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Computer Aquarium - Must See

Completely real. Mineral oil does not conduct electricity so you can submerge parts in it.
 
I've seen someone on here do it a while back. Its pretty cool. I have some old hardware laying around, so maybe I'll try it sometime. Cool video though. :cool:
 
It's a horrible idea! What happens when the oil gets hot? The system gets hot, then what?? It overheats. Then you are fuc*** because you wasted money on the oil, and now you have to clean everything.
 
it would burn the fans out pretty quick though, not that it really matters.

also I think fish would die in oil!

tylerdustin2008 said:
It's a horrible idea! What happens when the oil gets hot? The system gets hot, then what?? It overheats. Then you are fuc*** because you wasted money on the oil, and now you have to clean everything.
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it would take quite a bit of heat to make that system hot.
 
Ive seen them cooled using a rad and pump to cool the oil. I would imagine fans would wear out quickly, and the mineral oil might permeate into the hard drive - could also possibly eat at plastics.
 
You'd need a radiator and high-flow pump to make it worthwhile -- pulling the oil out at the top, returning the cooler stuff at the bottom.

I read the original article by Puget Systems and they said that it worked fine for a while, temps started low, but eventually they got higher that just running on air because the ambient temp of the oil went up and the heat was trapped in it. They added the bubbler trying to add more turbulence, hoping it would get the heat out of the oil, but it wasn't much help.
 
silent-circuit said:
You'd need a radiator and high-flow pump to make it worthwhile -- pulling the oil out at the top, returning the cooler stuff at the bottom.

I read the original article by Puget Systems and they said that it worked fine for a while, temps started low, but eventually they got higher that just running on air because the ambient temp of the oil went up and the heat was trapped in it. They added the bubbler trying to add more turbulence, hoping it would get the heat out of the oil, but it wasn't much help.
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Thank you.

And to Jay_oasis. Its going to get hot, I would give it an hour. And no OC'ing with this type of cooling.
 
Take the fans out, they would burn up and possible cause problems with increased Amp draw, leave the heatsinks however.
Did Puget do anything to try and help keep the oil cool like adding radiators, I think if you wanted somethng like this to run for very long you would need some sort of active cooling of the oil. Does mineral oil thicken when cooled, maybe you could use a minifridge and cooling loop to cool the oil to like 40degF then it might be worth the effort, otherwise just stick with air cooling or standard water cooling.
How much does mineral oil cost anyway?
 
7 gallons at $60.00 a gallon = $420.00 just for the oil. Seems you could buy a very nice watercooling setup for that price. :D
 
Coder said:
7 gallons at $60.00 a gallon = $420.00 just for the oil. Seems you could buy a very nice watercooling setup for that price. :D
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$60 was the total cost. It is under $10/gal at your local store such as Meijer.
 
Also, another problem is trapped bubbles of air.

If you get bubbles of air collecting on the hardware (especially if you are using an air stone like in the video) the air pockets will become super heated because the air cannot dissipate the heat. The most likely spot for air to get trapped is in the fins of your heatsinks.
 
Read above! Its going to overheat, your going to burn something up. If nothing burns up well.... The computer will be restarting allot. Nice thing to try if you are bored oen weekend and have money to waste on pointless oil.
 
tylerdustin2008 said:
Read above! Its going to overheat, your going to burn something up. If nothing burns up well.... The computer will be restarting allot. Nice thing to try if you are bored oen weekend and have money to waste on pointless oil.
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READ ABOVE!


it'll take more time to for the mineral oil to overheat. yes, it will overheat. it'll take alot more time than you think. do you really, truly, absolutely believe he will be running the pc like that 24/7?


it's a weekend project, one hell of a project too.


you're wouldnt happen to be mikeblas in disguise, are you?



edit:

http://www.pugetsystems.com/submerged.php

^^^READ ABOVE! Take your own advice :rollseyes: it basically goes against everything you are asserting - but not backing up.
 
"
It is 7.30 lb/gal so your 6 gallons would be 43.8 lbs...converting to metric that comes out to be 19.9 kg of mineral oil.

Specific heat is 2023 J/(kg-°K) at 80C...now 1 watt-hour = 3600 J

So you need 2023 J/(kg-°K) x 19.9 kg = 40,258 Joules to raise the mineral oil one degree Celsius.

