Best Buy WD 10TB External $160

[SamirD]

My point was that you can't read it on *any* OS without USB (well technically you can, but it requires some guru level tricks).

Are you referring to some sort of encryption or just the 'translation' that's going on by the case?

 

[cybrnook]

I got 10 x 10TB's recently, and they all are as follows:

Model family: WDC HGST Ultrastar He10
Device model: WDC WD100EMAZ-00WJTA0
Serial number: <EDITED OUT>
LU WWN device id: 5 000cca 267d2b9f8
Firmware version: 83.H0A83
User capacity: 10,000,831,348,736 bytes [10.0 TB]
Sector sizes: 512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
Rotation rate: 5400 rpm
Form factor: 3.5 inches
Device: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA version: ACS-2, ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4
SATA version: SATA 3.2, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
Local time: Fri Jun 21 17:13:37 2019 EDT
SMART support: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support: Enabled
SMART overall-health: Passe

HGST Ultrastar HE10 on Amazon is a $330 drive.

 

[Luke M]

Are you referring to some sort of encryption or just the 'translation' that's going on by the case?

In "XP" mode the USB adapter presents the drive as a 4K sector drive. But as far as the SATA interface is concerned, it's a 512 byte drive. Removed from the USB adapter, the 4K->512 translation is missing, which makes the partition table nonsense.

 

[SamirD]

In "XP" mode the USB adapter presents the drive as a 4K sector drive. But as far as the SATA interface is concerned, it's a 512 byte drive. Removed from the USB adapter, the 4K->512 translation is missing, which makes the partition table nonsense.

Gotcha, yeah that's the same thing I was referring to.

 

[SamirD]

I got 10 x 10TB's recently, and they all are as follows:

Model family: WDC HGST Ultrastar He10
Device model: WDC WD100EMAZ-00WJTA0
Serial number: <EDITED OUT>
LU WWN device id: 5 000cca 267d2b9f8
Firmware version: 83.H0A83
User capacity: 10,000,831,348,736 bytes [10.0 TB]
Sector sizes: 512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
Rotation rate: 5400 rpm
Form factor: 3.5 inches
Device: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA version: ACS-2, ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4
SATA version: SATA 3.2, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
Local time: Fri Jun 21 17:13:37 2019 EDT
SMART support: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support: Enabled
SMART overall-health: Passe

HGST Ultrastar HE10 on Amazon is a $330 drive.

These are NOT the same HE10s that you find for sale retail because those drives are 7200rpm and 5yr warranty drives. Seems like the drives in these enclosures failed some qc tests and were slowed down to 5400rpm and with a reduced warranty to still make them sellable. You find a lot of HE10s refurbished so I think this was WD/HGST's 'growing pains' series of drives. Great cheap backups, but I wouldn't rely on them too heavily, and certainly not like the true enterprise version.

It is much closer to the WD 5400rpm Red:
https://www.servethehome.com/wd-wd100emaz-easystore-10tb-external-backup-drive-review/

 

[Burticus]

Part of me wants to hook one of these up to xbox/ps4 and download.... EVERYTHING

I wonder if I could fill up a 10tb downloading every single game I've backlogged from PS+ and all of the games I have bought outright.

Of course in reality I know this would take an eternity. PSN is so f*cking slow as it is, it took me an entire day to download Spiderman. And I have 100mb fios.

edit - hmm, google says PS4 max is 8tb on current FW 4.5, xbox 1 x goes up to 16tb for some reason (neat trick since they don't exist yet)

 

[MavericK]

Got mine yesterday, just using it to back up all the storage drives in my HTPC.

 

[cdoublejj]

finally tested mine, both tested good, need to shuck them now.

These are NOT the same HE10s that you find for sale retail because those drives are 7200rpm and 5yr warranty drives. Seems like the drives in these enclosures failed some qc tests and were slowed down to 5400rpm and with a reduced warranty to still make them sellable. You find a lot of HE10s refurbished so I think this was WD/HGST's 'growing pains' series of drives. Great cheap backups, but I wouldn't rely on them too heavily, and certainly not like the true enterprise version.

