Best Wireless Headset for Gaming?

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  1. Kyle_Bennett

    Kyle_Bennett El Chingón Staff Member

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    Why it is not on the main page the new iCue does it better. Click settings then select you device.
     
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    Thanks I found it, its a tiny little icon on the settings page.
     
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    I have the wired version of the Arctis Pro. I would highly recommend it as well as the wireless version just based on build quality and the fact that you can hot swap batteries to keep going. That was always my problem with the A50 as well as the upcoming Audeze. Let's say you just game for awhile or you forget to put it back on the charging stand. Now you have to wire in and charge it for a bit versus just popping in a new battery.
     
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    Can you not just plug in a cord for a couple of game-hours like I do with my XBox controller? I wonder what the substantive difference is between my Sennheisers which will go 22 hrs against one of the main headset brands which seem to do half that at best?
     
  6. Kyle_Bennett

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    Never got word back, and considering these are currently out of stock, I just bought a pair direct. These have a 30 day return so I feel pretty safe.
     
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  7. Kyle_Bennett

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    Asked for a review sample.
     
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    The Audeze guys are awesome, took me LCD3 in to their HQ for a little repair and they dealed with me directly and even gave me a cool t-shirt :headphone:
     
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    I just purchased the Audeze Mobius, I have not got them in yet but have heard great things from a few people who have heard them through demos. If you haven't checked them out, I would suggest you take a look.
     
  10. Kyle_Bennett

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    I bought a set as well. No shipment yet.
     
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    Well the Corsair Void Pro is returned, just going back to my old wired HD598's. The continuous problems with Discord make it a total no-go. The guy at Best Buy even warned me that people return the Corsair units constantly because of problems with Discord and I brushed him off, should have listened.
     
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  12. Kyle_Bennett

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    Could you be more specific as to what the issues were? I just used mine on Discord for 5 hours
     
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    Constantly losing sound and mic in Discord only, probably every 15-20 minutes. Games or other sounds continued to work and I could use in game voice just fine, but the only solution was to close out Discord and restart the headset every couple of minutes. When it got to the point where I was spending more time dicking with the headset than playing a game in my limited down time I got rid of it. There was no way to know you had a problem unless you use the overlay and see the people lighting up as they talk but not hearing anything.

    To be fair, I was warned. Like I said, it did exactly what the guy at best buy said people were returning them for exactly as he explained it when I picked it up (which I assumed was user error at the time since big box store employees generally say a lot of stuff to sell you a more expensive item). I don't know if its a problem with the discord app itself or the Corsair software but I got tired of it real quick and none of the "solutions" I could find worked.
     
  14. Kyle_Bennett

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    Interesting. Never heard of this before. I have two Void headsets that we use here in my house for Discord all the time and have never seen an issue. I have to wonder if it is not a Discord issue. I know between my daughter and I, we literally have hundreds of hours on ours in Discord specifically.

    Have you updated the firmware on the headset? Do you run the Corsair software that controls the headset while using it?
     
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    Mine had the newest firmware, and the software was always running in the task bar so I could check battery levels. There were a pile of threads about it on the Corsair website when I checked, something is going on between the two programs I believe. Not sure what other factors might be a problem with it, it acted the same on both my 8700k/V56 machine and my 1800X/RX570 one as well. Both Windows 10 with the current build. (I did make sure all 50,000 of the AMD HDMI audio devices are disabled on each one).

    The other small issue I had with it was the headset itself is fairly heavy, but I guess thats to be expected with the batteries in there. It hurt my ears after a few hours. But otherwise it was comfortable and the mic performance was very good, sound was good as well and I liked the surround setting. I personally vastly prefer to use teamspeak, I hate all the cluttered crap in Discord but everyone I know uses it so I had to switch over.
     
  16. Kyle_Bennett

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    Just got this about the Audeze Mobius...

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    booo! But good to see dedication to quality and listening to customer feedback.
     
