Built New PC for Crysis [Need help]

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isaac27

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This NEW PC is for my friend [he have 20" LCD]

CPU:
INTEL CORE 2 QUAD S775 2.4GHz Q66000 STEPING G0 - BOX

Cooling:
ARCTIC-COOLING FREEZER 7 PRO

Mobo :
EVGA NFORCE 680i SLI 775

Memory :
CORSAIR DUAL CHANNEL 2048MB DDR2 800 (1024X2) DUAL XMS2 CL 4-4-4-12 - TWIN2X2048-6400C4

Video Card:
EVGA PCI-EX GeForce 8800GTS 320MB GDDR3 320 BIT TV/O DVI - 320-P2-E811-AR

Storage :
SEAGATE BARRACUDA 250GB 16MB 7200 RPM SATA2 - NCQ - ST3250620AS

DVD RW :
LG DVDRW GSA-H44N DOUBLE LAYERED X18 - BLACK - BULK

Case : NZXT APOLLO w/o PS -BLACK

P/S: ENERMAX LIBERTY 500W - ELT500AWT
 
That 320 gts will be woefully inadequate for playing Crysis. You will be better servered with a 8800gt instead,

Since your friend only has a 20" LCD, you don't need SLI support. Ditch the motherboard and go for something P35 based. Abit IP35 or Gigabyte DS3L/R are good starts for you to look into.
 
CPU:
Q6600 G0 - Great CPU, lots of potential! Get it from Clubit, gurantee G0 and free lost planet :p

Cooling :
1) Asus Silent Square, AC7Pro can't handle Quad and it's noisy, trust me I have been through that!
2) Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme* + Scythe S-Flex SFF21E or F - it will most likely hit the PSU if it is mounted with the fan being an exhaust becuz the cpu socket is much higher on evga's 680i mobo if you compare to other brand

Mobo :
EVGA 680i SLI is not the best quad ocer and not pci-e 2.0, you can wait for 780i, but hey this is the best SLI board out right now!

Memory :
1) CORSAIR DDR2 800 TWIN2X2048-6400C4 - not bad
2) Crucial Ballstix DDR2 800 2x1GB - Micron D9, CL4 ram, now $41 at Frys.com :eek: Recommend getting 4x!!! Crysis 64bit :rolleyes:

Video Card :
1) EVGA / XFX / BFG 8800 GT 512MB - this new toy has the same price tag as 320MB GTS with much better performance than 320/640MB version (look for review, its all over the place right now), perform almost like the 8800 GTX, SLI ($250x2) beats a single gtx ($500)

Storage :
SEAGATE BARRACUDA 250GB 16MB 7200 RPM SATA2 - NCQ - ST3250620AS - Great

DVD RW :
1) Samsung SH-S203B - SATA, Fast and reliable, lots of review praise it
2) Samsung SH-S203N - SATA, Fastest DL burner 20X!!!

Case :
1) NZXT APOLLO w/o PS -BLACK - *may hit psu depends on the way you mount the TR Ultra-120 Extreme
2) Cooler Master CM 690 - good airflow, tooless, and too much good thing to say :D
3) Cooler Master Stacker 830 / 832 - crazy airflow, roomy, removable mobo tray!!!

PSU :
1) ENERMAX LIBERTY 500W - ELT500AWT - this can power 8800GT no problem, but Danny will tell you to get the Corsair 520/550W anyway
2) I personally would go for a high voltage PSU with lots of amp in +12V rail, just to be safe when I add more components to the system not just on the edge of being just enough... but Corsair 520W should be sufficient for 8800GT SLI.
 
how about now - is it look okay?
can you give me a link to a good mobo....

CPU - Q6600
Cooling - Asus Silent Square
Mobo - with p35 chipset [witch is the best one for me? ]
Memory - Crucial Ballstix DDR2 800 2x1GB
Video - 8800GT+512MB
Storage : Seagate 250GB+16mb
DVD RW: Samsung SATA
PSU: Corsair 520
Case : Cooler Master CM 690 [Better then the Apollo]

and thanks again this is the BEST FORUM EVER :)
 
If you're really worried about playing Crysis with all the eye candy turned up to the max, you'd honestly be better off waiting till later this month. The new GTS's will be getting rolled out and the updated GTX's will be coming later in the year.

Quite honestly though every benchmark I've seen so far shows the GT hanging right with the GTX at higher resolutions then you're going to run with a 20" LCD. For $250 its hard to argue against the GT.

Anyway, you can decide for yourself. There's no shortage of GT reviews right now.
 
