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Bulldozer delayed til Q3?

drescherjm said:
Hmm the second link (translated one) shows an FX-8150 instead of an FX-8130P.
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Yeah but the rest of the other product #s are lower...so is this supposed to be Bulldozer Enhanced? Or did something change?
 
:p I read that rumor last week. It didn't seem to be supported yet so I didn't post it.
 
whether the chip launch is on target or pushed back, we'll at least get some performance numbers in a few weeks.

getting some benchmarks is more important. once people get the performance figures, it'll make it fairly easy to decide what chip upgrade to get. if there is a few extra weeks tacked on to retail availability, so be it. no big deal.
 
In the second link, there is still talk of certain Asus and MSI AM3 boards supporting Zambezi, but you haven't heard much else from either Asus or MSI.

The delay could be to increase the amount of processors available on day one, or maybe it is being pushed back because of OEMs either increasing their allocation of Zambezi or increasing their allocation of Llano chips.

Either way, the rumored delay just screams 'supply issue'.

EDIT: I still think Zambezi must be really good, not beat SB by 50% 'good', but close enough 'good'. Why else would Nvidia allow SLi on the upcoming AMD 9-series chipsets? Can't be out of the goodness of their hearts, because SLi would have been 'enabled' on 7xx and 8xx chipsets after Nvidia exited the chipset business.

I'm not worrying about the delay, because I'm still looking at buying an AM3+ board and running my 555 (hopefully 'core unlocking' functions are available) on it until Zambezi launches.
 
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JMccovery said:
EDIT: I still think Zambezi must be really good, not beat SB by 50% 'good', but close enough 'good'. Why else would Nvidia allow SLi on the upcoming AMD 9-series chipsets? Can't be out of the goodness of their hearts, because SLi would have been 'enabled' on 7xx and 8xx chipsets after Nvidia exited the chipset business.
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one reason, money.....right now nvidia has a market, however small it is, of AMD users who cannot use SLI since the nvidia chipsets for AMD have been PoS for ages
 
Daemos said:
Yeah but the rest of the other product #s are lower...so is this supposed to be Bulldozer Enhanced? Or did something change?
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Easy binning.

The launches before were the 8130 8110 6110 and 4110

Now they are saying that that in 2 months after launch there will be a faster 8 core and then once they have enough stock of lower binned chips to supply demand at cheaper prices that each series will have a lower binned part (and apparently by the numbers the lowest shipping speed of these series).

All of those models seem to have the same thing associated they would either end up being higher demand parts or in the case of a 8150, a part that they might need to cherry pick this early in production.
 
pxc said:
Because nvidia is dropping out of the PC chipset business. :p SLI was available on AMD platforms when nvidia made AMD chipsets. Charging mobo manufacturers to allow SLI to work on new chipsets is a substitute.

Adjust speculation using that factoid. ;)
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I know, don't you think that's what I meant when I said:
Can't be out of the goodness of their hearts, because SLi would have been 'enabled' on 7xx and 8xx chipsets after Nvidia exited the chipset business
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I think it would suck less if we had some idea of what was happening. Right now people are clamoring around translating german web links and conjecturing about the the 5.6 core transverse lanes that power Mr. Fusion on Bulldeezer's 99999fx3 eastbridge.

There's so much conflicting crap and AMD's about as transparent with this product as a bank vault door. I don't even know what's being released anymore. It might not even be a processor. It's probably an electric sheep that you can't tell from a real sheep. God, I'm going to be depressed. I don't want an electric sheep, I don't have the room for it. I just wanted a new processor.
 
InternationalHat said:
I think it would suck less if we had some idea of what was happening. Right now people are clamoring around translating german web links and conjecturing about the the 5.6 core transverse lanes that power Mr. Fusion on Bulldeezer's 99999fx3 eastbridge.

