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karelson

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Hi,
I have recently bought a Sharp LC32D62U lcd tv.I want to use it as a tv and pc monitor.
I have a VisionTek x1950 pro card.And he can't connect to my new LCD and send 1080P.
I tryed to work it around but looks like a knowen issue with ati.
so i guss i need a new card.
I have :E6750 ,4GB ocz gold rev 2.0,Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L.

I want to play games at mid range but high res on my new 32" tv.
i want to connect the tv to the pc with sound throu the video card.

Which one of those you suggest :

1.
PNY VCG88512GXPB GeForce 8800GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail - 150$ARhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133205

2.
PALiT NE/9600T+0152 GeForce 9600GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail - 120$ARhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814261002&CMP=AFC-C8Junction

3.
PALiT NE/960TSX0202 GeForce 9600GT SONIC 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail - 170$AR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814261013&nm_mc=OTC-RSS&cm_mmc=OTC-RSS-_-Desktop+Graphics-_--_-N82E16814261013&CMP=AFC-C8Junction

4.
DIAMOND Viper 3870PE4512SB Radeon HD 3870 512MB 256-bit GDDR4 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail - 150$AR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814103050
 
1080p is pretty high resolution.

I'd say the 8800GTS 512MB (G92) or 8800/9800GTX would be your best bets for price/performance.
 
Hi,
i want some thing from thatm list.....

but how is EVGA 320-P2-N811-AR GeForce 8800GTS 320MB 320-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail

comperd to the cards i posted?
 
The 8800GT is far superior to the 8800GTS 320mb.

If you must choose something from the above list, definitely go with the 8800GT.

Really though if your planning to game with your HDTV, it would be worth the extra 50 bucks (AR) to step up to the 8800GTS 512mb.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130337
($209 AR)

Regardless, go with XFX or EVGA for the lifetime warranty ;)
 
hey,
Thank you all for the replay.but i am still abit confused.

By the way let say i want to add 50$ more to my boudget, what here sounds good?

1.EVGA 640-P2-N824-AR GeForce 8800GTS 640MB 320-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130327

2.EVGA 640-P2-N829-AR GeForce 8800GTS SSC 640MB 320-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card 199$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130317

3.XFX PVT88GYDF4 GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150261
 
Number 3, the XFX 512mb model. FOR SURE.

(The 512mb version is a newer and FASTER revision)

Go with that XFX and you will not be disappointed.
 
While the 9600GT is an excellent performer, you mentioned wanting to game on your 1080p HDTV.

That high of a resolution requires a lot of power which the 9600GT simply cannot provide.

So basically it boils down to two video card:

1. If you want to connect your PC to the HDTV for gaming, you DEFINITELY want to go with the XFX 8800GTS 512mb.

2. If you plan to game on an average size monitor, the Palit 9600GT 512mb will suit you just fine.
 
karelson said:
if i game on my hdtv with mid range settings how will it look?
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With the 8800GTS, you can play at 1080p on your HDTV with HIGH settings and it will look GREAT.

The 9600GT on the other hand, even with low settings, it might be too choppy at your HDTV's native resolution (1080p) to be playable.

Like I was saying in the previous post, if you plan to play games on your HDTV it would be wise to go with the 8800GTS 512mb.
 
I would go with the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125088

I think for the price its its a very solid card, completes with the standard 8800GTS versions in most games and from what I have read about it, it has very good overclockability with the Zalman fan. I was thinking about getting it myself, but I got a speeding ticket today so I'll have to hold off.

Note: Rebate is only good until the 30th.

I would have to say that the 9600 GT runs games pretty decently at 1920by1200 on high settings. Its not going to allow you to max out every game, but I have a 1080p monitor with a 9600 GT and I can run games fine at 1080p at high settings. I think it really depends more on how much you want to spend, and what games you want to play. If you go with 9600 get the 512mb version. I don't believe the extra memory its going to make that much of a performance difference and if your gonna spend 170, you might as well get the 8800 GT.
 
ok, last question what do you think about the
PNY VCG88512GXPB GeForce 8800GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail - **150$**ARhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814133205

the 8800GT is better then 8800GTS as far as i read. and the price is great.
 
