computer build help

[skuzzzzy]

1) What will you be doing with this PC? Gaming? Photoshop? Web browsing? etc
Gaming and possibly movie encoding. (left for dead 2, team fortress 2, counter-strike source, fallout 3, fallout new vegas, crysis 1 and 2.)
2) What's your budget? Are tax and shipping included?
$1,200-1,300, tax and shipping included.
3) Where do you live?
Wake Forest, Nc
4) What exact parts do you need for that budget? CPU, RAM, Case, etc.
Cpu, SSD, Mb, Heatsink, Ram, Gpu, Bluray burner
5) If reusing any parts, what parts will you be reusing?
Cooler Master Sniper case, Corsair 850hx psu, Mouse, Keyboard, Monitor, Speakers
6) Will you be overclocking?
Plan on overclocking cpu to 4ghz, and oc'n gpu.
7) What size monitor do you have and/or plan to have?
Asus 25.5", 1920x1200 res
8) When do you plan on building/buying the PC?
November during black friday sales.
9) What features do you need in a motherboard? RAID? Firewire? Crossfire or SLI support? etc.
Sata 3, Usb 3.0, 7+ sata ports, Crossfire or sli.
10) Do you already have a legit and reusable/transferable OS key/license?
Yes, Windows 7 64bit



So my whole plan was to build a 890fx/1055t or 1090t computer then drop in a bulldozer next year, now it looks like BD will be am3+ only. Im not building my computer untill november black friday sales, is the 1055t/1090t still more future proof over a i5/i7 even though looks like the board is going to be dead?

I know the 1055t can easily overclock to the same stats as a 1090t, only reason i bring it up as a possibly cpu im looking at is because wouldnt all that over voltage of a 1055t damge a MB, Ram, CPU over time in overclocking the 1055t, plus ive never overclocked before so im sue the 1090t is easier to overclock.

As far as heatsinks, I currently have two gentle typoon 15's and was thinking about getting a corsair h70 and putting them on the radiator, also looking at the d14 and silverarrow as possible heatsinks.

Motherboard, if its confirmed the BD isnt coming with AM3 support is it pointless to choose a fx over a gx board?

Ssd i only plan on keeping os on the ssd, i think i read W7 64 uses 20gb but wouldnt a 120gb sandforce be more comfortable then a 80gb? i dont plan on installing games on the SSD, just music, programs, os, pictures etc. Cant decide between the corsair, gskill sandforces or the new sata 3 crucials with 350mb read speeds.


Looking for my build to last a good 3 years, if longer even better.

 

[lt_shiro]

I know the 1055t can easily overclock to the same stats as a 1090t, only reason i bring it up as a possibly cpu im looking at is because wouldnt all that over voltage of a 1055t damge a MB, Ram, CPU over time in overclocking the 1055t, plus ive never overclocked before so im sue the 1090t is easier to overclock.

that is not very true... problem was mainly seen in boards which are rate for 125w. 1090t is waste of money, if you are willing to spend that much get an i7 930.

 

[fishrule]

Without the price of an SSD drive or Blu Ray burner I would automatically go for an Intel machine because the i7 is generally so far superior to the Phenoms. Also for a multi GPU setup I would definitely go Nvidia over ATI. However, this is the compromise I could think of with what you wanted, and even then it goes a little over budget. All of this is from Newegg.

MSI NF980-G65 AM3 NVIDIA nForce 980a SLI HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard

GIGABYTE GV-N460OC-1GI GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card (two of them)

Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model KVR1333D3N9K2/8G

AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT55TFBGRBOX

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 compatible RR-B10-212P-G1 120mm "heatpipe direct contact"

LG Black 10X Blu-ray Burner - Bulk SATA WH10LS30 LightScribe Support - OEM

Intel X25-V SSDSA2MP040G2R5 2.5" 40GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

Total cost: $1,318.92

I know the SSD is smaller than what you wanted, but this is just my opinion on a compromise build for what you wanted.

 

[skuzzzzy]

im looking into a 80gb or 120gb sandforce. looking at the corsair h70, d14 or silver arrow heatsinks. i dont need 8gb of ram thats a waste. and with my budget i could get a much better gpu.


edit: didnt see you put 2 460s, sorry.
but im not interested in running two cards, rather have one card. and im looking at 5870, 470 and possibly by the time i order the new 6 series will be out and the 480 will be cheaper.

 

[fishrule]

You want the build to last 3 years but don't want to up your RAM? I consider the 4gb I had a good starting point 3 years ago, not something I would start out with now. I will leave the GPU up to you, I thought you wanted an SLI system because its what you mentioned in what you wanted.

