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Borderlands 4

MavericK said:
I have mixed feelings on this, because I'm unlikely to go back and play a game (unless it ends up being amazing) years down the line when hardware capable of running it at max settings finally comes along (if at all).

I'd be more happy with games at max settings pushing high-end hardware that is available when the game is released. Why would I want to wait years to play a game at the "ideal" setting?
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For me it’s because I want companies to keep pushing hardware further and further. When we get stagnant, we get crap upgrades. Remember how meh the 5000 series is other than the 5090?

Keep pushing technology imo. I’m glad bl4 is pushing hardware. That’s what I want to see.
 
MavericK said:
I have mixed feelings on this, because I'm unlikely to go back and play a game (unless it ends up being amazing) years down the line when hardware capable of running it at max settings finally comes along (if at all).

I'd be more happy with games at max settings pushing high-end hardware that is available when the game is released. Why would I want to wait years to play a game at the "ideal" setting?
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That's me. I'm not going to be playing Borderlands 4 in 3-4 years. I want to play it now. While the community is thriving. I'm a believer that whatever the elite cards are at the moment should be able to max out games at launch. If the dev wants to magically make the game look better in several years they can add in some new shit then.
 
He really likes BL4, says is one of the better ones, but his main issue is the performance bugs that need to be ironed out, he makes it sound like if performance doesn't improve with patches this won't be a good game for most, but if they can fix and patch the performance to be smooth, he thinks this will be a very good looter shooter 8.5/10 or better;


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxq-lgDBhWU
 
I'm selling my favorite CS AK skin for the stupid super deluxe edition of this. Better be good!
 
Domingo said:
That's me. I'm not going to be playing Borderlands 4 in 3-4 years. I want to play it now. While the community is thriving. I'm a believer that whatever the elite cards are at the moment should be able to max out games at launch. If the dev wants to magically make the game look better in several years they can add in some new shit then.
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Then play on medium and pretend it's max settings.
 
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MavericK said:
I have mixed feelings on this, because I'm unlikely to go back and play a game (unless it ends up being amazing) years down the line when hardware capable of running it at max settings finally comes along (if at all).

I'd be more happy with games at max settings pushing high-end hardware that is available when the game is released. Why would I want to wait years to play a game at the "ideal" setting?
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See I just think "max" or "ultra" should just be dang near unplayable. It should always be a hurdle too high for current hardware. I don't want it artificially so, but those that grab the game next year (not everyone buys at launch) and with a 6080 card can enjoy a much more beautiful or faster version of the game.

If games don't make hardware push limits, no one is. But the game should be as beautiful and playable as can be for current hardware.

There was just always something fun about "oh I wonder what blahblahblah would look on turned all the way up on my new card?!"

I know the real reason it isn't done is probably so they can sell remasters 2 years later. And there probably isn't much value add for making a graphics setting tuned for next years card performance.
 
Yikes, that's not good. Sounds like the game has major performance issues. Isn't there a big patch due on release? And isn't it released Sept. 12th?
 
83 fps on 5090 in intro with Badass and FG. lol. The gunplay feels really shit and laggy at least in the beginning. I thought this would be the case but it is what it is. Can't complain too much at 40$ but anyone paying full price gonna have a bad time lol. I will try high settings and see if it improves things.
 
KickAssCop said:
83 fps on 5090 in intro with Badass and FG. lol. The gunplay feels really shit and laggy at least in the beginning. I thought this would be the case but it is what it is. Can't complain too much at 40$ but anyone paying full price gonna have a bad time lol. I will try high settings and see if it improves things.
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Ooof. Thats pretty bad. Are you at least using DLSS quality or Balanced?
 
Brackle said:
Ooof. Thats pretty bad. Are you at least using DLSS quality or Balanced?
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DLAA. Maybe I drop to Quality. It just feels laggy af. Gunplay is also not precise and coming from BF6 beta, COD BO6, just feels loose...
 
If you goto General Discussion it should be there at least last time I checked. Its a Tab on top.
 
Steam reviews and discussions are about as reliable as AI responses pulled from Reddit. People only post when they have something negative to say, otherwise they'd just be playing the game right now. It's not to say there aren't issues, but you can take a lot of that stuff with a grain of salt right now.
Even in my own reviews of games, if I recommend something I might see 1-2 people found this helpful. Not recommended? Suddenly it's like 25 people. It's the way of the internets.
 
Brackle said:
For me it’s because I want companies to keep pushing hardware further and further. When we get stagnant, we get crap upgrades. Remember how meh the 5000 series is other than the 5090?

