Biggest Pay Gap In America: Computer Programmers

[Stereodude]

The beauty of Glass Door is you can post that stuff anonymously so that your co-workers can find out without exposing yourself in anyway.

That's not necessarily true. If you answered the survey info and work at a small office it's very identifiable. I was tempted to leave a scathing review of the CEO at my last job there. I looked at the first few questions and said nevermind. The job function and office location would narrow it down to like 4 people and they know which was is the outspoken one.

 

[raz-0]

Glassdoor is not just ads. You can go there right now and post anonymously about the company you're at. And despite what your quote says, lower level people can't post and at my company, people that work in stores post as much (possibly more) than those working in the offices.

Except GLASS DOOR says their methodology was looking at online job sites. Which sounds like they completely made some statistically unsound shit up.

They go on to refer to other research that looked at IT overall, and found that it was at ~5.9% pay disrcepency, which is withing th 5-7% multiple studies come up with repeatedly from different sources for all jobs in the US.

 

[Ducman69]

Societal expectations and pressures, women are discouraged to act out like that.

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You don't DEMAND a raise, that's stupid. You ask your boss during a review what improvements or benchmarks would demonstrate increased value on my part to the company. When you achieve those goals and can demonstrate hitting those marks, you can say I have now raised my value and profits generated for the company, and would like my pay adjusted accordingly. You get paid more when you are worth more. Business isn't a charity, its about making money.

People that aren't confident, usually with reason, don't ask for raises especially when they suspect they are the lowest performers on their team, and may have only been hired in the first place out of diversity lawsuit concerns.

 

[Semantics]

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You don't DEMAND a raise, that's stupid. You ask your boss during a review what improvements or benchmarks would demonstrate increased value on my part to the company. When you achieve those goals and can demonstrate hitting those marks, you can say I have now raised my value and profits generated for the company, and would like my pay adjusted accordingly. You get paid more when you are worth more. Business isn't a charity, its about making money.

People that aren't confident, usually with reason, don't ask for raises especially when they suspect they are the lowest performers on their team, and may have only been hired in the first place out of diversity lawsuit concerns.

You just said extra words but in the end you demanded a raise, there is a difference between asking and actually applying pressure on management to take your requests seriously. Not all management climates are what i would say filled with people who actually know how to talk with employees like an employer. To each their own, in the end you do have prove your worth and make them see it accordingly, not just so ask in turn. With that, even though men ask for raises more often women are discouraged from doing so.

Or did you forget Microsoft's CEO slip up on telling women they shouldn't ask for raises but have faith in the system?

 

[Jagger100]

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You don't DEMAND a raise, that's stupid. You ask your boss during a review what improvements or benchmarks would demonstrate increased value on my part to the company. When you achieve those goals and can demonstrate hitting those marks, you can say I have now raised my value and profits generated for the company, and would like my pay adjusted accordingly. You get paid more when you are worth more. Business isn't a charity, its about making money.

People that aren't confident, usually with reason, don't ask for raises especially when they suspect they are the lowest performers on their team, and may have only been hired in the first place out of diversity lawsuit concerns.

This might work in a small company and/or in good times and get you a decent raise. For a good raise In a large company, your worth will be weighed against your likelihood to quit if you don't get a good raise. HR department's job is to get the most in terms of employees for the least output to those employees and will exploit loyalty (misguidedly sticking with a company) for all its worth.