At 275W heat input, you are pumping out 275*3600 = 990,000 Joules per hour. So in one hour, assuming the mineral oil tank is vacuum insulated from the environment and is losing zero heat to its surroundings, the mineral oil heats up approximately 990000/40258 = 24.6°C

Your budget is 90°C - 21.1°C = 68.9°C...

68.9/24.6 = 2.8 hours.

In 2.8 hours the 6 gallons of mineral oil will have absorbed enough heat to rise from 21.1C to 90C. Whether it gets there or not depends on how much heat is lost thru the surface area of the tank's sidewalls and the environment."

There you go.
 
tylerdustin2008 said:
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It is 7.30 lb/gal so your 6 gallons would be 43.8 lbs...converting to metric that comes out to be 19.9 kg of mineral oil.

Specific heat is 2023 J/(kg-°K) at 80C...now 1 watt-hour = 3600 J

So you need 2023 J/(kg-°K) x 19.9 kg = 40,258 Joules to raise the mineral oil one degree Celsius.

At 275W heat input, you are pumping out 275*3600 = 990,000 Joules per hour. So in one hour, assuming the mineral oil tank is vacuum insulated from the environment and is losing zero heat to its surroundings, the mineral oil heats up approximately 990000/40258 = 24.6°C

Your budget is 90°C - 21.1°C = 68.9°C...

68.9/24.6 = 2.8 hours.

In 2.8 hours the 6 gallons of mineral oil will have absorbed enough heat to rise from 21.1C to 90C. Whether it gets there or not depends on how much heat is lost thru the surface area of the tank's sidewalls and the environment."

There you go.
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Ah, specific heat...
 
Yes, I am being serious. This cooling is horrible. And that link whats his face linked to pugent systems. Well the guy says that the load is 80c something, Now C2D's overheat and restart at about 85c. So horrible cooling idea! Maybe fun on an old HP computer, a skt370, 462? Maybe even an old 486.
 
True but constant heat....The computer being on. No it will not cool down, only way it will cool down is if the temperature in the room were to drop. And the constant I have is 70f(21.1c) Its not going to get much cooler than that in your house/work, wherever you are.
 
Duro said:
You dump some french fries in.
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LOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!

I read the original article a while back ago. They were asking people for the Zalman Radiator (the first one) so that they could cool it.
 
this isn't really all that new.

A guy on this very board too did something even [h]ardercore. throw a meager rig in a pan, fill it with oil, threw it on a burner, and cooked some fries while running some quake.
 
Haha cool. Needs some more crap suspended like plastic fish and plants though.
 
JinxyBoi said:
this isn't really all that new.

A guy on this very board too did something even [h]ardercore. throw a meager rig in a pan, fill it with oil, threw it on a burner, and cooked some fries while running some quake.
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Oooo - can you give me a linky please, if there are pics that is.
 
Koko56 said:
Oooo - can you give me a linky please, if there are pics that is.
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i dunno what the topic was called, but he posted it in general hardware though. there are pics (and even a video i think). tried to dig up the thread but my searches haven't been turning up anything.
 
tylerdustin2008 said:
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It is 7.30 lb/gal so your 6 gallons would be 43.8 lbs...converting to metric that comes out to be 19.9 kg of mineral oil.

Specific heat is 2023 J/(kg-°K) at 80C...now 1 watt-hour = 3600 J

So you need 2023 J/(kg-°K) x 19.9 kg = 40,258 Joules to raise the mineral oil one degree Celsius.

At 275W heat input, you are pumping out 275*3600 = 990,000 Joules per hour. So in one hour, assuming the mineral oil tank is vacuum insulated from the environment and is losing zero heat to its surroundings, the mineral oil heats up approximately 990000/40258 = 24.6°C

Your budget is 90°C - 21.1°C = 68.9°C...

68.9/24.6 = 2.8 hours.

In 2.8 hours the 6 gallons of mineral oil will have absorbed enough heat to rise from 21.1C to 90C. Whether it gets there or not depends on how much heat is lost thru the surface area of the tank's sidewalls and the environment."

There you go.
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Anyone reading the whole thread?
 
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