  18. IdiotInCharge

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    I'll probably be considering them after general retail availability, and while their setback is a bit disappointing, it's quite obvious that Audeze is working to make a solid entrance.
     
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    In case anyone is wondering, the Mobius uses Waves Nx for its surround algorithm. You can try it for free for 30 days and purchase a Waves Nx license separately, and use it on any headphone you want, including any bluetooth headphone (or bluetooth dongle that you use to make a wired headphone wireless...hint) for $10, as it simply pretends to be a 7.1 sound card in Windows. The tracker can also be purchased separately for $99, if you want that functionality.

    While we are at it, there are a lot of headphone independent hardware/software solutions that let you use any headphone. E.g. Out of Your Head software ($24.95 for the generic 7.1 HRTF, free 7 day trial) which in my opinion is better than Waves at rear cues (OOYH uses HRTF tech from the Smyth Realiser A8). External solutions include the Creative the X7 and E5 DAC/Amp combos that offer SBX surround, which is a very capable surround algorithm, and the X7 is compatible with the PS4 and Xbox which output Dolby Digital. Sennheiser's GSX1000 is also a popular 7.1 DAC/Amp. I am not familiar with internal soundcards but I am sure there are internal equivalents. All of those options are in my opinion superior to Dolby Headphone, which is I believe what the G933 uses.

    I second Mad Lust Envy's thread over at head-fi for headphone recommendations. The original post is old but many of those cans are still for sale, or their updated models are, and the wealth of info in that thread for virtual surround gaming is pretty great.
     
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    Razer have their own version too. There are some good youtube video's which show the difference between the different systems. I confess that I have difficulty discerning he difference between them for the most part. I like that the voices move when the 'viewer' turns their head and it gives you additional sense of immersion but whether one sounds brighter than the other or is more flat etc is hard to do when you're not familiar with the source. easy to hear extra detail in a music track, for example, than in a repeated cut scene in a game unless one of those systems is head and shoulders above the others. I'm not sure they are.
     
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    I just tried the OOYH and it's pretty good but lacks in what is the fundamental flaw of all head gear: Front imaging. It opens up the sound somewhat but still can't create an image like good speakers can.
     
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    Damn, and I was thinking about trying it. I've been using the Razer software since it gets me an easy inline equalizer.

    What cans are you using with it?
     
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    I tested it with my Bose QC20 earbuds and my laptop. OOYH doesn't have head tracking which is a must to really fool the brain. It wasn't bad, it was very spacious for a headphone. You can try it for free at their website...
     
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    Thanks, I just might. I'll be using my Focal Elex and Sony MDR-Z7 cans.
     
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    I'm more of a rear cues person myself and for that OOYH was great. I did not notice a front imaging deficiency, I did notice that I had to seriously pump up the volume thought to get anything loud. And the software is sort of buggy and looks kind of dated. I think it's a one man operation.

    Since it is free no reason not to try it, other than wasted time.But, it is also dependent on luck of the draw since the demo (and all of the other presets) are a generic HRTF. I.e. basically someone else's head and ears, which may or may not be close to another users. This is the "ask 10 different people get 10 different answers" problem with all non-customized VSS solutions. I believe Darin (creator of the software) will take a personal measurement, if you have one, and do a custom preset for you (for $150!).

    Also give Waves Nx a try, as you can purchase a head tracker for that software (and it is also a free demo).
     
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  26. Kyle_Bennett

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    i had this problem as well and it's usually related to going in and out of connection range with the mic boom down still since the headset turns the mic off to save battery while out of range.. the work around was that if you went out of range with the headset just put mic boom up while out of range and/or just lift it up and down when you get back in range and works perfectly fine after. this isn't specific to discord. once i figured that out after the second day of owning them i've never had an issue since.
     
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    That wasn't the problem at all, I never moved and all other audio including teamspeak worked fine. This issue is specific to the Corsair software and dates back to 2015 if their forums are anything to go by. Supposedly "been fixed" several times now.
     
