Cliff Bleszinski Swears Off Making Videogames Forever

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  1. Megalith

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    Following the failure of 2014’s LawBreakers and the closing of his studio, Boss Key Productions, Cliff Bleszinski claims he will “never” make another game again. The announcement was made on Twitter after a gamer advised that all LawBreakers players should have been given refunds, as the title barely lasted a year.

    "I paid my employees, their 401ks, and their health care - even months after the studio folded. So they could care for their families. I didn't take a salary myself for two years. I get you're sad, but god, this kinda sh*t is another reason I am NEVER making another game."
     
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    People like to whine.
     
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    Cliff Bleszinski......John Romero......Derek Smart......can you imagine how badly the game these three could create would fail......
     
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    Sad part was that this game wasn't that bad. He is one of those dudes that I don't like, but he has made some good games, and from all accounts has treated his employees right, so I hope ends up making more games.
     
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    He's not wrong. Little shits are too entitled nowadays.
     
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    I would add Chris Roberts with SC/sq42 as well.
     
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    Could maybe add George Broussard in there, since DNF was the last game he (almost) made.
     
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    I don't know man. As much flak as Star Citizen gets...literally Chris Roberts made my favorite space games ever. I still have fond memories of Freelancer.
     
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    And don’t forget Dennis Dyack.
     
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    Should have stuck with Jazz Jackrabbit. I'm into my 30s now and would happily waste my money on jazz microtransactions and irl underpants merch. But instead he went solo mission and epic has that measely little flop battle royale game that noone plays.

    Teehee.
     
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    That and he doesn't make good games. Lawbreakers was so broken.
     
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    He's probably stressed gaming consumers only see what is in front of them and not the development.
     
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    Well Cliff has said enough stupid shit over the years to make me think he's a fucking failure in the gaming industry because he doesn't understand the market.
     
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    He must have a new game in the works and forgot to "not tweet" while freebasing Ambien.
     
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    "I paid my employees, their 401ks, and their health care - even months after the studio folded. So they could care for their families. I didn't take a salary myself for two years. I get you're sad, but god, this kinda sh*t is another reason I am NEVER making another game."[/QUOTE]

    As a business owner, the sheer amount of money you spend from the 'company accounts' on all your personal needs is typically astronomical. I'd reservedly claim that he spent over 50k/year of the company money on himself 'in the name of the company'. To claim he didn't get paid a salary may be technically accurate, it still had no impact on his lifestyle or comfort level.
     
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    Dude made a cookie cutter game........not sure why he expected to have Gears-like success with a game that was lumping itself into an already-saturated pool. Meanwhile, single player based western game sells a billion copies in 2 weeks.
    Hey that could be the most epic game ever....but yeah he's absolutely ready to take his seat with the Quorum :D
     
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    I swore off Cliffy B's games at least a decade ago. It sucks the studio closed and people lost their jobs, but there are really good games that don't do well commercially. A substandard game without a major franchise title on it will not keep a business running.
     
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    Software development is a tough business. I've been in the software industry for the last 20 years. I've worked at a large company that made enterprise software (that everyone hated), startup companies making mobile apps (only one out of about 30 apps did anything, and it was for a non-profit and didn't even make money but did get a lot of publicity), and now I'm working on internal software at a company. I've not been in the design role often - just the development side. When you are developing something and know its a turd, it makes it hard to stay focused on it.

    I'm glad to read he did the right things for his employees at least.
     
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    People bought this game. It got shot down and was rendered unplayable after a year. They may not deserve a refund, but they deserve a way to play the game they paid for.

    Being able to play a game you paid money for is entitlement now, despite that being the standard for decades? Fucking amazing. This is how we lose rights. By carrying water for anti-consumer practices like this.
     
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    Well also of note is that he was already somewhat well off from prior successes with EPIC.
     
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    This throws my entire perception of reality into question. Clone? New IP? Or long-lost crap? Taking all bets! I also offer video poker.
     
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    He started some of your favorite space games ever, but they only ever got finished because he was forcibly removed from them.
     
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    Are we listing a-holes who like to rip into gamers when their games fail, or simply failed devs? Either way the list is not complete.
     
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    Just so you know, the word entitlement, means something you have a right to. For instance: when you exchange money for something, you have a right to it ie you are entitled to it. It really seems to be over the last few years peopel have started thinking the word entitlement means freebie when that is completely incorrect.
     
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    In the immortal words of Barack Obama: "He didn't build that."
     
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    Too bad that doesn't equate anything to today. Every about everything has changed since then. It's -almost- the equivalent of saying I used to make board games before computers, now I'mma make a video game, surely it's the same thing and I'm still awesome :D
     
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    Imagine if they made a game together? It would be proof that there is no god. Each copy would open a black hole and devour the entire universe.
     
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    We got Freelancer in spite of him, not because of him. Star Citizen is in the state it is because no company was willing to salvage his mess this time.
     
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    Bleszinski had a lot to do with the greatness of Unreal Tournament, and maybe Unreal itself. I didn't care for the persona he pushed, but that has nothing to do with talent. He has certainly contributed.
     
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    He also said long ago that he would only work on console games, because all PC gamers pirate their games.
     
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    I hope Cliff is talking a lot to Todd.
     
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    Get woke, go broke.
     
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    This is the fault of using servers run by the studio. If a game allows for online play, it should be required to be designed for community servers, so it can survive if the studio folds.

    IMHO, I'd be happy if all non-community servers were banned. Online gaming has gone downhill in the era of automatic matchmaking on official servers.

    The sense of community is gone, even in games that offer community servers as an alternative, as the community servers are typically dead, because no one is forced to play on them as everyone is too lazy and just wants to click a "play now" button.

    I barely ever play online games anymore for this reason. The official server area has killed a huge part of the magic.

    The death of official servers as a thing would be hugely beneficial to online games.
     
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    Did he though ?

    Think you should thank Warren Spector for wing commander... and Phil Wattenbarger / Jörg Neumann for freelancer. Roberts is a flim flam man.

    One interesting thing about Spector.... he also worked with John Romero who allowed him (wiht $) to create DeusEx. Romero at least was about designing actual games and knew well enough to get out of Spectors way of a more talented designer. Roberts is a guy that sinks studios, dumps vaporware on MS (ok kudos there) and bilked little old Germans out of their savings.... now he is forever ruining the idea of crowd sourcing.
     
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    I was under the impression he had a pretty large creative hand in the development of WC Privateer, which I LOVED in the early 90's, but maybe not?
     
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