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Calling Logitechfreak

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gb3 said:
OMG! just got back from holiday to find this thread. I bought a Q6600 from LogitechFreak nearly 3 weeks ago and it still hasnt come!

Any advice?
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bend over

and then file a police report

or don't
 
For those who do not wish to pursue charges, what's the point of calling them out and looking like plain assholes? It's their right if they wish to file police reports or just bite their losses. If you want to file a report go ahead and do it. Don't insult other people for their own choices and opinions. That said, I have every bit of sympathy for those who did get shafted, but as they say... if it is too good to be true, chances are it is. When you take a risk on a product with unbelievable prices, there is a high chance you will get scammed. If you want to file a report go ahead. If nothing comes out of it, bite the bullet and live and learn... don't jump on unbelievable deals anymore.
 
amoeba1126 said:
For those who do not wish to pursue charges, what's the point of calling them out and looking like plain assholes? It's their right if they wish to file police reports or just bite their losses. If you want to file a report go ahead and do it. Don't insult other people for their own choices and opinions.
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While that is true, one thing that makes this a trading community and not just a venue like e-bay is that we help eachother when the time comes. Even if you are ready to just count your losses, by not filing a report you jeopardize the ability for those who do wish to pursue justice.
 
Yea and I completely agree with you VA, that people should help each other. However, that still does not mean people can act so rude to them. It's those people's choice whether or not they want to help the rest of [H]. As I said, it is their choice and people shouldn't knock on them or express blatant rudeness.
 
VICTIMS: If you have signed up on the Victim's thread, please check your PM inbox, I have PM'ed everyone with additional info.
 
I called chris, I called the sheriff, filed complaints with the w3 whatever.

in the end, I got my Mac back from the scammer, I'm out 20 bucks,

With all that, and the ultimate resolution of getting my item back, would filing a criminal complaint be prudent, it can be stated that while the sale failed, it was an inconvenience, my speaking with both Chris and his mother is that he intends to repay everything, I recomend contacting his mother and talking with her.

I feel for people still waiting on answers, but I don't believe that my filing a criminal complaint would be helpful since a resolution has been achieved.
 
he still tells me that he just got in over his head..

contact his mother by email.. instead of hounding her by phone.. army573@gmail.com she has taken over his email.
 
Silvers24 said:
I say contact her by phone, rather then e-mail, at least you get to hear who you talk to.
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40+people calling here everyday? how in the hell would anyone be able to keep track of everything? by email everything is already sorted and hard to lose track..
 
I recieved my Mac Mini from LogitechFreak, minus the right arrow on the mac aluminum keyboard, everything appears to be in working order, I'll be running some tests tomorrow, but it looks like things worked out decent on this end.

I hope things work out for everyone else as well.

and for those who donated money to my son, I have returned all the donations as things have worked out for me.
 
Alright, I emailed his Mom on army573@gmail.com just a minute ago. Hopefully i will get a response....if i dont get a response in 2 days MAX, Ill go and file a report
 
well what can i say, i received my 2x512 ddr600 today,, the one he owed me. last week i had an email from his id asking for my address. i did and that person gave me a tracking number.. i made that person clear that i had no intention of beleiving it. eventually i received it today.
 
Devilotx said:
I recieved my Mac Mini from LogitechFreak, minus the right arrow on the mac aluminum keyboard, everything appears to be in working order, I'll be running some tests tomorrow, but it looks like things worked out decent on this end.

I hope things work out for everyone else as well.

and for those who donated money to my son, I have returned all the donations as things have worked out for me.
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Well dang, that's kind of an important key.... maybe your local mac store has an extra one?
 
ok so who all here has been refunded or got there items or issued a charge back. we need to start narrowing down the final amounts owed.
 
