Budget Overclocked Machine Under $600

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I'm thinking of building a new system for under $500 without monitor/HDD. Pls recommend.

I'm not new to overclocking, I wrote a huge guide about 4 years ago on E6300 overclocked to 3.8GHz stable. This system just died after more than 4 years. The mobo's capacitor fried. Was told it is liquid state capacitor on the 965P-S3. Didn't want to buy another mobo, coz I was feeling the system a bit slow too. Need a new system.

I haven't done enough research recently to do the best combos.

Any recommendations?

1) What will you be doing with this PC? Gaming? Photoshop? Web browsing?
Mostly browsing. Don't game much at all. Watch movies.

2) What's your budget? Are tax and shipping included?
USD$500 to $600 without tax/rebate.

3) Which country do you live in? If the U.S, please tell us the state and city if possible.
Malaysia, pricing very similar to USA. I know coz I was in USA for 9 years.

4) What exact parts do you need for that budget? CPU, RAM, case, etc. The word "Everything" is not a valid answer. Please list out all the parts you'll need.
CPU, RAM, Motherboard, Graphics card, Power Supply, Casing. Must overclock well. RAM say between 8GB to 16GB?

5) If reusing any parts, what parts will you be reusing?
Solid-State HDD. Graphics card with Dolby Digital Live for my Receiver

6) Will you be overclocking?
Yes, major overclocking. Have experience.

7) What size monitor do you have and/or plan to have?
52" LED TV 1080p with 3D Support which I already own. So, must have HDMI output.

8) When do you plan on bnuilding/buying the PC?
As soon as possible

9) What features do you need in a motherboard? RAID? Firewire? Crossfire or SLI support? USB 3.0? SATA 6Gb/s? eSATA? Onboard video? etc.
NO onboard graphics. I'm thinking value for money, overclock to the max.

10) Do you already have a legit and reusable/transferable OS key/license? If yes, what OS? Is it 32bit or 64bit?
Yes, I have original copy of OS. XP 32bit, and Win7 64bit.
 
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Moved to the correct subforum.

Please answer the stickied "ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS FIRST!" so that we can help you better.
 
You really stress overclocking in your list there, but you state that your uses are

Mostly browsing. Don't game much at all. Watch movies

With those requirements what need do you have to overclock?
 
Do you require a dedicated GPU or would a Core i5-2500k with a motherboard with HDMI out suffice? The Intel HD-3000 graphics aren't too shabby. They definately raised the bar for integrated graphics. So if you're looking for value for the money, overclock to the max, don't need to pay games, I would use the onboard graphics.

Basic build list (no links since I don't know Malaysian retailers.)

~$220 - Intel Core i5-2500k
~$150 - Intel Z-68 Motherboard with HDMI out
~$60 - a high airflow case
~$80 - a decent 600-650W PSU (should okay with something like an Antec Neo Eco 620C 620W)
~$45 - 8GB of RAM
$? - Heatsink and Fan
Total: Approximately $555, leaving some pricing wiggle room.

You didn't mention a heat sink and fan for the new system, but that's a glaring ommission given your desire to overclock. I'm also assuming you have all your storage needs taken care of, including DVD burner.
 
I'm thinking of building a new system for under $500 without monitor/HDD. Pls recommend.

I'm not new to overclocking, I wrote a huge guide about 4 years ago on E6300 overclocked to 3.8GHz stable. This system just died after more than 4 years. The mobo's capacitor fried. Was told it is liquid state capacitor on the 965P-S3. Didn't want to buy another mobo, coz I was feeling the system a bit slow too. Need a new system.

I haven't done enough research recently to do the best combos.

Any recommendations?

1) What will you be doing with this PC? Gaming? Photoshop? Web browsing?
Mostly browsing. Don't game much at all. Watch movies.

2) What's your budget? Are tax and shipping included?
USD$500 to $600 without tax/rebate.

3) Which country do you live in? If the U.S, please tell us the state and city if possible.
Malaysia, pricing very similar to USA. I know coz I was in USA for 9 years.

4) What exact parts do you need for that budget? CPU, RAM, case, etc. The word "Everything" is not a valid answer. Please list out all the parts you'll need.
CPU, RAM, Motherboard, Graphics card, Power Supply, Casing. Must overclock well. RAM say between 8GB to 16GB?

5) If reusing any parts, what parts will you be reusing?
Solid-State HDD. Graphics card with Dolby Digital Live for my Receiver

6) Will you be overclocking?
Yes, major overclocking. Have experience.

7) What size monitor do you have and/or plan to have?
52" LED TV 1080p with 3D Support which I already own. So, must have HDMI output.