Here's a list of 8800 GT review, even if you play crysis at 22" resolution, this perform like a GTX, but yea rumor has it that a new G92 core GTS is coming out, but price is not yet confirm, I think it won't be any cheaper than GT. GT will probably be $210 in a couple of weeks or so with MIR.

from Xtremesystem forum:
sladesurfer said:
Reviews

Tweaktown: http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1210/msi_geforce_nx8800gt_512mb_graphics_card/index.html

Expreview: http://topic.expreview.com/2007-10-23/1193114539d6255.html

VR-Zone: http://vr-zone.com/articles/Nvidia_Geforce_8800GT_Review/5369.html

AnanadTech: http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3140

TomsHardware: http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/10/29/geforce_8800_gt/index.html

Guru3d: SLI review: http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/468/

[H] Enthusiast: http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTQxMCwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

Techpowerup: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_8800_GT/

Hothardware: http://www.hothardware.com/Articles/NVIDIA_GeForce_8800_GT__G92_Takes_Flight/

FiringSquad: http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_8800_gt_performance/default.asp

Techreport: http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/13479/1
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@ isaac27

Here are some mobo recommendations:
Abit IP35-E Intel P35 Motherboard - $86
Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L Intel P35 Motherboard - $98
Abit IP35 Intel P35 Motherboard - $124
Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R Intel P35 Motherboard - $130
Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3P Intel P35 Motherboard - $155
Gigabyte GA-P35-DS4 Intel P35 Motherboard - $170
Abit IP35 Pro Intel P35 Motherboard - $179

Just to help you out: If you don't need RAID, more than 4 SATA ports or legacy ports, then the IP35-E is a good choice. If you need legacy ports, than the DS3L. If you need firewire and RAID, than the IP35. If you don't need firewire but want 8 SATA ports, RAID, and legacy ports, than the DS3R is a good choice.

We could help you a bit better if you told us what you were looking for in a mobo.

And alexlyc is right, I will recommend that you get the Corsair 520/550W PSUs instead due to their cheaper prices and slightly greater quality and performance:
Corsair VX550 550W PSU - $87
Corsair HX520 520W PSU - $104

Also, you do not need the Ballistix RAM with the Q6600, even if you're planning on overclocking. Any cheap pair of DDR2 RAM is all that you need to OC the Q6600 if you're keeping the FSB:RAM at a 1:1 ratio:

Q6600:
Multi x FSB, RAM Speed = Clock Speed
9 x 266Mhz, DDR2 533 RAM = 2.4Ghz <== Stock Speeds
9 x 333Mhz, DDR2 667 RAM = 3.0Ghz <== Good OC
9 x 400Mhz, DDR2 800 RAM = 3.6Ghz <== Excellent OC, About the average max for it

I only recommend the Ballistix RAM if you had gotten a dual core C2D where the the Ballistix's ability to overclock would've been useful. With that said, I recommend getting this pair of RAM instead:
G.SKILL F2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ 2 x 1GB DDR2 800 RAM - $60
 
$60 on G.Skill? Come on Danny, you gotta admit the ballistix will perform better with lower price $41 this time

Ram is one of the thing like PSU, keeping it higher than what you need will certainly benefit future upgrade, especially the new 45nm intel cpu with much higher fsb.

Hm op, for the mobo, if you gonna spend $190 on 680i, I would either stay with it (next upgrade will only be adding another 8800GT only and you are good to go) or get the Asus P5E / Maximus Formula for $240 to $260, PCI-E 2.0 (not practical but future proof for all the new video card thats gonna come out, cuz they are all PCI-E 2.0 including the 8800GT). All the mobo Danny listed only has 3 to 6 phase power VRM, Asus P5E / Maximus Formula both has 8 phase power VRM which is better for Quad oc'ing. And if you really wanna get a P35 base board, Asus P5K-E / P5K Deluxe / P5K Premium also have 8 phase power VRM.

More phase power VRM is always better at oc'ing, like gigabyte's X38 DQ6 board, 12 Power Phases VRM, making it the best quad oc'er in many benchmark when compare to other brands.
 
The Crucial Ballistix's $41 is after MIR. With that kind of large rebate, I don't count it until I actually have the check in hand. Also, rebates are not always guaranteed and it does take some time for the rebate check to come in, about 1-3 months.

Though if the OP wants to deal with a rebate, then by all means do so.
 
Again Danny, maybe you haven't use a quad before or didn't know, Q6600 multiplier is unlocked, it can be lower to 6, so:

Multi x FSB, RAM Speed = Clock Speed
6 x 400Mhz, DDR2 800 RAM = 2.4Ghz
6 x 500Mhz, DDR2 1000 RAM = 3.0Ghz
6 x 600Mhz, DDR2 1200 RAM = 3.6Ghz

high quality ram is essential if used along with a P35 / X38 base mobo, because they can achieve 500 FSB pretty easily... and many ocer knows higher fsb rules :cool:

Edit: if you look at the oc data base in the forum's intel section, many ocer past the 800 MHz ram speed. Can G.Skill NQ do it? Yes, but can it achieve 1200 MHz? I highly doubt it. I know Ballistix is capable of running 1200 MHz cuz I have seen it, it just need proper air cooling.
 
super pi is nothing, the winrar version he used is old...