8800GT 512mb outperforms the 8800GTS 320mg version but not the 8800GTS 512mb or 640mg versions

Honestly I would go with the Gigabyte card over the PNY if you are gonna get the 8800GT . AR its only 10 bucks more and come stock with a faster core and I think the mem clock is faster was well.
 
Again, regardless of what you choose, I highly recommend Evga or XFX for their lifetime warranty.
 
^Good point, both has better warranties... the Gigabyte only has a 3 yeard warranty.. not sure about PNY.
 
i am very confused right now....sorry.

if thinking about price vs performance.i am not planing to overclock.
out of these card which one you suggest and why.(for my use as i listed above)?

1.
PNY VCG88512GXPB GeForce 8800GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail - 150$ARhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814133205

2.
DIAMOND Viper 3870PE4512SB Radeon HD 3870 512MB 256-bit GDDR4 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail - 150$AR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814103050

3.
MSI NX8800GT 512M OC GeForce 8800GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - 175$AR + 7$s hipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127329

4.
GIGABYTE GV-NX88T512HPV1 GeForce 8800GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail - 160$AR +7$ shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125088
 
ECS is "ok".

I had an ECS Athlon XP motherboard a few years back.... Worked great.

Some of my friends didn't have such luck and ended up exchanging their boards 1-2 times....

Are you against EVGA and XFX? EVGA is THE Nvidia card supplier these days and the lifetime warranty is killer.
 
SO if i need to choose from those 5 what shuld that be?

1.PALiT NE/960TSX0202 GeForce 9600GT SONIC 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 - 170$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814261013

2.PALiT NE/9600T+0152 GeForce 9600GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - 120$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814261002

3.PALiT NE/960TSX0252 GeForce 9600GT SONIC 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 - 154$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814261001

4.ECS N8800GTS-512MX GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 - 170$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814134037

5.MSI NX8800GTS 512M OC GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express - 194$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127325

or should i wait till new card from ATI or NVIDIA will come?
 
horrorshow said:
Just a heads up, I've had two bad experiences with PNY. (One was a fan issue and another card was just bad) Get this one.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130318 EVGA 8800GT 512mb($160 AR)

EVGA Lifetime Warranty FTW :)
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It's now down to $145 AR... :eek: Even if you're concerned with the stock cooler's noise/temps and you slap an AC S1 on it (even at Newegg's bloated price of $30) that's still a heck of a deal, heh. It's probably a temporary deal so grab it while it's hot! :D

It's easily the best deals amongst the 8800GTs imo, $145 with a nice lifetime warranty is hard to beat... Edit: Although I believe there's an XFX (also w/lifetime wrrty.) that's going for $170 AR and it comes with Company of Heros, so you could say it's like $150 if you don't have own said game already, heh.

I think it's even OC'd by like 40 MHz out of the box. Oddly enough there's a non-OC'd version which also comes with CoH and it's going for $180, granted there's no rebate involved there.
 
@ karelson Why did you eliminate all your 8800GT's from your options? It's a faster card than the 9600GTs... 8800GTS 512MB >> 8800GT 512MB > 8800GTS 640MB (old card) >> 9600GT 512MB > 8800GTS 320MB (old card) Obviously the old GTS are not even worth considering for price/performance issues, but for playing at 1920x1080 you'll want at 'least the 8800GT, if not the 8800GTS, as everyone's told you.

Myself, I'd probably go with either of the two 8800GTs I mentioned in my previous post ('specially for $145, that's a steal, idk why the 9600GT's you're looking at are running so high, there's much cheaper 9600s) OR the MSI 8800GTS you listed for $195, although there's a PNY going for $190 AR too... But the MSI comes with a free game.

