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cpu + gpu = cgpu?

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ar09

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i dont understand it. why is intel and others trying to integrate graphics into the cpu? will that make the cpu better?
and what will happen to video cards if this happen?
 
Integrating graphics into CPUs will reduce manufacturing costs, since it means that the total number of chips can be reduced. It's only a lower-end option though, since both the CPU and GPU would be less powerful than higher-end discrete models. This kind of integrated graphics will not replace dedicated video cards since it will simply not have the same level of performance.
 
-Cost Reduction
-Power Efficiency (they can share support components)
-Form Factor Reduction
-etc.

Overall it is not meant to make a faster system, discrete will always rule that, but it will help fill other areas in the market. When you combine the two a lot of extra components are not needed and things like the lanes connecting them are much smaller and thus it really simplifies things.
 
Integrated graphics is actually pretty good and cost effective if you don't play any games.
 
A major advantage of having a GPU integrated into the CPU is that the GPU can be used for many calculations which run faster on a GPU. There may not be much software which takes advantage of GPU computing at the moment, but with a GPU integrated into CPUs, that would change. The GPU will work as a specialized processor alongside of the CPU.

Of course, this is besides being used as integrated graphics.

 
doing this for cost only, seems to me silly.

it's kind of when we had the math-co-processor? the 387's... 487's... when we had the 386's and so on...

reducing the phisical space is good. we could make a chip the size of a penny that could do everything. it's interesting!
 
SmokeRngs said:
A major advantage of having a GPU integrated into the CPU is that the GPU can be used for many calculations which run faster on a GPU. There may not be much software which takes advantage of GPU computing at the moment, but with a GPU integrated into CPUs, that would change. The GPU will work as a specialized processor alongside of the CPU.
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Well, that would have a limited impact since the kind of GPU that can be integrated into the same package as a CPU wouldn't have a tremendous amount of computational power available.
 
Zero82z said:
Well, that would have a limited impact since the kind of GPU that can be integrated into the same package as a CPU wouldn't have a tremendous amount of computational power available.
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The instructions the GPU would be processing would be many times faster on the GPU than a general processor. As someone else said, it's similar to the math coprocessor days. The general processor could do all the same instructions but much slower. Eventually, the math coprocessor was integrated into the CPU. We're basically seeing the exact same thing happen here.
 
SmokeRngs said:
The instructions the GPU would be processing would be many times faster on the GPU than a general processor. As someone else said, it's similar to the math coprocessor days. The general processor could do all the same instructions but much slower. Eventually, the math coprocessor was integrated into the CPU. We're basically seeing the exact same thing happen here.
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Yep, they'll move the GPU onto the chip with the CPU so that any system that doesn't need a discrete gpu solution will be good to go. The costs then go down for the builders like Dell since it will cost less to have the gpu on chip instead of on the mobo.

What i think is cool will be for all the rest of us who will still use dedicated graphics cards because the game makers get a free chip to code for. All of a sudden you get something like physx for free because the game makers will be smart enough to run that extra physics code on the "unused" gpu chip. Nice :D
 
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