8) When do you plan on bnuilding/buying the PC?
As soon as possible

9) What features do you need in a motherboard? RAID? Firewire? Crossfire or SLI support? USB 3.0? SATA 6Gb/s? eSATA? Onboard video? etc.
NO onboard graphics. I'm thinking value for money, overclock to the max.

10) Do you already have a legit and reusable/transferable OS key/license? If yes, what OS? Is it 32bit or 64bit?
Yes, I have original copy of OS. XP 32bit, and Win7 64bit.

From your stated use, you don't really need any of today's systems - overclockable or not. You would be perfectly fine with an extremely slow system that's permanently locked to 1.6GHz for that use. So, if you want to overclock, you must get at least a few programs that take anywhere near full advantage of overclocking - and use those programs frequently. (Web surfing and movie watching takes absolutely no advantage at all whatsoever of overclocking.) Otherwise, you'd just be wasting electricity with no corresponding increase in real-world performance.

With that said, for your intended use you'd be perfectly fine with an i3-2100 or an i5-2400 CPU on an H67 motherboard. If you do want to overclock, an i5-2500K plus a Z68 motherboard with DVI and/or HDMI outs onboard would be my recommended choice if you also want to use integrated graphics.
 
Thanks for feedback ...
So now, I've came to this ...
2500K
For mobo, should I pick up P67 or Z68? P67 and buy seperate graphics, or Z68 and mess with onboard ...
I'm thinking ASRock P67/Z68 Pro 3 or Extreme 4 ...

Any recommendations for graphic cards below $150?
 
Thanks for feedback ...
So now, I've came to this ...
2500K
For mobo, should I pick up P67 or Z68? P67 and buy seperate graphics, or Z68 and mess with onboard ...
I'm thinking ASRock P67/Z68 Pro 3 or Extreme 4 ...

Any recommendations for graphic cards below $150?
 
I don't game much ... but I do occasionally ...
like Madden, FIFA, Counter Strike, etc.
I'm old (28 yrs old), not into new games ... only games that interest me, or from back in the days ...
I just overclock coz I want to squeeze every drop of juice out of the system for the least money ...
I want good graphics, but not the best in the market ... If you ask me, I'm willing to spend up to $150USD on a card ... but nothing more ...
Integrated graphics? I might consider ... but I also wish to have Aero running ... my previous setup on E6300 can't run Aero ... and none of my laptops do so ... I don't need the latest graphics, but I just hope I can play some basic games ... and mostly watch HD movies ...
I'm considering if I should go Athlon II X3, which are Phenoms? Or i5 2500k / i7 2600k ... I just want a system where I can overclock to the max, and last me a good 4-5 years ... which my E6300 served me great ...
If I need the best system, I can afford up to $2000, but is it worth it? I believe somewhere around $600 overclocked to max, can get me the perfect equilibrium, balance in performance for CPU and Graphics.
 
dont forget that an overclocked CPU also uses more power, more power means more electricity bills to pay. so even if your squeezing every drop of juice out of your system for the least money, in the long run your paying more in electricity. BUT, I see benchmarks of how power efficient the new Sandy bridges are, if you worry about electricity then go for the sandys
 
Intel is far and away the performance king right now. That said, almost any modern CPU will do the tasks you've specified well. However, if you want it to last as long as possible, and just in general enjoy overclocking your system, get the Core i5-2500k and for now, use the integrated graphics. You mentioned you don't play modern games, and if you read this review (which goes over the CPU and GPU performance of the Core i5-2500k) you'll see that you can run fairly new games on it with acceptable frame rates. Aero will not be a problem.

And to the rest of you, isn't this [H]ard|Forum or did I stumble into a place where people aren't allowed to overclock for fun?
 
For a GPU under $150 the Radeon 5770/6770 often comes up (usually around $110 to $120.) Also the Radeon 6850 is usually right around $150 before mail in rebates. The GeForce GTX 460 can be found around $150 too. Lower than the 5770 and things start to drop off very quickly. The 5770 is about 1.6 times faster than the 5670, for example. (Also, the 5770 and 6770 are the same card -- the 6770 has a slightly newer BIOS on the card, but they perform the same.)
 
So a 5670 at $80 loses to 5770 at $130 ... in terms of performance/dollar ?
 
For mobo, should I pick up P67 or Z68? P67 and buy seperate graphics, or Z68 and mess with onboard ...
I'm thinking ASRock P67/Z68 Pro 3 or Extreme 4 ...
 
