Building around intel q 45

[kinson]

Does anyone have any advice for building around the 45mm.

I have read that the 780i nvidia boards won't support the quads either, which is kinda upsetting as I enjoy the nvidia boards.

I was gonna try to buy some stuff now and some stuff then and hold it together until January. I'm thinking now that this is not such a good idea. Should I wait and see what hits, or do any of you have any advice and now WHAT WILL! work with the 45's properly and be great for gaming?

I plan on building for around a price around $1200 or so! So what do you all think? Please, feed me .

As far as gaming goes, my pc I have right now does pretty well (listed in sig) Do you guys even think it's worth upgrading from this yet ? I mean I can't run crysis on full specs, barely on high, and I average like 30fps on CoD4. It's obvious that performance plays a big part. What do you think?

 

[engiNURD]

What resolution do you game at?
Is your CPU OC'd? If not, why not?

 

[kinson]

I game at 1920x1200...

CPU is NOT overclocked. I have no experience whatsoever on overclocking. I mean at all. I attempted once and had a system crash and almost cried cause I couldn't get it to reboot. I run on all air, no wc. I also do not have an old pc to attempt oc'ing. So, in other words. I don't want to risk frying a pc that cost me over 2k

 

[Dangman]

Well according to Intel, any P35, G33, X38 or X48 mobo will support the new 45nm CPUs. Nvidia has said that its 680i chipset will support Penryn as well. So any mobos based on those chipsets should work well with the 45nm CPUs.

As for OCing, it'll give you a legitimate excuse to buy a new PC in case you do fuck up the OC. There are a ton of guides out there to OC. Just google for them. Also check out the Overclocking and Cooling subforum here for more info on OCing.

Also have you thought about turning down some of your settings? Also remember that Crysis is murder on current systems. It's gonna be a while before new cards come out that can handle the goodness that is Crysis.

 

[kinson]

Nvidia has said that its 680i chipset will support Penryn as well.

Thats false, the 680i and 780i boards will only work wit the e series (dual core) and do not support quad.

As for OCing, it'll give you a legitimate excuse to buy a new PC in case you do fuck up the OC.

I don't want to fuck up a computer I plan on using a long ways down the road

Also have you thought about turning down some of your settings?

I was just using crysis as a rough example. I know that it puts a massive strain on even the newest pc's of the day. I'm just trying to justify buying a new pc, and make sure that the gear I buy will be set for it.

On the side of that, I'm trying to decide if I wanna jump on some of the xmas/thanksgiving deals going on right now, or wait till january/february of 08 before I make any purchase. Trying to be safe and smart and tell myself that "a new computer would be good for you". The more I think about it the less it seems like a worthy cause. I avg 30fps on CoD4 at max settings, inside I avg 60 (due to vsync), so I'm fighting with myself over this. I always do.

 

[tiraides]

It's going to be a while (possibly at least a year) before the newer chipsets (P38, X48) mature enough to offer the performance increases that a lot of people are expecting now. If you really need to build this computer now, get a P35-based board and be happy with your selection. But if you can wait, wait. (Just get a new video card for your current rig, unless you're afraid that your CPU will then become the bottleneck.)

 

[kinson]

umm I already have an 8800gtx ... I'm gonna attempt to see if I can get higher speeds by overclocking (might as well learn) just off of my setup I have now. Which I talk about in the overclocking section!

It's all air cooled, one thing I could do to make it a load better is cut a hole in the top of the case but I REALLY don't wanna screw my case up. It's like a powder coat black, afraid if I drill or anything it'll crack.

The thing is, if you wait forever for better products, you'll do just that. I mean if I wait till next fall, better everything will be dropping out of the sky. I try to have everything as uptodate as I can possibly get. Then as things come along, I just buy a new video card.

I would love to upgrade every 2 years (which seems possible in the upcoming years as prices get lower and lower) instead of every 4 or so years. I'm gonna see what I can do with this PC. I think I'm gonna wait till the end of january before I make any major decision.

 

[Markyip1]

Where did you hear that 680i and 780i chips won't support Penryn quads? I know that the P31 BIOS on the EVGA boards is having trouble with the Extreme chip that's out, but if EVGA and others have promised support, we can expect a future BIOS update to rectify any issues unless we here a definitive otherwise by the 680i resellers.

UPDATE: I just did a bit of research and saw the EVGA post from a moderator stating that Yorkfield Quads won't be supported on 680i chipsets, and that 680i users will need to upgrade to the now-delayed 780i chipset for Penryn quad support. This is terrible news, especially since 45nm chip support was promised on the 680i by both nVidia and EVGA. I hope EVGA allows 680i customers to RMA to the newer chipset when it comes out.

Mark.

 

[kinson]

well I´ve read in a few places that the 780i wouldn´t support it either

 

[engiNURD]

Thats false, the 680i and 780i boards will only work wit the e series (dual core) and do not support quad.

It's not false, they just thought wrong, lol. People are guessing intel fuct them over somehow as revenge for not licensing sli!?!? Anyhow, yes, they did state the chipset was compatible, but they were just wrong and have gone back on their word. Sorry, I'm just nitpicking.

umm I already have an 8800gtx ...

A single GTX should be ok for 1900x1200, but of course not for the latest games. The GTX is over a year old, so it'll have difficulties with the newest games -- especially at super high resolutions. I'd update the card when the replacement comes out. Your CPU should be fine for another year or so at least, IMO... especially if you OC it.

Air cooling is all you need. In fact, I'm using a stock AMD HSF (4x Heatpipes) on my Opteron 165 OC'd to 2.6Ghz (stock is 1.8Ghz). I can actually reach 2.9Ghz, but it runs too hot for my liking, so I held it back. At current speeds and with current cooling solution, the Opty idles at 32°C and reaches 53°C during full load (22° Ambient). I'm thinking of throwing my Tuniq on there and seeing how cool it will stay at 3Ghz, lol.

 

[Dangman]

UPDATE: I just did a bit of research and saw the EVGA post from a moderator stating that Yorkfield Quads won't be supported on 680i chipsets, and that 680i users will need to upgrade to the now-delayed 780i chipset for Penryn quad support. This is terrible news, especially since 45nm chip support was promised on the 680i by both nVidia and EVGA. I hope EVGA allows 680i customers to RMA to the newer chipset when it comes out.

Mark.

Man, that just sucks for 680i users. They got rocked.