I would do some modern game benchmark if I have a P35/X38 board, but my FSB is kinda limited by my 975X so can't do anything higher than 400 FSB... I believe high FSB'ed quad will benefit in Crysis, cuz I think their game is quad optimized
 
Despite your opinion that SuperPi is nothing and that WinRAR version is old, the faster FSB did not yield a real increase in performance with the LAME or x264 encoding or the CS3 batch work.

Yes, Crysis will take advantage of quad-cores according to a recent developer interview. However, I seriously doubt that a faster FSB will provide that much of a performance increase to warrant buying overclockable RAM for the Q6600 according to the link above. Though if you can show me where the faster FSB with a Q6600 yields a very noticeable increase in game performance, I'll be more than glad to read and accept your argument.

Anyway, if the OP wants to deal with the Crucial rebate, then I suggest he get the Crucial then. But if he doesn't want to deal with a rebate, then he should go with the GNBQ set.

While the GNBQ set won't be allow for a higher FSB, if the OP keeps the multi at 9, then the GNBQ is all he needs. If he thinks that that the higher FSB will actually be useful and is willing to deal with a rebate, then fine, he should go for the Crucial RAM.
 
I never had problem with rebate in any of my purchases, two of my crucial rebate came in after 1-2 months of submission. I just simply don't understand how people didn't get the rebate back... writing legibly and make scans of submitted document are not that hard to do :rolleyes:!

Only things I'll avoid dealing with rebate is any rebate that's $100 or higher, reputability also play a role...
 
I've never had a problem with rebates either but it's still no guarantee. Even reputable retailers and manufacturers sometimes screws up rebates.
 
isaac27 said:
how about now - is it look okay?
can you give me a link to a good mobo....

CPU - Q6600
Cooling - Asus Silent Square
Mobo - with p35 chipset [witch is the best one for me? ]
Memory - Crucial Ballstix DDR2 800 2x1GB
Video - 8800GT+512MB
Storage : Seagate 250GB+16mb
DVD RW: Samsung SATA
PSU: Corsair 520
Case : Cooler Master CM 690 [Better then the Apollo]

and thanks again this is the BEST FORUM EVER :)
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Isaac27, I've been itching to upgrade for a while now and this thread was just one of many I've looked at this week. Here's what I ordered today for my new system. Hope some of this helps you too. :D

Thanks to Danny Bui also. Good suggestions!

From ClubIT.com
CORSAIR CMPSU-620HX 620W MODULAR PWR SUP $139.99
CPU,INTEL C2Q Q6600 2.4 S775 SLACR OEM $265.99

From ZipZoomFly.com
COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Mid Tower Case Retail ***Free Shipping*** @ $59.99
Asus Silent Square 3-in-1 CPU Cooler Retail ***Free Shipping*** @ $46.98

From Newegg.com
MB GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS4 P35 775 RTL - Retail (Qty=1, Price=$177.99)
DVD BURN SAMSUNG|SH-S203B % - OEM (Qty=1, Price=$31.99)
THERMAL GREASE ZEROTHERM|ZT100 R - Retail (Qty=1, Price=$5.99)
HD 500G|SAMG 7K 16M SATA2 HD501LJ - OEM (Qty=1, Price=$119.99)

From Amazon.com
1ea - "Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit for System Builders [DVD]"
DVD-ROM; $189.99

From eXtremePCgear.com
2ea - 120mm Yate Loon D12SL-12 SuperSilent PC Case Cooling Fan (120x120x25mm, 3 Pin and 4 Pin Pass-Through Connectors, Orange/Black) $6.99ea

From Frys.com
2ea - DDR2 2GB PC6400 DUAL BAL BALLISTIX LINE, (2X1GB) $161.98 ($40 rebate)

Total with various shipping minus rebate $1243.50


I got a eVga 8800GT SC that I put in my old system last week but it's coming out

and going in this one. That was $279.00 direct from eVGA.

Going to pass the old system (in signature) down to the wife and kids, less one XFX7800GT.
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I agree with Danny. Reviews have shown that the higher FSB yet same resulting clockspeed on Intel chips doesn't yeild much performance increase, if any at all.

Also, I'd suggest the Ultima90 over the Asus Silent Square. The Ultima90 is smaller and lighter, damn easy to install, and performs better than the Asus SS while remaining relatively the same price.

$46 - Thermalright Ultima 90 CPU HS + Panaflo Hydrowave Fan, FBA09A12M - Z ($3)

Review: http://anandtech.com/casecoolingpsus/showdoc.aspx?i=3068&p=4

And on a side-note, the multiplier isn't "unlocked." "Unlocked" multiplier is generally regarded as having no upper limit. The Desktop mainstream Core2's have a multiplier range for EIST/C1E. The lower multipliers don't usually help much, though they are an option... but many wouldn't consider them "unlocked."
 
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