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foxlighter

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:rolleyes: im thinking of building my own computer,but the thing which turns me of building my own system is
putting the cpu fan+processor onto the motherboard, now in my philips computer there is this fan and
under that is the processor and there is two bits of thin tin which you have to connect to the motherboard
to hold the thing to the board,how divicult is it to do this, with out causing damage to the board, i can do all the rest but not this,and another thing is has anybody els got a AMD motherboard and could thay tell me some good things about this kind of board
 
Need some more information. Are you talking about a socket A board? If so, new computers don't really have those types of clips anymore. What board specifically are you talking about?
 
well i dont have one yet,but im thinking of getting a AMD motherboard, but which one, i dont realy know, but i want one with nvidia on board, do you know of a good amd motherboard, :confused:
 
when you go into tools > system its suppose to show all what you have on your computer, but it does not its shows these
blue things, but what i want is to see what i have on my computer, like memory motherboard type and lots more, can
anybody help :D
 
Try CPU-Z, Everest, Sisoft Sandra. They have a bunch of reporting tools in them.
 
If you can assemble prefabricated furniture, you know the thy with all the screws and included alen wrench, you can put together a PC no sweat.

The clamp for the heatsink on the CPU can be a little tricky, but these days with Socket 939, that's a piece of cake too. All you have to do is hook on end of the clamp to the retaining bracket on the motherboard and then push it down on the other side till is snaps in place. Its not too bad at all.

Wiring everything is probably the most time consuming task, espcecially if you want everything nice a neat, that will take most of the construction time.

I would recomend getting you list of parts, reseasrching them well, and make sure that they should work together. More than likely, if you go with good components, you'll find plenty of people with experience with the hardware, unless your getting something that brand new.

In the end, a DIY PC will built with good components will more than likely be more trouble free than a retail box. No preloaded crap and goofy disk images, and if you build high end, you'll save at leat $200 bucks if not more.

Good Luck!
 
thanks for the thread heatlesssun, and thank you very much for the good thread it makes a lot of sence,
and thanks to firebat i did what you said and now know what i have now,
i have been down to the local computer shop and took a look at what thay had to offer me but i just thought what rubbish, what im looking for is somthing like AMD 939 and i live in england you know that place where it rains for 6 months of the year, me my self are still wareing my rainmack, hope your in better place in the
world,
:D
 
Foxlighter-
The hardest thing about building a PC is the research. You have to do it! Learn the terminology and the intricacies of the hardware because if you don't understand what is going on then your project will be an absolute nightmare or worse. No one knows it all (certainly not me) but you need to understand the basics and be aware of where the industry is going before you plunk down your hard earned cash. Screwing the thing together is relatively easy but picking the right parts and knowing what they do and how they work together is the difficult side of PC building and as usual the hardest thing to do is the most important.

If you can answer these questions then you're ready to start picking parts: Do you know what DDR means and how many sticks of what it takes to make it work? What is the difference between a 754 socket and a 939 socket? Do you know what thermal paste is and how much to use on an Athlon 64? What goes in an AGP socket and should your new rig use one or a PCIe? What is a standoff and how many should you use when building your rig? How many watts and amps do you need from your PSU? SATA or IDE hard drive?

If you can't answer the above or at least have some idea of what I'm talking about then you need to do your homework. Not being an ass here, I just want you to spend your money wisely and be able to build a decent rig with decent parts that work together. This is a good place to start.
 
Merc said:
Foxlighter-
The hardest thing about building a PC is the research. You have to do it! Learn the terminology and the intricacies of the hardware because if you don't understand what is going on then your project will be an absolute nightmare or worse. No one knows it all (certainly not me) but you need to understand the basics and be aware of where the industry is going before you plunk down your hard earned cash. Screwing the thing together is relatively easy but picking the right parts and knowing what they do and how they work together is the difficult side of PC building and as usual the hardest thing to do is the most important.

If you can answer these questions then you're ready to start picking parts: Do you know what DDR means and how many sticks of what it takes to make it work? What is the difference between a 754 socket and a 939 socket? Do you know what thermal paste is and how much to use on an Athlon 64? What goes in an AGP socket and should your new rig use one or a PCIe? What is a standoff and how many should you use when building your rig? How many watts and amps do you need from your PSU? SATA or IDE hard drive?

