Build suggestions

mujtaba

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Well, before we begin, I want ideas on two possible choices, a powerful machine, and a less powerful and upgradable machine, I will call them machine A and machine B.

1) What will you do with the computer ?

It will do a lot of data crunching, think of a lot of pattern and regular expression matching, as well as running a number of virtual machines at the same time, archive packing and unpacking, and might be a remote host too, no gaming, but I might try some light GPGPU work, so a low end dedicated GPU would be my choice, it will also be a development machine.

2) What is your budget ?
A : $800.
B : $1000-$1200.

3) Where do you live ?
Iran, don't worry of the brands, I will probably find whatever you throw at me with probably a +%5~%10 surplus.

4) What parts do you want with this build ?
Don't worry about the keyboard and mouse, put aside $30 for some good one's.

5) Reusing ? No
6) Highly unlikely, I am going to use it as a work machine, won't take risks on lowering the life of the machine, and noise.
7) What size monitor do you have or plan to have?
I want a 17" monitor, a high resolution is not required, can probably do with even a 1280x1024 one.
8) When do you plan on building/buying the PC?
9) What features do you need in a motherboard? RAID? Firewire? Crossfire or SLI support? etc.
Would need Firewire and prefer having eSata (Will not have a lot of use for the eSATA though, so it is not a primary concern)

My work would be increasing progressively, so I can get a less powerful PC first and then use the extra money for getting something better later.
What I have thought of is something among these lines :
Machine A : Getting a good dual Core AMD processor then upgrading to a quad-core once a decent AMD Quad Core gets released after some months ?
Machine B : Getting a Quad Core Core 2 Duo machine, or a Core i7 build friendly with my budget.

I can probably handle the rest if you recommend me a good motherboard that can work 24/7, if it is AMD, I would want it to support 45nm processors.
Something like an AMD 4830 would be more than enough for trying the GPGPU work.
I probably would need a lot of ram, I am thinking of getting 4GB at least.
How much will I be saving on price if I go with a DDRII memory ? (AMD build)

Thank you all for the help :)
 
We need to know exactly what parts you need for that $800 budget. That's why I wrote that part into the FAQ.
 
Okay then, there seems the have been some misunderstanding.

So here are what I was thinking these choices :
Getting a 2.66GHz Core i7
Getting a good Athlon X2 and upgrading to a Quad Core Deneb later
Getting a 2.66-2.83 Core 2 Quad

After thinking about my choices, I think I am going with the Core 2 Quad, since there might be some bugs with the chipset/processor, and reliability is a very important factor for me.
So, now please give input on the parts I must get for these specs :
A Q9550/Q9450 Quad Core processor.
A decent motherboard, and I don't think I am going to do any overclocking.
4-6GB of memory.
300GB of HDD.
eSata and Firewire will be a plus.
A 17" Monitor, though since I don't want a very high resolution, even 1280x1024 would be fine.
A very weak dedicated AMD or nVidia GPU.
I specially have a hard time choosing a reliable motherboard.

Thanks for the help :)
 
For the work you do, you'll be better off with a Core2Quad system, since your budget is too low for an i7 build.

Though, lets see how much this costs for you... please list prices for each of these:

C2Q Q6600, Q9450 or Q9550
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R or Asus P5Q Pro
4GB DDR2-800 2x2GB G.Skill, A-Data, or Corsair
HD4350/4550/4670/4830, 9400GT/9500GT/9600GT/9800GT
WD6400AAKS or WD3200AAKS
Any Corsair PSU or Antec Earthwatts
Any CoolerMaster (532, 534, 590, 690) or Antec case (three hundred, nine hundred, NSK4480, NSK6580, Sonata, etc)
Asus or Samsung DVD Burner SATA
 
Core 2 Quad Q9400 = $295
Core 2 Quad Q9450 = $325
Core 2 Quad Q6600 = $210
ASUS P5Q Pro = $155
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R = $184
Gigabyte GA-EP46-DS3R = $195
Corsair DDR2 800 2GBx2 = $90
640GB WD should be around $75
The price range for 500GB - 750GB is around that range
Radeon 4670 ~ $120 (this is too high, I must actually settle for some other GPU)
The case would be around $50, leave this one to me ;)
How many Watts should the power supply have ?
17" Monitor = ~$170
ASUS Sata DVD-RW = $30

I got these prices from some online retailer, and they are actually a bit higher than the prices that I will be getting for directly.

Edit : By the way, this is meant for the $1000-$1200 budget range :)
 
Any Corsair or Earthwatts PSU will do fine. 450W, 550W, 520W. If you don't have those brands available, list the brands or link us to the site. Can't skimp on the PSU.
 
There is Thermaltake and Coolermaster, Antec and OCZ as well as AcBel.

So no Corsair then?

Hmm, well stick to Antec's Eerthwatts series and you should be fine. Only get the Thermaltake Toughpower series if they're almost equal in price to the Antec Earthwatts. Don't bother with OCZ or Coolermaster. Still on the fence about Acbel.
 
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