There's so much conflicting crap and AMD's about as transparent with this product as a bank vault door. I don't even know what's being released anymore. It might not even be a processor. It's probably an electric sheep that you can't tell from a real sheep. God, I'm going to be depressed. I don't want an electric sheep, I don't have the room for it. I just wanted a new processor.
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I would love to have a Mr. Fusion powered Bulldozer.

I guess we won't know until E3/Computex. Meh, I can wait.
 
I strongly doubt there's any truth to the story, but I'm going to spread it around the internet anyway just so AMD will provide a real release date.
 
fattypants said:
I strongly doubt there's any truth to the story, but I'm going to spread it around the internet anyway just so AMD will provide a real release date.
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Pfffttt... as if that will ever work. :rolleyes:

People can't wait a few weeks before spreading more FUD ?
 
fattypants said:
I strongly doubt there's any truth to the story, but I'm going to spread it around the internet anyway just so AMD will provide a real release date.
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Yeah, that will get thier attention. :rolleyes:
LOL I don't think they care what the internet forums say.
 
aphasia said:
getting some benchmarks is more important. once people get the performance figures, it'll make it fairly easy to decide what chip upgrade to get.
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I am pretty sure that is why we don't have performance numbers yet. :D
 
Red Shirt said:
I am pretty sure that is why we don't have performance numbers yet. :D
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There has already been discussion on why performance numbers aren't out. If they were out, OEMs would hold orders or return stock causing AMD to lose money (or something along that line)
 
where is that amd guy to chime in on this? glad i got my sandy instead of waiting.
 
I just hope it gets released soon. I want a cheap Phenom ii 6-core cpu!
 
I think they will release the four Zambezi cpus that we have been hearing about, including 8130P, in the beginning of June. Probably with limited supply. The four other cpus i'm not so sure. They could be a new stepping with some improvements or just a scheduled release of clock speed increases.
 
I don't get why everyone is so eager to upgrade their system. It's not like there's anything worthwhile that's coming out, game wise, in the next few month that's going to take advantage of the new hardware. :rolleyes:

As long as it comes out before Battlefield 3 and Skyrim in November then I'm good.
 
Yeah, by Celeron 300a overclocked to 450mhz is still kicking butt!
 
Evi1d33d said:
I don't get why everyone is so eager to upgrade their system. It's not like there's anything worthwhile that's coming out, game wise, in the next few month that's going to take advantage of the new hardware. :rolleyes:

As long as it comes out before Battlefield 3 and Skyrim in November then I'm good.
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Not all of us care about gaming. I play maybe 2-3 pc games a year for a week or two each sporadically. Virtual machines, eclipse-based IDE's, and production deployments of the software suite I work on use a lot of resources.
 
InternationalHat said:
Not all of us care about gaming. I play maybe 2-3 pc games a year for a week or two each sporadically. Virtual machines, eclipse-based IDE's, and production deployments of the software suite I work on use a lot of resources.
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And some of us like to upgrade just for the sake of upgrading, lol.

I use some programs that can greatly benefit from greater single-threaded performance. Wii emulators anyone? :D
 
Evi1d33d said:
I don't get why everyone is so eager to upgrade their system. It's not like there's anything worthwhile that's coming out, game wise, in the next few month that's going to take advantage of the new hardware. :rolleyes:

As long as it comes out before Battlefield 3 and Skyrim in November then I'm good.
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Seriously? Seems that you need to read this forum a bit more. Most of us are obsessed with this stuff and reasoning/logic does not come into play when we are shown new shinny hardware.

I have a sickness, the only prescription is moar/new hardware.
 
And then you have those like me who haven't upgraded in years. That's ok, though. I'll wait until Black Friday/Cyber Monday to order new stuff. I'm just curious about BD.
 
3rd Quarter is July. That is not a delay. They were planning to unviel the chip in June and sell it July. So I dont get what the scare is?
 
Hope the hell I get another job or unemployment by then. I want an upgrade! I am tired of this case it is driving me batty!!! And gives me a reason to offload/ help out my folks with a new pc.
 
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