I'm kinda wary of ECS myself, and they somehow undercutting everyone by $30 on the GTS doesn't inspire any confidence. /shrug

P.S. IMO there's no reason to pay more than $160 for any 8800GT unless it has a nice bundled game that you want; much less a 9600GT, shouldn't pay more than $135 for those imo... ARs 'course.
 
asd1301 said:
cos it's not in the G92 category in NEWEGG ....
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All 8800GTS that have 512MB of memory are automatically G92s, and all 8800GT are G92s as well. The older 640MB/320MB GTS are the G88s.

asd1301 said:
and what the hell is that "REBATE" word means :) ??? disscount or something ?
what do i need to do to get this good "rebate" price ? :confused:
10x
ps : sorry ...my english isn't so good :rolleyes:
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It's something you send in with a proof of purchase (receipt, UPC, etc.) and a few weeks/months later they send you back a check or CC for the listed amount.
 
Impulse said:
@ karelson Why did you eliminate all your 8800GT's from your options? It's a faster card than the 9600GTs... 8800GTS 512MB >> 8800GT 512MB > 8800GTS 640MB (old card) >> 9600GT 512MB > 8800GTS 320MB (old card) Obviously the old GTS are not even worth considering for price/performance issues, but for playing at 1920x1080 you'll want at 'least the 8800GT, if not the 8800GTS, as everyone's told you.
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Actually performance table goes like this:
8800 GTS 512 > 8800 GT > 9600 GT > 8800 GTS 640MB > 8800 GTS 320MB

9600 GT is better performer than 8800 GTS 640MB, but there's no big difference..320MB model on other hand loses badly.

Palit 9600 GT - $120 at Newegg [and this card is just brilliant, good overclocker, good cooling fan etc]

Cheapest 8800 GT 512 was $145.. that's 20% more expensive than 9600 GT; 8800 GT wins (in performance) by 5-15%, in DX10 that difference seems to be pretty low..
 
No, there's just G92 and G88, period... All 640/320MB GTS cards were G88s. All 512MB GTS/GT cards are G92 regardless of whether it says so on Newegg's description or not. Hope the ECS turns out fine for ya, I'm just wary of it because of the brand (and the fact that they don't have rated core/mem speeds on the site).
 
Sorry to say but this TV maybe 1080P but according to the manual it is not compatible with resolutions over 1360x768(WXGA) or 1280x1024(SXGA). Check your manual on page 14 for the "PC format Compatibility Chart". I could be reading it wrong but be prepared for disappointing quality even if the image does display.

I had this problem with a TV I bought a few months ago. Always check the manual online before buying a TV. A surprising number of them do not support the full resolution of the panel from a PC, be it VGA, DVI, or HDMI input.
 
Impulse said:
No, there's just G92 and G88, period... All 640/320MB GTS cards were G88s. All 512MB GTS/GT cards are G92 regardless of whether it says so on Newegg's description or not. Hope the ECS turns out fine for ya, I'm just wary of it because of the brand (and the fact that they don't have rated core/mem speeds on the site).
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lol um you mean G80, not G88.
 
Err, yeah, my bad.

Waypo said:
I had this problem with a TV I bought a few months ago. Always check the manual online before buying a TV. A surprising number of them do not support the full resolution of the panel from a PC, be it VGA, DVI, or HDMI input.
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What's a little more common than that is them not supporting the full res. thru the VGA port but running it fine thru HDMI (w/a DVI->HDMI cable or dongle).
 
Waypo said:
Sorry to say but this TV maybe 1080P but according to the manual it is not compatible with resolutions over 1360x768(WXGA) or 1280x1024(SXGA). Check your manual on page 14 for the "PC format Compatibility Chart". I could be reading it wrong but be prepared for disappointing quality even if the image does display.

I had this problem with a TV I bought a few months ago. Always check the manual online before buying a TV. A surprising number of them do not support the full resolution of the panel from a PC, be it VGA, DVI, or HDMI input.
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I found that with a lot of 720p tv's as well. A lot of 1024x768 which is short of actual 720p res.
 
Hi,
Well so far the situation is like this....my HD is making me problems.....but......

Gears of war on high settings(as far as i find) and 1920X1080 runns fine for the 10 min that i played.
COD4 - on the same settings running with hickups....i need to play more with settings.

so far the card is good but i have isues with 1080P movie the collors are not alive and the picture is not sharp.....i need to play with the new driver i instaled the 169 today i will try the 174.

i hope to post a review....Ithink on a 22" screen the games will run smooth.....
 
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