Can you just wait till next year? So many things are end of life now you might as well just wait for AM3+/Sandy Bridge.

 

[skuzzzzy]

You want the build to last 3 years but don't want to up your RAM? I consider the 4gb I had a good starting point 3 years ago, not something I would start out with now. I will leave the GPU up to you, I thought you wanted an SLI system because its what you mentioned in what you wanted.

Can you just wait till next year? So many things are end of life now you might as well just wait for AM3+/Sandy Bridge.

sorry about the sli confusion. i dont plan on going sli or crossfire however i still want a board capable of it. dont want anything stopping me incase i change my mind ever.

i dont currently need 8gb for gaming however i can easily upgrade that later, mainly refering to the cpu/motherboard lifespan.

and as far as gpu im really basing that on if you guys can help me pick out between 1055t or i5/i7 cpus. if 1055t i plan on going msi lighting II/or sapphire vapor x 5870 or a 6 series if its out in time. if i5/i7 i plan on going evga 470 or evga 480 if its around 400 come november.

i guess you could say im mainly here to try to decide between processors and heatsinks.

the heatsinks im trying to decide about are the corsair h70, d14 and silver arrow. only reason h70 is in my mind is since i already bought two fans for it at 18 a pop and they would look out of place on the other two heatsinks.

i originally had 1055t in my mind since i could upgrade to BD, however seeing as i cant now im trying to figure out if a 1055t or i5/i7 will be more future proof in say 2-3 years, do you guys think in 2-3 years 6 cores will be utilized better making them take a lead in gaming over the i5/i7?

as for can i wait untill next year, i just recently sold my computer to go towards this new computer, currently borrowing a p3 or p4 with 256mb ram running ubuntu using a 25.5" monitor, after about 5 web pages open and only running pidgin the computer starts to lock up. not to mention i dont have sound. so 3-4 months is going to kill me as it is

 

[Dangman]

Judging from the Black Friday sales of the past three years, you might not see that many actual good hardware deals.

sorry about the sli confusion. i dont plan on going sli or crossfire however i still want a board capable of it. dont want anything stopping me incase i change my mind ever.

Well that makes things simple: You're going the Intel Core i5/i7 route if you want SLI capability, USB 3.0, and SATA 6Gb/s capability as there is no AMD motherboard that has those features right out of the box.

i originally had 1055t in my mind since i could upgrade to BD, however seeing as i cant now im trying to figure out if a 1055t or i5/i7 will be more future proof in say 2-3 years, do you guys think in 2-3 years 6 cores will be utilized better making them take a lead in gaming over the i5/i7?

Well drop-in BD support with current AM3 motherboard is still up in the air actually. Kyle Bennet himself has reported that AMD told him that there would be drop-in upgrades. But to err on the safe side, just assume that you can't.

The Q6600 was released in January 2007 and it's only now in 2010 that a decent amount of new games have taken full advantage of quad-core CPUs. Considering that quad-core CPUs only make up roughly 27% of gaming PCs out there according to the latest Steam Hardware Survey, I think it's fair to say that it's gonna take roughly 3+ years before we see an actual scaling with 6 cores.

 

[skuzzzzy]

Judging from the Black Friday sales of the past three years, you might not see that many actual good hardware deals.


Well that makes things simple: You're going the Intel Core i5/i7 route if you want SLI capability, USB 3.0, and SATA 6Gb/s capability as there is no AMD motherboard that has those features right out of the box.


Well drop-in BD support with current AM3 motherboard is still up in the air actually. Kyle Bennet himself has reported that AMD told him that there would be drop-in upgrades. But to err on the safe side, just assume that you can't.

The Q6600 was released in January 2007 and it's only now in 2010 that a decent amount of new games have taken full advantage of quad-core CPUs. Considering that quad-core CPUs only make up roughly 27% of gaming PCs out there according to the latest Steam Hardware Survey, I think it's fair to say that it's gonna take roughly 3+ years before we see an actual scaling with 6 cores.

pretty sure someone who works for amd has already posted in that thread saying it would for sure not work on am3.

and i wasnt meaning sli + cf just one or the other. if amd then cf, if intel sli. which i think all the high end amd/ibtel motherboards have that anyways.



as far as black friday, i could buy a cpu, mb, ram, 1tb black cav in one week, then just grab gpu, ssd, bluray burner and heatsink in november if you dont think i would really save much but holding off on those parts.