I am so amazed people are getting their stuff back. Responsible mom to the rescue.
 
ok i just got an email from chris's mom asking this:

chris stated to me that he sold two 74gb western digital raptors. he is wanting the persons who bought them to email him so she can send them out. problem though,

he only has one good 74gb raptor he stated he ran the sector check on both drives last night and one of the drives had 4 bad sectors. so to whom every hasn't bought a replacement drive or who ever decides they need it the most please email me at this email address.

the contact email address once again is army573@gmail.com

i know holly4pirating bought one but off the top of my head i can't remember the other person.
edit: ok the second buyer of the raptors was Brahmzy one of the two people please contact him/her at the above email address.
 
dK`_unlimited said:
ok i just got an email from chris's mom asking this:

chris stated to me that he sold two 74gb western digital raptors. he is wanting the persons who bought them to email him so she can send them out. problem though,

he only has one good 74gb raptor he stated he ran the sector check on both drives last night and one of the drives had 4 bad sectors. so to whom every hasn't bought a replacement drive or who ever decides they need it the most please email me at this email address.

the contact email address once again is army573@gmail.com

i know holly4pirating bought one but off the top of my head i can't remember the other person.
edit: ok the second buyer of the raptors was Brahmzy one of the two people please contact him/her at the above email address.
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EDIT: I'm referring to the individual with whom dK'_unlimited is corresponding with via email.

I'm calling complete BS on the assertion that this is anyone other than Chris himself.

Complete speculation on my part, but you have no reason to assume that this is anyone but Chris communicating via Chris' email address. Given the tone, detail and context of the emails, it's irrational to assume otherwise.
 
dK`_unlimited said:
you know what im tired of this. im here trying to help these people get their money or items like promised yet people are still accusing others to be chris.

i am not chris. my name is jerry not chris.
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Maybe I didn't make it clear enough: The sender of the emails is who my post was referencing. I'll edit my original reply to make that crystal clear.
 
aaronjb said:
Maybe I didn't make it clear enough: The sender of the emails is who my post was referencing. I'll edit my original reply to make that crystal clear.
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oh, ok. well i can tell that it is two different people when talking to chris or talking to his mother, chris has a small attitude about this so i know when he is the one writing to me. and his mother is forever apologizing for the trouble he has caused.
 
I just received an email from the Consumer Investigator from the Orange County Consumer Fraud Unit from when I filed with IC3. He said he spoke with Chris and that Chris said I had given him some time to send a refund money order (I gave him 2 weeks in an email last week). I told the Investigator that I told him he had 2 weeks 7 days ago. Hopefully since people seem to be getting their items, maybe I really will get my $70 back.