It is much closer to the WD 5400rpm Red:
https://www.servethehome.com/wd-wd100emaz-easystore-10tb-external-backup-drive-review/

so you wouldn't put 2 of these in a 4 drive drobo? (can loose 1 drive and still keep ticking)

 

[Joust]

finally tested mine, both tested good, need to shuck them now.



so you wouldn't put 2 of these in a 4 drive drobo? (can loose 1 drive and still keep ticking)

Redundancy doesn't cure everything, but for me, it sure mitigates the risks. I use two parity drives, myself, but even with one you've greatly reduced your risk exposure.

Always remember: RAID is not backup. Data loss can range from inconvenience to ruinous. Depends, I suppose, on what you're dealing with.

 

[cdoublejj]

yeah good point this data is already partially back up in other places (eventually fully). they these drives are about normal performance of other drives. i wonder how many MB/s i can expect. Maybe 65MBs to 150MBs?

 

[cybrnook]

I got these in my unraid server (10 TB drives) , and I am seeing writes in the 200MB/s range. I am quite pleasantly surprised, as that's faster than the 165MB/s I used to get from my 4TB 7200 drives they replaced.

 

[drescherjm]

Maybe 65MBs to 150MBs?

Large file sequential transfers should be around 200MB/s on the outer tracks and about 1/2 that on the inner slowest tracks.

 

[SamirD]

finally tested mine, both tested good, need to shuck them now.
so you wouldn't put 2 of these in a 4 drive drobo? (can loose 1 drive and still keep ticking)

Small world--I just finished h2testw on both of mine.

You could put them in the drobo, but what if both fail? If you've got a solid backup, then definitely. But if you're relying on one to stay alive when the other died, I think you'd be gambling a bit. Two drives in the same environment that probably came from similar batches I would expect to have similar failures, so if one goes, the second with the good data has got a solid 50/50 chance of failing before you can get the other drive replaced and rebuilt. This is why raid is never a good backup in itself.

 

[SamirD]

yeah good point this data is already partially back up in other places (eventually fully). they these drives are about normal performance of other drives. i wonder how many MB/s i can expect. Maybe 65MBs to 150MBs?

In h2testw I was seeing writes as high as 90MB/s with most 70MB+/s and reads at 135MB+/s.

This was under win 7 on an hp 8760w laptop with the drive connected via usb3, partitioned into 2tb partitions, and each partition formatted fat32. The drive was also formatted with 4096 byte sectors using a WD tool to allow xp to see it completely.

Hope this helps.

 

[mrpickem]

I'm assuming these are white label reds

 

[Spartacus09]

Correct

 

[terry gilpin]

WD Elements 8TB External USB 3.0 Hard Drive. $124.99 with digital coupon. I decided to get in one last order from newegg since they start charging sales tax on July 1.

https://www.newegg.com/black-wd-elements-8tb/p/N82E16822234349

 

[Zepher]

I just shucked my 10TB Eeaystore the other night, been using it as USB for the past 7 months.
The Easystore enclosure is larger and more rigid than the Elements and you can put other drives in the Easystore case. The Elements case uses formed fitted rubber pads for the corners to mount the drive and they don't fit onto normal drives.
I shucked a couple of 8TB Elements recently and was going to toss a 2TB Green into one of the enclosures and the rubber pads didn't fit onto the drive.

 

[cdoublejj]

https://www.amazon.com/10TB-Element...t_DLandingS_PC_40a164aa_36&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

 

[Spartacus09]

https://www.amazon.com/10TB-Element...t_DLandingS_PC_40a164aa_36&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Not bad, are those the same easystore WD whites?

 

[SamirD]

On another forum someone posted that this deal is back again if you login and see the updated price.

 

[drescherjm]

I see now $159.99 at BB, $195.00 at Amazon.

 

[nilepez]

I wish I'd bought 2 or 3 less 8TB drives. I've got 2 that are in my NAS waiting to be pushed in and 10TB > 8TB. Oh well, hopefully that 16TB will last till there's an even larger drive selling for an even cheaper price

 

[drescherjm]

I still have not unboxed the 10TB I bought from Amazon when it was $155. I do eventually need an additional 10TB if I am to move to 10TB parity drives and move the two 8TB external parity drives to internal data drives on my SnapRAID setup. No hurries because I am not that near filling my current setup.