Best $900 Build

All the newly released Athlon64 mobos are socket 939. The 754s have been discontinued and the 939s are the (current) future of the Athlon64 platform - if you wanted that chip, you'd be limiting your upgrade paths and you'd also have to change mobos.

But yeah, it's a pretty good processor, probably beats the Venice at stock speeds since it has a 400 Mhz advantage (and the Athlon 64s aren't bandwidth hungry though s939 provides dual channel).
 
get a 3000+/3200+ venice, mobo, a good graphics card, decent 80 or 120gb hard drive, good 50-100$ case, psu, cd/floppy, and you are set. Venice's overclock well so as long as you can put a decent HS/Fan on it, you can get a free 3700+ or above.
 
i might just stick with what i had b4, is it a good system for that much?
 
what dose the winchester have over the venice for $3 more

and a new DVD Burner



oh and the CHEAPEST place for XP Pro

and that video card,,,how would that fit THIS

ARGH!! this sucks trying to do this, getting the best system possible, for $900 and im not sure how good im doing....
 
what dose the winchester have over the venice for $3 more
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No reason, the Venice is the newer chip, don't worry about price.


The cheapest place to get windows xp....er, yah.


And sure that cpu would be fine, but so would a 3200+ which is way less expensive.
 
CleanSlate said:
Source = ATI

Doom3 = NV

~Adam
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Thats all over pal's, the fastest video card on the planet is green. Isn't the top end where these generalizations come from? Or are they excused now for having no answer? :D Just jumping in the stick contest. 6600GT looks like the best card in it's price range though. Source might be a hair faster on ATi's comparable card, and slower at other stuff.

Now that I'm reading more of the thread whats with all these fancy cpu's for this price range. How are you going to get a 3800+ in this budget. More improtantly, why? Try and get a 6800GT or x800XL class card from the forums if you're going to be stretching the budget.
 
Thats all over pal's, the fastest video card on the planet is green. Isn't the top end where these generalizations come from? Or are they excused now for having no answer? Just jumping in the stick contest. 6600GT looks like the best card in it's price range though. Source might be a hair faster on ATi's comparable card, and slower at other stuff.
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No, ATI in d3d games and Nvidia in opengl that's still how it is. You can't compare the 7800gtx to last gen cards, yes the 7800gtx is the fastest, but there's nothing to compare it to. Take the x800xl and the 6800gt or something and compare. No one is doubting that the 7800gtx is the superior card on the market atm, but something tells me his budget doesn't call for one.
 
Lug read the replies...I think you'll get our generally opinion about the 3800+...
 
Phranq said:
Lug read the replies...I think you'll get our generally opinion about the 3800+...
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you were the only one with the reply tho i thought, wait, i think i just remembered something :mad: sorry guyz

Wait, ya i am right, you are the only one , i remember earlyer talkin about a 3800 that ws the wrong socket but this one is 939
 
Don't get a freaking 3800+ in a $900 build.

Get this X800XL (better than pro):
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=190527

Good choice on the DVD burner. NEC is the most popular these days. If you want a DVD reader: $25
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827131410

For your RAM I'd go with this:
Mushkin SP 1GB $90 (I personally just bought two of these.)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146190
or this:
Crucial Value 1GB $106
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146545

Gah! That mobo is AGP! You DEFINITELY don't want AGP in a new comp. PCI-E is the way to go. The video card I pointed out to you is PCI-E. Now let's get a mobo. $89.
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=110248
I just bought one of these myself. It will be good for OCing.

Now, your proc. It is a waste of money. Get either this 3000+ Venice: $119.95
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=A64-3000BP
(I just got this too.)

or a 3200+ Venice if you can spare the money: $190
http://www.newegg.com/product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103535

total: $259 + $42? (I forget how much the NEC is) + $25 + $90x2=$180 + $89 + $120 = $715. I hope that fits in with your budget after you bought the rest of your stuff.

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Do you need a Case, Power Supply (PSU), Keyboard, Mouse, Speakers, Monitor, or Operating System (OS)?

For PSU I'd go with the Seasonic S12-500 for $105 here:
http://www.case-mod.com/store/seaso...-500-watt-atx-power-supply-p-1579.html?src=fr
I also just bought one of these.
 
^^^^

Listen to the man, he just gave you excellent advice...pretty much what I've been trying to tell ya.
 
I agree, PCIE for new builds, X800XL over pro, definately. And I say try for dual channel 2x256 ram for $100 or one stick of 512 now and buy 512 later if you must but get at least 1gigabyte of ram and make sure you are running dual channel with it.

~Adam
 
Phranq said:
No, ATI in d3d games and Nvidia in opengl that's still how it is. You can't compare the 7800gtx to last gen cards, yes the 7800gtx is the fastest, but there's nothing to compare it to. Take the x800xl and the 6800gt or something and compare. No one is doubting that the 7800gtx is the superior card on the market atm, but something tells me his budget doesn't call for one.
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That's why I say why generalize. A 6600GT is also faster than competing ATi cards even in HL2. It looks like this budget is going up. It said $900 for everything. If ya need to spend a bit more to get a good card in there, most definitely recommended. I just sold my XL to a guy for just 215. Guess I'm too nice.
 