I havnt watched this thread very closely in the past 4-5 days but I saw at Anandtech this was posted:

~~~ UPDATE 12/4/07 ~~~

I received this email from Corporal Beasely:

Subject: Chris Chartier Update
From: jbeasley@pcsheriff2.com
Date: 12/04/2007 4:32 PM

Harvey,

I am sending you this e-mail so you can post it on your forums [if you so desire]. As of 12/04/07, I have closed the investigation into the activities of Chris Chartier. However, before doing so, I checked the Anandtech forum thread that discussed Chris Chartier. I saw he took my advice and began to send out the items that he had "stolen" and began to make reparations for the frauds.

I truly hope he follows through and all the victims get their due. It sickens me that we must close this case but with such a small department, we have to pick our battles. I have printed all the e-mails I have received so the Sheriff can assign the case to a reserve deputy that may be able to spend more quality time with it.

The unfortunate thing with property crimes is that without victim involvement, our hands are tied. This case was unique because if Chris gets charged, victims will have to fly in from all over the country and Canada to place his coconuts in the cracker. I think that is the main consideration behind the Sheriff's decision, if they won't file the reports, will they testify.

Do not feel alone in this. Yesterday, I followed up on a storage shed theft and I was unable to get a single victim, out of fifty, to even meet me at the storage sheds to identify their property! So, nothing is more discouraging than knowing this society of ours has become disposable. And what is even more disheartening is I don't know what I can do to change that.

Tell your members that I will still accept e-mails and insert them in the case file. I just won't be working it anymore. Thanks for your help in getting the word out. I hope all goes well for everyone and Merry Christmas.

James S. Beasley
Detective Corporal
Pulaski County Sheriff's Office
301 Historic Route 66E Suite 136
Waynesville, MO 65583
573-774-7948


Like him, I'm really sorry enough of Chris Chartier's victims didn't take the initiative in this matter to protect their own best interests. Unlike Corporal Beasley, I have little faith that Chris will make good to everyone he owes, but you can still send your complaints, and MAYBE something will happen.

I gave it my best shot. Good luck, my friends.
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dK`_unlimited said:
oh, ok. well i can tell that it is two different people when talking to chris or talking to his mother, chris has a small attitude about this so i know when he is the one writing to me. and his mother is forever apologizing for the trouble he has caused.
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Have you spoken to his mother on the telephone? In person?

You have no idea whether or not this is Chris. Logic tells you that it is Chris on the other end of those emails.

I point to your first post on these forums that lead me to believe you aren't acting rationally with regards to this situation:

dK`_unlimited said:
man you guys jump all over people around here don't you?

i say give this kid a chance..

i've seen past bad-traders here get banned and the people still never get there money..

maybe if you just only allowed them to access pm's and not the forum f/s f/t wtb section you guys would may be get the money back?

this guy here seems to have done alot of transactions lately..

maybe if you guys stop harassing him he could get the time to get proof that he did ship the stuff?
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Is this a direct quote from the email you received?

chris stated to me that he sold two 74gb western digital raptors. he is wanting the persons who bought them to email him so she can send them out. problem though,

he only has one good 74gb raptor he stated he ran the sector check on both drives last night and one of the drives had 4 bad sectors. so to whom every hasn't bought a replacement drive or who ever decides they need it the most please email me at this email address.

the contact email address once again is army573@gmail.com
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Because if so, then all three parties involved - you, Chris and his mother - have suspiciously similar grammar, structure and word usage.

Also, did you get scammed again here:

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1031730529
 
No mother I've ever met knows what

"he only has one good 74gb raptor he stated he ran the sector check on both drives last night and one of the drives had 4 bad sectors."

means in any way shape or form.

I'd be willing to wager that its Chris and no mom at all.
 
aaronjb said:
Have you spoken to his mother on the telephone? In person?

You have no idea whether or not this is Chris. Logic tells you that it is Chris on the other end of those emails.

I point to your first post on these forums that lead me to believe you aren't acting rationally with regards to this situation:



Is this a direct quote from the email you received?

Because if so, then all three parties involved - you, Chris and his mother - have suspiciously similar grammar, structure and word usage.

Also, did you get scammed again here:

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1031730529
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I just typed out what I read. so no not a direct quote.
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No I was not scammed by him the drives are on there way to me actually. he just shipped them really late due to work problems which I'm fine with.
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I've called and talked with him mother. she confirmed that she was answering some of his emails.
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But then again, it could be his girlfriend or some random girl, who knows. you are completely right. but people have been getting refunds or there items so I'm trying to keep everything updated since some of the others have already given up on this, yes the police have already made his case closed but he does still owe people and we should see/know who has been refunded or got their items and who has already made chargebacks.


Taylor: maybe chris wrote a note to his mother in the morning stating that or maybe he told her what to write i don't know alright I'm just trying to help you guys and help chris get this stuff straightened out. thats what this is all about is it not? to get peoples items to them or get their refunds?
 
dK`_unlimited said:
I just typed out what I read. so no not a direct quote.
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No I was not scammed by him the drives are on there way to me actually. he just shipped them really late due to work problems which I'm fine with.
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I've called and talked with him mother. she confirmed that she was answering some of his emails.
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But then again, it could be his girlfriend or some random girl, who knows. you are completely right. but people have been getting refunds or there items so I'm trying to keep everything updated since some of the others have already given up on this, yes the police have already made his case closed but he does still owe people and we should see/know who has been refunded or got their items and who has already made chargebacks.


Taylor: maybe chris wrote a note to his mother in the morning stating that or maybe he told her what to write i don't know alright I'm just trying to help you guys and help chris get this stuff straightened out. thats what this is all about is it not? to get peoples items to them or get their refunds?
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I'm not sure what repercussions this will have for my account here, but I can't be alone in thinking that this dk'_unlimited account is another one of Chris Chartier's sock puppets.
 
His grammar and tone seem suspiciously similar to chris's. I wouldn't put it past him to create yet another account and try to win everyone that he screwed over again.
 
jaded25 said:
I got the same email but at this point I wouldn't believe anything he says anymore. Don't be surprised if 2-6 weeks go by and you don't see a dime.
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Yes I got that too.. but I dont have much faith on this. I have to pay my tuition fee, and being out $410 is not helping at all..............
 
Newbi said:
Yes I got that too.. but I dont have much faith on this. I have to pay my tuition fee, and being out $410 is not helping at all..............
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I hear ya on that. I just emailed him back saying why the 2-6 weeks wait? At this point your word doesn't mean much especially after you scammed over 15 people for over $4k and emptied your paypal account.
 
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