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Best "backup" or "cloud" software??

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QwertyJuan

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I have looked over the options and I can't decide. I can go with something like Skydrive and put EVERYTHING in my Skydrive instead of "My Music" or "My Documents", then I'd be able to sync to multiple computers, or Google Drive and accomplish the same thing. Both sould sync and function as a backup at the same time.

HOWEVER.... they only "backup/sync" ONE folder. SugarSync on the other hand does whatever I want it to, BUT it costs an arm and a leg.

Another other ideas guys?
 
You can add folders to Skydrive. I was just playing around with their new app yesterday. It just installs a new folder into your User folder (on Vista/7). Inside that you can create as many folders as you like.

Another option is a program called Syncplicity which allows you to backup your pictures, documents, etc., but also add custom folders. The free version is limited to 2GB though.
 
I realize I can "create" as many as I want... what I couldn't seem to do what SugarSync does... add any folder at any location on any drive on my computer.
 
I pay for SugarSync and am very happy with its service. Well worth the price, in my opinion.
 
I'm pretty happy with my free 25 gigs on SkyDrive, but I do have to keep everything in one folder.
 
FWIW, I did my own little review of the popular Carbonite and Mozy. I know you seem to be leaning toward the more basic cloud-storage options, but here's my findings on the two backup-specific ones:

Mozy was a no-go, because buried in their TOS was the nice little gem: you can only backup/restore from a single, uniquely identified machine. The effect here is that if the host ID changes, either because you replace the mobo or replace the whole machine, it's considered a new computer and you have to either pay for a new account or you can't restore your files. It gets worse, because if you have to restore files to another machine (perhaps because the old one was RMA'd entirely), you can't do that either because it's considered to be a different computer than what is registered to you account.

Carbonite is nice in theory, but the client sucks. It consumed like 100m constantly, and the CPU usage was abnormally high even when not syncing changes. The sync service was also really stupid, because it failed to handle files which are constantly updated by running programs. Firefox uses a cache file, and Carbonite was continually uploading this file even as it was changing. It was pegging my network connection and doing essentially nothing. It got so bad I had to kill it.

Dropbox is nice if you can get the space; I use it as a manual backup for important stuff. Security isn't so hot, so encryption is a must for anything valuable. Google I'm very wary of, because their TOS leads me to believe everything you upload is searchable and indexable, so privacy is a big issue.
 
I don't want tp go with SugarSync but I may have to :(

It looks like the best out there, but soooo expensive compared to the options.
 
Why not Crashplan. Its really very nice and they have a family plan that will let you do unlimited backups for like 120$ a year for every computer in your house. Also, the client will allow backups to other computers and external storage as well. They have clients for linux, windows, mac and some flavors of unix as well as clients for IOS, Android and Windows Phone 7. I would check it out if you need a good offsite DR product as I was a former mozy user... I am much happier with crashplan!
 
pingjockey said:
Why not Crashplan. Its really very nice and they have a family plan that will let you do unlimited backups for like 120$ a year for every computer in your house. Also, the client will allow backups to other computers and external storage as well. They have clients for linux, windows, mac and some flavors of unix as well as clients for IOS, Android and Windows Phone 7. I would check it out if you need a good offsite DR product as I was a former mozy user... I am much happier with crashplan!
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I actually looked at that.... a while back. I think you may have convinced me! :)
 
Silverpike said:
Mozy was a no-go, because buried in their TOS was the nice little gem: you can only backup/restore from a single, uniquely identified machine. The effect here is that if the host ID changes, either because you replace the mobo or replace the whole machine, it's considered a new computer and you have to either pay for a new account or you can't restore your files. It gets worse, because if you have to restore files to another machine (perhaps because the old one was RMA'd entirely), you can't do that either because it's considered to be a different computer than what is registered to you account.
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That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard, but if it's true, thanks for letting me know. My brother had his apartment broken into a while back and they stole pretty much every piece of tech they could carry, including his laptop. He didn't have anything backed up so now he wants me to help him research an online backup service. I was considering Mozy but now see it would be completely useless. I can just see the conversation with tech support now:

Me: Hi. I'm having a little problem restoring my data. It says the files don't belong to my computer.

Mozy: Is this the computer you used to backup the files?

Me: No, that computer was stolen. I bought another one though and want to recover my files now.

Mozy: I'm sorry, but those files can only be restored to the computer you backed them up from.

Me: But it was stolen . . .

Mozy: Exactly.
 
^ Well fuck mozy.,

Carbonite has no set limit for backup and can be bought for what, 70 a year?
 
I backup my data with a paid dropbox account. Its not a lot of data so its no problem but i guess this wouldn't work for everybody
 
Xee said:
Me: Hi. I'm having a little problem restoring my data. It says the files don't belong to my computer.

Mozy: Is this the computer you used to backup the files?

Me: No, that computer was stolen. I bought another one though and want to recover my files now.

Mozy: I'm sorry, but those files can only be restored to the computer you backed them up from.

Me: But it was stolen . . .

Mozy: Exactly.
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YUP.

That's exactly what I was thinking. One hardware failure, and bam you pay for another account if you want your data.
 
Crashplan is amazing. Have been using it for years and it just plain is awesome.

I am even deploying a PROe server right now...
 
Silverpike said:
FWIW, I did my own little review of the popular Carbonite and Mozy.
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I can tell you with 100% certainty you are wrong in regards to Mozy.

I've done restores to new PC's. Its not a problem. I don't care what you think you read in the TOS it doesn't work that way.

Each account is tied to a serial #, username and password. As long as you have those 3 items, it doesn't matter.

http://docs.mozy.com/docs/en/user-p...html#concept_C660D6A5589E47338FBCE4F1985DE947

If you can't restore to another PC, how can you restore to another platform then?

Exactly, your horrid interpretation of the ToS is basically like the tinfoil hat guys that panic cause Origin says its going to read information about your PC, but Steam can say its going to rape your family and then smear the information on your upper lip and thats fine.
 
stiltner said:
I can tell you with 100% certainty you are wrong in regards to Mozy.

I've done restores to new PC's. Its not a problem. I don't care what you think you read in the TOS it doesn't work that way.
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This was absolutely true as of a year ago. They probably have improved it since then. I know this because all the 3rd party reviewers commented on it as well. Makes sense, since I can't find any old reviews anymore (they have been supplanted by newer ones).


Exactly, your horrid interpretation of the ToS is basically like the tinfoil hat guys that panic cause Origin says its going to read information about your PC, but Steam can say its going to rape your family and then smear the information on your upper lip and thats fine.
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Are you this much of an asshole in real life too?

EDIT: Found it!
http://www.geeked.info/mozy-backup-reinstalling-windows-fail/

Summary: every time Mozy saw a new OS, it invalidated the backups. This is in line with the earlier reports that it did not support associating new content with content previously backed up.
 
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And I back up my files to Google Drive using @max syncup. $5 for 100 Gb and no unlimited options. I don’t believe that unlimited storage is possible as nothing costs no money especially disk space. I have doubts it can go on for ever.
As to back up. Use uncompressed type of storage and you file hierarchy will stay the same.
Best regards.
 
I have used Dropbox for several years now with absolutely no issues. A few GB is all that I'll ever need for cloud storage.
 
According to that privacy link, if you upload something to Google Drive, Google owns that data and can reproduce it for their profit.
 
Crashplan is great!

Out of curiosity, has anyone checked out Logmein Cubbies?

It has unlimited data sync between computers, and 5 gigs in the cloud.
It also allows any folder to be selected to sync, just by right clicking it.
(an advantage over dropbox)

I believe it's still in beta, but I can give invites if people are interested.
 
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