Core i9-10990XE 22-core Processor

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  1. erek

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    Wonder if it's 5.0 GHz all-core? 380W seems excessive!

    "Referenced as Core i9-10990XE in straight-up CPU-Z screenshots, the processor is based on the "Cascade Lake-X" microarchitecture, and has the same I/O as the i9-10980XE, looking at the instruction sets featured. It has 22 cores and HyperThreading enables 44 threads. Cache hierarchy and balance are characteristic of "Cascade Lake," with 1 MB of dedicated L2 cache per core, and 30.25 MB of shared L3 cache. The I/O is likely identical to the i9-10980XE as that's a function of the platform and the socket. What's more interesting are the clock-speeds. The name-string of the engineering sample references a nominal clock-speed of 4.00 GHz, and in the screenshot, the chip is shown running at 5.00 GHz (at least on one core). There's also a performance benchmark to go with the leak, possibly CineBench R20 nT. Here, the i9-10990XE is shown scoring 14,005 points, which is in the same ballpark as the 24-core Ryzen Threadripper 3960X."

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    https://www.techpowerup.com/262915/core-i9-10990xe-22-core-processor-last-gasp-of-the-x299-platform
     
  2. DF-1

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    just remember: thats 380 watts at 4ghz base.
     
  3. Zarathustra[H]

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    Jesus. They are going to have to break out the refrigerator again...
     
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    Ok, so gonna need 3x 360 (fat) rads, 12mm tubing and fittings, dual-pump (running at 80% speed), and at least 9x high-static pressure fans to get the most out of this sucker for standard intended use, huh? Hahaha

    I understand companies sticking to Intel because name recognition, but with IPC being equal at workloads that these high-core count CPUs will actually see, wouldn't AMD's thermals (being 7nm) be a big advantage?

    Sorry, just having too much fun poking at Intel for scrambling to play catch up.
     
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    Nice! If only I had a use for it...
     
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    Anyone else thinks they needed a refreshed brand name?

    Core i9-10990XE doesn't exactly roll off the tongue. I mean how exactly is that pronounced?
     
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    I say ten nine ninety
     
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    This must be based on their new platform, "Too Little Too Lake."
     
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    Space heater?
     
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    Are the lights flickering at your house or has the electric bill done the bank account in. Can it cook a steak faster than a 8370?
     
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  14. sfsuphysics

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    Well it's not like they don't have the i9-10980XE...

    But yeah that one is "only" 165W TDP, granted 18 cores not 22 but still.
     
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    I count nine syllables.


    Let's just call it "The Firestarter" :p
     
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    I thought cooling a 3960x was bad couldn't imagine trying to cool a colse to 400w CPU with water. You just don't have enough surface area to disperse off the CPU fast enough.
     
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    My TR 3960x runs 20C cooler during load than my old x79 3930k did using the same loop, so I don't think they are too difficult to cool.

    This thing on the other hand...
     
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    If the price is right, near threadripper performance for half the price? I'd bite. But Intel would be mad to price it anywhere near the real-deal threadripper CPUs.
     
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    Near? At 5ghz pushing north of 700w, it does what a similar score to a 3960x in R20. That's not anywhere near... in a real world setting right?
     
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    ai nine ten nine ninety ecks iee
     
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    With water it’s not that hard. I’ve had multiple chips pull 400W OC’d.

    This thing could pull way more than 400W OC’d though...
     
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    Sooooo... Was that like for my way of saying it or for our nickname's similarity? :D
     
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    And this is to compete with AMDs current lowest end Threadripper 3960x. Just think about that..............
     
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    How big were those chips in mm2
     
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    355mm^2, 471mm^2; this has to be bigger than the 355mm^2 at least.
     
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    Crater Lake seems more appropriate.
     
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    The 18-core 9980XE was 484 mm². If the die layout is the same as Skylake-X Refresh then the 10990XE would be around 600 mm².
     
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    Hope this comes with a lake I can. Toss it in when it catches fire. Then again, it might just boil it all off.
     
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    Ok so the 3990x has a total die area of 1008mm2, buuuut the IO die is 416m2 itself and isn't that hard to cool because it doesn't use that much wattage compared to the Zen 2 chiplets and has a large area, so that brings it down to 592mm2 of pure CPU cores.
    If the 10990XE is indeed around 600mm2 then I can see it not being that much harder to cool than a 3990x at stock. Unless they don't solder the IHS.

    The 3950x has a die area of only 273mm2 by comparison and is extremely hard to cool to get max possible clocks @ stock and uses waaaaay less power. Probably not as hard to cool as a 3990x but close.

    What we really need is a way to get the heat away from the CPU dies faster and more efficiently, as when my OC'd 1700 reaches 85C, I can comfortably keep my hand on the heatsink for a while as it only gets slightly warm. The hotter your heatsink is, the more efficiently its working and right now, having more die area for a given wattage is the only way to have more efficient heat transfer.
     
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    Why not both
     
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    It's so irrelevant that I never even needed to say it yet. That goes for the entire 10xxx series.
     
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    Rough.


    But true.
     
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    Threadripper vs. Firestarter sounds like an epic battle. XD
     
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