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    dunno, never had a problem on the software side other than the previous version having ad's telling me to buy keyboards or mice or headsets i didn't want.. ever since they moved everything over to iCue a couple months ago it's way cleaner and much easier to use now.
     
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    I only have Corsair RAM (with white LED strips) and Corsair AIO, and I will say that iCUE has been improving rapidly over the last six months or so.
     
  31. Riccochet

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    I'm inclined to believe it is an issue with Discord and not a specific headset. I still use my G930's as well as my new G933's. I've experienced this issue with both from time to time. Just to test if maybe it was the headsets I switched to a set of Sony MDR-V6 studio cans with a Shure PG58 mic going through a Numark mixer. Sure enough I've had instances where I can't hear people, or they can't hear me. Where it gets really strange is sometimes it's only certain people I can't hear, or certain people that can't hear me. People I play PUBG with have also experienced this issue. One friend it got so bad he had to reinstall Windows. I'm by no means implying that Discord is the lone culprit, as I think certain software, like Corsair Utility Engine and Logitech Gaming Software, most likely also play a role.

    We get what we pay for. :)
     
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    Side note: I hate Discord. (too bad my Neverwinter Online guild uses it -- at least they use text chat more often, and Discord is optional, not mandatory)

    At least TeamSpeak offers multiple options to fix stuff ... you can't really troubleshoot Discord w/o options to do so ...

    My mic works just fine on everything else except Discord ... and I've gone through a ton of fixes. I can hear just fine, but am not being heard by others (despite positive "green light").
     
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    I can recommend the steelseries arctis 7 headphones. I'm on my second set though since the USB charging port stopped working after a year and a half or so, so I'd suggest buying a warranty for it. The only thing I wish the headphones had is a play/stop button, since I like to move about my place while listening to things. The sound quality is solid though for the price, and I would also recommend the leather cups you can purchase separately from steelseries for $15 since they provide a bit more sound isolation and are easier to clean. I've been very happy with them.
     
  34. Kyle_Bennett

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    Very nice!

    Waiting for your impressions- actually a bit excited to see what you think about closed planars when you get them :).
     
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    Although I'm interested in seeing the Hardforum take on matters some of the reviews I have seen make me think that these are not going to be the cans for me. Comments around the quality of the headband, the rubberised coating, and difficulty connecting to consoles etc mean that I think I'm going to plump for the Steelseries Arctis pro Wireless.

    I have my Xbox One plugged into the PC monitor so having that and the PC each plugged into the gamedac allows me to switch seamlessly between the two devices. With the Mobius I could BT to the PC but would still need to plug a cable into the Xbox controller which is all very silly. Although it's a PITA to connect the steelseries for both game noise and chat, it is at least wireless. The Steelseries also has that brilliant dual battery arrangement.

    Whether I really will see a night-and-day audio benefit using Mobius I just don't know and perhaps it doesn't matter. it's very easy to throw some additional cash and get the Mobius but I leave behind a fully wireless solution for something which I may get some benefit from. I don't game professionally, and have coped with my Corsairs for some years now, so anything would be an upgrade.
     
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    So a week in and I'm really enjoying the Pro Wireless. It's hooked up to my PC by USB and Xbox by Optical, and my phone by Bluetooth. It really can do everything. The comfort is way better than my old corsairs and are a whole lot better at isolation too - once the headphones are on, no sound leaks at normal levels.

    Sound quality wise they're competent. They won't blow you away but neither does it truly feel like a £300 headset. Some of the money clearly goes to the connector box and spare hot-swap battery (a wonderful feature) so I wasn't expecting them to knock me out but I've yet to play an FPS yet so they might yet impress - Forza Horizon 4 and Assassins Creed Origins, currently, and in each case they're way better than what I used before.
     
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    What do you think, Kyle?
     
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    I had the arctis pro wireless headset but returned them due to subpar sound quality when compared to my astro a50 set. I really wanted them to work out because I love the battery charge and bluetooth features on it.