lines stood out compared to a CRT, but for gaming and overall regular PC work I still prefer a CRT - just because I can switch resolutions if I want and not have to worry about any fuzziness.

Sony 21" 520GS here.
 
Immacolata said:
Ill switch the day LCDs produce equal or superior image quality. The contrast is awesome, the intensity is top notch and the colour range is very deep. Also dynamic resolution is pretty sweet.
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I think there are already LCD's that might compete as some people claim (Though i haven't seen one yet in the demo booths i've seen), the question is, how much cash do you have?

BurntToast said:
That LCD lacks the color depth field of a CRT. So how will it make up for that shortcoming? I don't necessarily notice the color difference in games, but when working on graphics the color difference (mainly shades) is HIGHLY noticeable.
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lol... what shades? Total black on an LCD is actually brighter than dark gray. For something that's supposed to be digital, the colors are far from stable.
 
For my money, I plan to stick with quality LCD screens. I came from a pretty nice Viewsonic 19" crt to a 14.1 inch Thinkpad screen and a 17" Samsung display. I can happily say that I don't miss that CRT at all. Sure, I understand that techinally CRTs are still better in a lot of ways (heck, I love my 30" widescreen samsung CRT TV), but for a computer monitor that i'll be spending large amounts of time staring at, LCD all the way.

I'm lucky enough not to notice/be bothered by ghosting, but screen flicker drives me nuts. If I get in front of a friend's comp running at 60hz, I'll get a headache fast, but I stare at my dual LCD's all day at work with no issues. I'm also a big fan of the smaller form factor and lighter weight. The small size is a big bonus in a dorm room. The lower power consumption is a nice bonus, too.

IMHO... LCD FTW! :D
 
LCD's for sure, once you have used an LCD for an extended period of time, you just can't go back to a CRT.
 
I've owned a failry recent trinitron model, not Sony's last but one of thier later offerings. As for the 930b, it is a 6 bit TN panel, a low end gaming monitor and is not representitive of a high quality LCD. I have seen them before, the panel delivers washed out colors and distort harshly when your viewing angle is changed. I hated it too. So if your judging all LCD's by this your missing out. The best LCD panels can stand toe to toe in color accuracy and with a DVI connection their picture can border on flawless.

If I was wrong, there would still be a decent market for CRTs, but just about all major manufacturers have ceased production on them. They would even have unmatched pricing power due to lack of competition, yet they are drying up because LCDs can do just about everything better. There are maybe 6 models on Newegg, all 17" pure budget models. As we know, Newegg is an enthusiast buyer's heaven, yet they dont carry any 21" (even refurbs) trinitrons so what does that say. They either want to miss out on easy money, or you haven't figured out what 99% of us know already (no offense).

Bop said:
What was the best CRT you've ever owned? Obviously not a good one. And it if was, chances are you didn't adjust it properly.

Those "4 years old arguments that no longer apply" are actually facts and still hold true today. My brother in law and I both have Samsung 930Bs and it is a god awful monitor compared to any Trinitron made in the past 7 years. I've seen a few Dell displays and my opinion has not changed.

Where LCDs have an edge is just text clarity, power consumption, and size. And yes in many cases geometry, but on CRTs that can be easily adjusted to be near perfect. And by near perfect I mean not noticible to the human eye.

That is it, everything else a CRT is factually better in. So unless your Stephen Colbert and you use "Truthiness" when it comes to an argument about monitors, this is not the place. (If you are Stephen Colbert, then that is ok :) )

And all those claims about CRTs being power hogs, oh please... take some time and look at a spec sheet. A NEC 22" CRT has a peak of 120W and a 2405FPW has a peak of 80W. 40W extra is not a "power hog", Pentium 4s draw more wattage over A64s than that during load. After 5 hours of being on my CRTs are only warm to the touch.

The CRT is just a more developed technology, that is to be expected. It doesn't mean LCDs suck, they do have their purpose and are still great displays but when it comes to gaming and photo work there just is no comparison. Some day they may catch up but I doubt it, SEDs will come in full force and guess what? That technology is based off some of the principles of CRTs.

I like CRTs because they are more refined. The picture quality is king and the near instant response time sure is great.

CRTs are the muscle cars of displays, and I'll hold on to mine as long as I can :D

EDIT: I didn't add on the part about native resolutions, definitely a big bonus of CRTs. I run 1280x960, 1600x1200, 1600x1050, and 1900x1200 all @ 85hz depending on the game and the performance I get. I have a 4:3 and a 16:10 CRT so that is why I have WS and 4:3 resolutions.
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LCD have Ghosting? That's Unheard of. I swear in the name of Jesus that "I" never saw any LCD that lag. Don't believe me? I have proof. Look below.






































I'm blind.
 
I got to stick with my trusty old CRT. My 19" Viewsonic A90f is still going strong after about 5 years. I too am a gamer and CRTs produce a better image for games. I'll admit the size and weight of my monitor make it hard to lug around but, when it comes to monitors, image quality is my top priority and to me, CRTs beat out LCDs in that aspect.
 