For mobo, should I pick up P67 or Z68? P67 and buy seperate graphics, or Z68 and mess with onboard ...
Up to you: Onboard video would meet your needs but a dedicated video card would allow higher settings in newer games. Though do note that you can always had a video card to a Z68 mobo. In addition, having the onboard video does help troubleshooting should you have an issue with a dedicated video card later on. Finally, a decent Z68 mobo doesn't cost that much more than a decent P67 mobo.

I'm thinking ASRock P67/Z68 Pro 3 or Extreme 4 ...
Not worth getting. Only has a one year warranty if you're outside of Europe. Really poor choice considering that similar priced/featured mobos have three year warranties.I'd look at Gigabyte, MSI, or Asus for Z68 mobos.
 
Here in Malaysia, ASRock gets 2 Years + 1 Year (Online Registration) = 3 Years Total Warranty ...

How about this motherboard:
MSI P67A-C45 B3 <--- goes for $100
GD55 $135
GF65 $145

And so far, I can't find Z68 from MSI, at least not here in Malaysia.

Gigabyte which model? Z68 are expensive ... P67 also more expensive than the MSI I mentioned above ... H67 are cheaper though ...

Asus motherboards are rocket sky high in terms of price ...

I just want basic features ... No SLI/Crossfire ... just don't see the value behind it ...
 
Here in Malaysia, ASRock gets 2 Years + 1 Year (Online Registration) = 3 Years Total Warranty ...

How about this motherboard:
MSI P67A-C45 B3 <--- goes for $100
GD55 $135
GF65 $145

Oh in that case, AsRock is a fine choice then. Though that MSI C45 mobo is good enough for your stated needs.
 
Sorry I edited my earlier post you might have missed it.

And so far, I can't find Z68 from MSI, at least not here in Malaysia.

Gigabyte which model? Z68 are expensive ... P67 also more expensive than the MSI I mentioned above ... H67 are cheaper though ...

Asus motherboards are rocket sky high in terms of price ...

I just want basic features ... No SLI/Crossfire ... just don't see the value behind it ...

What's your comments above those I mentioned above? MSI C45 will overclock well?
 
What I've got up till now.

CPU: i5 2500k $220
HSF: Cooler Master 212+ $30
MOBO: Undecided Approx $120-$150
RAM: What do you recommend?
PSU/CASING: $80-120
HDD: Intel SDD 64GB (Already own, brand new)
GPU: Undecided Yet
MONITOR: 52in LED 1080p (Already own)

Damn man ... from $600 now up to $800? :(
 
You could always grab a used i3 530,540,550 and mobo combo for under 180. Heck you could probably find new for around that price. It will do 4Ghz with ease around 1.27+/-. If you want to go higher, it will do so. Short of using high settings in x264 and archiving and a couple games, it will cut through most things and multiple things at the same time with ease.
 
Now, RAM? 8GB what would you guys recommend?
How about power supply? Value for money 500-650W? Reliable?
What's better, Titan Fenrir, Cooler Master 212+, Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme, or ?
 
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Now, RAM? 8GB what would you guys recommend?
G.Skill usually has the best bang for the buck value. Corsair, Kingston, and Mushkin are good choices as well. Just make sure that the RAM is rated at DDR3 1333 and 1.5V and you'll be set. Remember that DDR3 1600 RAM offers little to no real world performance increase over DDR3 1333 RAM. So don't spend the extra cash for it.
How about power supply? Value for money 500-650W? Reliable?
What video card are you planning on using?
What's better, Titan Fenrir, Cooler Master 212+, Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme, or ?

The Hyper 212+ is usually the better bang for the buck value.
 
I can't get G.Skill here in Malaysia, but I can ask my friend to buy me some. The 1600 GSkill RipJaw going for $49 2x4GB ... thinking of buying 16GB total ... for $100 ... how do they fair ?

Video card maybe 5770 ...
 
I can't get G.Skill here in Malaysia, but I can ask my friend to buy me some. The 1600 GSkill RipJaw going for $49 2x4GB ... thinking of buying 16GB total ... for $100 ... how do they fair ?

It's a good deal.
Video card maybe 5770 ...

Decent enough choice for a person who doesn't game that much.
 
If G.Skill isn't available where you are, don't be afraid to look at Corsair, Kingston, Crucial/Micron, Samsung, or Mushkin. Just find the best bang for the buck DDR3 1333 MHz 1.5V CL9 or lower.
 
he really doesn't need 16 gigs of ram.. There are several articles that show most people only need around 4 gigs, and 6 would be plenty for normal and even gaming tasks.
 
he really doesn't need 16 gigs of ram.. There are several articles that show most people only need around 4 gigs, and 6 would be plenty for normal and even gaming tasks.

You can't have too much RAM and at the prices of RAM right now if you can afford it, it wont hurt. RAM prices will not stay this low forever.
 
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