Keep pushing technology imo. I’m glad bl4 is pushing hardware. That’s what I want to see.
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I don't see it working out like that. Nvidia has so much market share I don't see them trying to push hardware that much. They're more into AI currently. They'll keep releasing new cards to hold the market but the performance jump with the RTX 5*** were really not that good, except for the 5090. And games have become more demanding as of late, largely due to poor optimization. Nvidia is pushing DLSS and frame generation which is okay, but too many developers are using these as alternatives to optimizing their game.

If games become more demanding, I don't really see Nvidia shifting much. I think we're going to see lesser performance jumps, 20% or so, per generation now. Hopefully that doesn't happen long term but it does seem to be the case currently.
 
4k
Brackle said:
Ok, running maxed out at 4k, Balanced DLSS and FGx4. Getting around 150-170fps. Low latency as well. Seems very smooth for me so far.
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Same, 4k, Balanced DLSS, everything else maxed at 120fps stable on PC1 in my sig.

Haven't played on my 4080S yet but I'm guessing it'll probably be around 90fps stable with everything else the same.

I've never been a huge fan of BL's cell shading but I think BL4 looks great. The animation and lighting really pulls everything together quite nicely. My biggest complaint is, as KickAssCop mentioned, the floaty controls. It's not enough to ruin the game for me as I'm enjoying it more than all the previous iterations but I still hope they tighten things up a bit in that regard.

EDIT: Haven't experienced any noticeable bugs, hitches or stuttering and it hasn't crashed on me. The beginning intro ran at 80fps for me and other cutscenes seem to be locked at 30fps.
 
performance for me is weird....and I think its the game and not my machine.

I was maxing FPS at 165 throughout the entire first part. once i was on the beach after the claptrap meet-n-greet. the game pegged at like 55fps and that was even just standing in a corner looking at the ground. Like the cinematic screwed it all up. The cinematics being capped at 30fps is also AWFUL.

I'm max graphics, 1440p, no motion blur and native, none of that TLSS, DLSS, garbage.

the mouse sensitivty is outrageous also. even at a low DPI on my mouse I had to set the setting in the game to like .50 for everything and its still borderline crazy fast.
 
Domingo said:
Steam reviews and discussions are about as reliable as AI responses pulled from Reddit. People only post when they have something negative to say, otherwise they'd just be playing the game right now. It's not to say there aren't issues, but you can take a lot of that stuff with a grain of salt right now.
Even in my own reviews of games, if I recommend something I might see 1-2 people found this helpful. Not recommended? Suddenly it's like 25 people. It's the way of the internets.
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The last few high profile games I played on or near launch were full of grievance hunting claptrap on steam reviews and forum threads, yet played fine or mostly fine for me. Anecdotal, but gotta decide for yourself before putting too much stock into launch reviews that always seem to contain a permanent subset of unhappy people committed to being unhappy.

A game's bound to have technical issues at launch, but there's also usually no appetite for measured discussion on it - every little thing needs to fall into an extreme and absolute ToTaLLy bRoKeN, with no in-between.
 
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Ok it runs fine now. Max everything, DLSS Q, FG 2X, 4K. About 120-130 fps most places. Hit the beach and going to clear out a camp for a glider. Playing as Vex.
I guess need to wait to get better guns and powers.

Also all Borderpants games look the same to me. 👀
 
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What’s the dl size? Doubt I can get it done in this stupid hotel..
 
Comixbooks said:
65.5 Gigabyte Download was expecting closer to 90 something must be compressed good.
Unless they just wanted that 100 Gig size for future expansions.
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Have you actually looked at those art assets? Are we talking about the same game?

I'm surprised it's as large as 65.5GB. Must be because of the purportedly large game world, because it sure as shit ain't because of those art assets.
 
Zorachus said:
Yikes, that's not good. Sounds like the game has major performance issues. Isn't there a big patch due on release? And isn't it released Sept. 12th?
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piratepress said:
Looks like there's already a Day 1 patch planned for it:
https://www.ign.com/articles/border...t-dont-expect-miracles-from-older-pc-hardware
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polonyc2 said:
sounds like he's preparing people ahead of time for performance issues
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at least Pitchford warned everyone ahead of time ;)
 
Borderlands 4 Is the Biggest Borderlands Ever on Steam Just an Hour After Launch

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pendragon1 said:
isnt this the first to launch on steam?
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No. Borderlands 3 was just an anomaly because it didn't launch on Steam.

One could argue that in 2009 and 2012 for BL1 and BL2 respectively, Steam was much younger and the userbase was obviously a fraction of today, so no shit it's gangbusters in 2025. One could also argue that a charcuterie board is really just an adult sized Lunchable - no one's fooling anyone, unearned dignity. But then eventually you're arguing all the time, about anything.
 
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