The reduction of glare is what made me switch to LCD's. I could probably overcome this problem somehow, but my GF is a lamp/overhead light freak and I just got tired of seeing reflections of lamps and such right in the middle of a dark movie. Also my 21" NEC CRT was a monster and made me put my keyboard off to the side on the desk. Again, these problems could have been overcome, but I didn't want to get a new desk and rearange my room to get the most outa that CRT.
 
I think I'll stick to my 22" Mitsubishi 2070sb CRT monitor. Nothing beats playing games at 2048x1536 at 85 Hz, especially when you have properly calibrated your monitor. DisplayMate is a great tool for that.
 
CRTs all the way. My 21" CRT gives me excellent picture quality and is superb when gaming. The only problem I had was hauling that 80 pound monster up to the third floor.
 
Is Lcd that much more portable? I mean you some dude have like a westinghouse 37inch and i heard they are comping our with a 42 inch weighing about 55 lb. Is it that practical anymore?

I was or used to be a fan of CRT but when I bought my 2005 fpw I was amazed. The picture seems to be "prettier" and better overall for movie watching. For game (I played only counter strike, I notice that it was bluring quite a bit. This in turn causes my reaction time to go down, causing my skill, not downloadable skill lol, to go down. However, you get use to it after a few day. The blur now is no more, I guess my brain just fill in the missing 1 or 2 frames missing so it is perfectly okay. All in all, I'm happy I made the switch. But now I'm not happy with a regular LCD, it has to be widescreen LCD for it to be pleasing. I'm getting greedy aren't I?
 
CRT here. Longtime loyalist. But I have to admit LCD's are the future and they're much much better today. Make you forget about CRT's almost.
 
I used to have a 5 year old dell 17" CRT which went upto 1600x1200 and now that i've moved to my new samsung 713N LCD i'm never going back. Even though you can see ghosting if you try your hardest and even then it's nothing to worry about, even in BF2 in the middle of Strike at Karkand and lots of stuff on the screen changing there isn't a blur. I now have glasses partly because I looked at a CRT for to long which is now a pan in the ass. Another nice thing about LCD's is that your eyes don't get killed and you can look at one for 10hrs straight and not get eye ache unlike a CRT.

I bet most of the people here who say CRT's are x10 better havn't used a LCD to replace a CRT and not think it's better.
 
LCDs are the future? Well I believe that after two years from now, the same exact date we will be debating over the fact why LCDs suck compared to our new sexy SED displays ;)

SED is the future, LCDs are the current trend, CRTs are the past.

Yes CRTs are not dead, I like good quality CRTs and I own both type of displays.

But today, if I want to buy a new quality TFT display, I have plenty of choices, if I want a good quality CRT, my choices are reduced to none.

The only way to go would be a used and most of the times abused, monitor with questionable life span and no warranty at all! No choice at all..........
 
I cant stand CRT's anymore..

They are of course, honkin huge, annoying itself.

They also seem far less reliable. I had a CRT that broke down after a year or two. I noticed there is two CRT monitors at my parents. Both are fairly new and already look terrible, showing signs of breaking down already. Oh I forgot my brothers CRT, a Sony, also fritzed out and forced him to replace it.

There is little that can go wrong with a LCD. They are just "there" and dont really have any moving parts.

Also, it is really nice not to have to mess with screen geometry. It's just always perfect.

I hated the picture on my LCD at first compared to CRT, but you get used to it. Some even prefer the "softer" look.

CRT's just feel like the stone age now..
 
I use my CRT Sony Trinitron and I havn't seen any LCD that made me think .oO(thats a better picture than mine)

Terra - And untill I do, I stick with CRT...
 
Sharky974 said:
I cant stand CRT's anymore..

They are of course, honkin huge, annoying itself.

They also seem far less reliable. I had a CRT that broke down after a year or two. I noticed there is two CRT monitors at my parents. Both are fairly new and already look terrible, showing signs of breaking down already. Oh I forgot my brothers CRT, a Sony, also fritzed out and forced him to replace it.
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That's odd. My 7 year old sony is almost as good as when I bought it. There's bad quality and good quality as with anything else.

There is little that can go wrong with a LCD.
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O RLY? Dead pixels? PSU fritzing? Yes, LCDs can break too.
They are just "there" and dont really have any moving parts.
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Erm, newsflash, nor do a monitor. The picture "gun" is controlled by magnetic induction, nothing else.

Also, it is really nice not to have to mess with screen geometry. It's just always perfect.
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Now thats true. In my years of CRTness Ive never met a perfectly aligned image. Only LCDs do that.

I hated the picture on my LCD at first compared to CRT, but you get used to it. Some even prefer the "softer" look.

CRT's just feel like the stone age now..
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Well they indeed weigh like somethingfrom the stone age :)
 
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