If you can't answer the above or at least have some idea of what I'm talking about then you need to do your homework. Not being an ass here, I just want you to spend your money wisely and be able to build a decent rig with decent parts that work together. This is a good place to start.
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Great Post
 
:D ok merc, lets talk about computers,

DDR > double>data>rate/ supports/DDR333/DDR266/DDR200/ i use DDR333
what is the difference between a 754 socket and a 939 socket,well i could be rong on this one but i think its got somthing to do with, cpu>processor, the 754 is total diverent to the 939 socket, tell you the truth i dont know sorry, next question
thermal paste is what you use to go under the cpu and it stopes the heat doing any damage to the motherboard,or somthing like that how much to use on athlon not too much just enough to do the job,
next question
what goes in a agp, well it would be my new radeon 9600xt graphices card >dvi>tv out
supports 128mb/256mb/ of DDR memory,
next question
how many watts and amps do you need psu/sata/ide hard drive,i would guess its 350 watts, and just by looking at what you have got its bloody brilliant, i did help out on this computer a few years ago and the
hardest thing to do was the cpu fan on the motherboard, this fan had this thin piecs of tin which you had to fix
at one end to make it solid, and i did take a look at the processor with all its little pins, and since then i have had loads of computers from the tip, yes i know the tip but people chuck away some very good stuff, but i have not had anything good for a while and i have alwats wanted to build my own,
 
post around on the board and most of us will be glad to help you out, you do need to do some more reasearch before you build, thats wha we're here for.

Thermal Paste doesn't have anything to do with protecting the motherboard. That new processor (or any for that matter) gets REALLY hot, so you put the metal or copper heatsink on it to absorb some of that heat, and a fan on that to move fresh air in on it. All thermal paste does is help heat move from the CPU to that metal heatsink. So it goes on top the cpu in between the heatsink. The motherboard is fine, it built to handle a hot processor in the socket. this is done to keep the cpu from cooking itself in that socket.

Start posting in some forums and ask lots of questions, before you buy post in gen hardware with a rundown of the system and people can spot potential problems for ya.

its not that hard to do, hardest part is shopping and getting the right parts, from there its a breeze.
 
eport: 1/15/2006, 13:53:21
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the motherboard i have seen is,asrock 938a8x-m-sl m-atx 1000fsb skt 939{amd}motherboard,
and it looks very good and its got what i need, but the thing which stops me daed is this cpu fan connector
which locks everything down, you have the motherboard then processor then cpu fan the its got this thin piece of tin which you have to clip onto the other side of the motherboard and this is quite hard to do,
but some one on this forum said that thay dont use this kind of thing anymore, can sombody please
tell me if this is right, and this is what my motherboard is,

motherboard is p4 titan series GA-8SIMLH=P(-C) sis 651 chipset
80gb hhd
512mb ram
lg multidvd rom
make of computer is iqon philips
socket 478 intel
radeon xt 9600 graphices card
:D
 
thanks mrmitch for good thread it helps a lot and made things clear, i think im going to get new amd motherboard, but which processor will go with new mother board, will it tell you in the book which comes with the new motherboard or can you just put any amd
processors into the board :D
 
:D could i get a amd motherboard with nvidia graphices built in, or would i have to make do with my radeon graphices card
 
Hey fox, how much are you looking to spend? The hardest part about building a computer is slapping down the cash, the rest is a cake walk.
 
well i was thinking of buying a bit at a time, but the first thing i want is motherboard, lets say £ 120 but in total about about £600 :D
 
sorry but i had to look at what motherboard you have got and boy its bloody awsome and i think this is the one for me and its going to cost me £150+post+package, the motherboard i have been looking at is the
asus a8n32-sli deluxe motherboard,and its got nvedia built into but with this nvedia, will it do just the same as my radeon 9600xt graphices card, if so that means that i can do away with my radeon,
:D
 
9600XT is AGP graphics while the A8N32 is PCIe graphics. You'd have to get a new video card.
 
A good mobo, but I am not sure how much you will get with your currency and pricing over there. The a8n32 is a bit pricy, and made for SLI. In America, such a configuration could easily cost $1500, maybe you can translate that into your currency better?
 
is my radeon 9600xt graphices card any good, and can i use this card for new computer, and will
it work with my new asus a8n 32-sli deluxe motherboard, :D
 
foxlighter said:
is my radeon 9600xt graphices card any good, and can i use this card for new computer, and will
it work with my new asus a8n 32-sli deluxe motherboard, :D
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You CAN use ATI Radeon cards in that board, but you CAN'T use AGP cards ;). Getting that board and trying to use anything less than a 6800GS is near useless IMHO. You can get a lot cheaper board if you're not pushing your graphics to the max.
 
:D well would luck have it, this morning my brother gave me a call to say that he had found this motherboard
box and he does not know if it contains a motherboard because hes still at work, so anyway he got home to find that the motherboard was not there, but the services book was there plus the user guide and some
other cds, the motherboard name is,

msi >via kt4av > AMD athlon xp processors
msi 333 edition
DDR 3gb memory bandwith > agp 8x
400 > 5.1 channel audio
dual DDR
10/100 erthnet lan
via > kt400A chipset based

now what i want to know is, is this motherboard a few years old or is this new, and is there a new vertion
of this motherboard, the booklet also shows you how to put it all together which is a bonus for me
 
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