CleanSlate said:
I agree, PCIE for new builds, X800XL over pro, definately. And I say try for dual channel 2x256 ram for $100 or one stick of 512 now and buy 512 later if you must but get at least 1gigabyte of ram and make sure you are running dual channel with it.

~Adam
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NEG on the 2x256, then you just have that shit layin arround when you want to bump up. Just go straight for 1Gig, it's becoming the average amount anyway

will look into tho's parts
 
Russ said:
Don't get a freaking 3800+ in a $900 build.

Get this X800XL (better than pro):
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=190527

Good choice on the DVD burner. NEC is the most popular these days. If you want a DVD reader: $25
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827131410

For your RAM I'd go with this:
Mushkin SP 1GB $90 (I personally just bought two of these.)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146190
or this:
Crucial Value 1GB $106
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146545

Gah! That mobo is AGP! You DEFINITELY don't want AGP in a new comp. PCI-E is the way to go. The video card I pointed out to you is PCI-E. Now let's get a mobo. $89.
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=110248
I just bought one of these myself. It will be good for OCing.

Now, your proc. It is a waste of money. Get either this 3000+ Venice: $119.95
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=A64-3000BP
(I just got this too.)

or a 3200+ Venice if you can spare the money: $190
http://www.newegg.com/product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103535

total: $259 + $42? (I forget how much the NEC is) + $25 + $90x2=$180 + $89 + $120 = $715. I hope that fits in with your budget after you bought the rest of your stuff.

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Do you need a Case, Power Supply (PSU), Keyboard, Mouse, Speakers, Monitor, or Operating System (OS)?

For PSU I'd go with the Seasonic S12-500 for $105 here:
http://www.case-mod.com/store/seaso...-500-watt-atx-power-supply-p-1579.html?src=fr
I also just bought one of these.
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OK well

OK on the Video
I want a DVD Burner , This ONe
I'll take the Crucial
I'll pry go with the 3200 Retail so i don't have to get a HS/F
And as for PSU what do you guys think about the XConnect PSU's? I'v been looking into them for this computer because the retail one is goin out...
 
Well Texus, ATI doesn't have an answer to the 6600gt price/value card really, the x700 pro is bleh. So yah, if that's your price range, that's your card.
 
Phranq said:
I would say nope on 64. Better driver availability on 32 bit windows.
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that is exactly what i figured. then im pretty much ready,,,except yay or nay on XConnect PSU's :D
 
Lugztaz said:
honestly that dosent help cuz i don't know why you wouldn't
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quoted from the power supply forum:

So without Further ado, I present to you the list of Un-reccomended and

Unscrupulous Power Supply Companies

Achieve
Aerocool
Allied
Aspire
Codegen
Coolmax
Demon
Deer
Devanni.
Dynapower
Eagle
InWin
JustPC
Kingwin
L&C
Linkworld
MGE,
Power-Man
Powmax
Power-Up
Raidmax
Thermaltakes (I’m gonna quote Johnny guru here, but personally I would NEVER put another one in my machine)
Turbo
Ultra (yes, the pretty looking ones, they are made by a low-quality Chinese company that starts with "Young". Can't get much more generic than that!!!)
X-superalien
X-treme


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good enuf reason?
I'd say go with the 64 bit windows version... media center isn't really good for third party products (as far as I have heard...)
 
I have recieved everything from newegg and zipzoomfly but i don't even have a tracking number from monarchcomputer.com!!! no wonder shipping is free :mad:
 
ummmmm I think so, but don't quote me on that, it needs to be in the right place...
 
Lugztaz said:
DONE
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So what was the final decision?

My recommendation would have been something like this:
A64 3500+ range
Asus or Abit 939 pin mobo w/ PCIe 16x (maybe SLI capable also, just in case)
$200+ videocard like X800XL or 6800GT
Antec Case with PSU $65 (newegg)
16x DVD (DL) burner $45
 
elite.mafia said:
ummmmm I think so, but don't quote me on that, it needs to be in the right place...
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i believe it can only go in one place, i was just making sure :)
 
i think the extra 4 pins are their to power SLI.... i think....
 
I ordered my mobo from monarch on Sunday morning and it shipped out here with packages from both newegg and ZZF on wednesday. All three were shipped together.

They, and all the other places I ordered from (ewiz.com, case-mod.com, svc.com) were all very promt with sending e-mails about processing, shipping, tracking numbers, etc. So don't knock em before you try em. I'm sure it will show up.

What did you get?
 
What i got

Video Card
Memory
MOBO
Proc
DVD Buner
HDD


Alright, Well i got the system setup and everything(will post pics later) installed XP Pro Done all 100+ Updates except SP2 wich was installing at the time of this post. But the 200 Gig HDD showed up as 127 Gig and when i go into Comp Management and disk management and it showed up as a 127 and another section. What to do?
 
Lugztaz said:
Alright, Well i got the system setup and everything(will post pics later) installed XP Pro Done all 100+ Updates except SP2 wich was installing at the time of this post. But the 200 Gig HDD showed up as 127 Gig and when i go into Comp Management and disk management and it showed up as a 127 and another section. What to do?
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You are experiencing WinXP's 48-bit LBA hard drive size limitation. Happens with all WinXP versions without at least SP1.

This site might be able to help you.
 
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